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bluesbassman

(19,373 posts)
Wed Jul 2, 2014, 05:04 PM Jul 2014

What's your "sincerely held belief"?

And does the practice and application of your "sincerely held belief" extend to interfering with your neighbor's life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness?

As a life long Liberal, I have many "sincerely held beliefs" that serve to guide me in my life, but with the obvious exceptions of sincerely believing that violence, discrimination, racism, sexism, and the like are intolerable to society, I can't think of anything I "sincerely believe" that infringes on the right to pursue a happy, safe, and fulfilling life for another person.

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What's your "sincerely held belief"? (Original Post) bluesbassman Jul 2014 OP
This has been mentioned before, but I believe in "Thou shalt not kill." femmocrat Jul 2014 #1
Are you a vegan? Jackpine Radical Jul 2014 #29
The Hobby Lobby decision was the ultimate in bullsh!tt!ng by 5 Theocratic thugs! blkmusclmachine Jul 2014 #2
That beliefs don't deserve special treatment just because they are "sincerely held" arcane1 Jul 2014 #3
That's a good point, and is something that has troubled me since this decision was handed down. bluesbassman Jul 2014 #4
I'm one of those "loony liberals" that think just because you are a Democratic president, doesn't quinnox Jul 2014 #5
I believe in Waffles. Katashi_itto Jul 2014 #6
I like mine with peanut butter and maple syrup. bluesbassman Jul 2014 #8
ooh, a DUer recently mentioned their mum was a Waffle House waitress Skittles Jul 2014 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author quinnox Jul 2014 #7
That Marvin Hagler beat Ray Leonard AngryAmish Jul 2014 #9
I was at that fight with my dad and brother. bluesbassman Jul 2014 #11
That this will cure most problems. hobbit709 Jul 2014 #10
I have never seen blue bud before chknltl Jul 2014 #13
Variety called Blueberry Haze hobbit709 Jul 2014 #15
Cool, never seen one that color before. chknltl Jul 2014 #17
I believe in reincarnation chknltl Jul 2014 #12
Interesting lot, the Mormons. bluesbassman Jul 2014 #16
I don't know if this applies to most Mormons but... chknltl Jul 2014 #19
My general experience has been that a strong work ethic is common. bluesbassman Jul 2014 #23
I can think of a number sincerely held beliefs BainsBane Jul 2014 #14
Puplic financing for stadiums that primarily benefit monopolistic enterprises bugs me too. bluesbassman Jul 2014 #20
I believe in the Goddess Isis LiberalEsto Jul 2014 #18
I believe I should have a necklace made from the testicles of male Supreme Justices. JEB Jul 2014 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author Arugula Latte Jul 2014 #22
That theocrats deserve summary execution FiveGoodMen Jul 2014 #24
that Carol Burnett is my personal savior libnnc Jul 2014 #25
Well, if Carol is the Savior, Tim is the prophet. bluesbassman Jul 2014 #26
Amen. libnnc Jul 2014 #31
He was a genius, and I'd pay good money to see that monkey dance the Merengue. bluesbassman Jul 2014 #32
I sincerely believe in an ice cold beer on a hot summer afternoon!! madinmaryland Jul 2014 #27
With you on that one! bluesbassman Jul 2014 #30
Giving it some thought, I actually have some BainsBane Jul 2014 #33
I think a lot of Liberals/Progressives feel that way. bluesbassman Jul 2014 #37
One of my sincerely held beliefs is that guns should be banned ecstatic Jul 2014 #34
"Think for yourself, H2O Man Jul 2014 #35
I believe in the Church of Baseball. Gidney N Cloyd Jul 2014 #36

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
1. This has been mentioned before, but I believe in "Thou shalt not kill."
Wed Jul 2, 2014, 05:08 PM
Jul 2014

I do not want my tax money to go toward war, execution, or even promoting hunting. Please don't jump on me, hunters. You are free to believe what you want, as am I.


My sincerely held beliefs are rooted in my faith. I don't expect my beliefs to interfere with others' beliefs, though.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
3. That beliefs don't deserve special treatment just because they are "sincerely held"
Wed Jul 2, 2014, 05:12 PM
Jul 2014

Religious or otherwise.

bluesbassman

(19,373 posts)
4. That's a good point, and is something that has troubled me since this decision was handed down.
Wed Jul 2, 2014, 05:24 PM
Jul 2014

How exactly did the Felonious Five make that determination? Is there a legal definition for what constitutes a "sincerely held belief"? Did the Green family provide affidavits to that effect? Because if they did, they committed perjury.

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
5. I'm one of those "loony liberals" that think just because you are a Democratic president, doesn't
Wed Jul 2, 2014, 05:40 PM
Jul 2014

give you the license to do right wing garbage like spying on citizens in the name of "National Security", or conduct drone attacks that kill innocent women and children as "collateral damage" , its really disgusting to see the excuses and cheer-leading when it comes to right wing garbage like this.


Skittles

(153,160 posts)
28. ooh, a DUer recently mentioned their mum was a Waffle House waitress
Wed Jul 2, 2014, 07:29 PM
Jul 2014

I headed out to a Waffle House at the next opportunity; yes INDEED

Response to bluesbassman (Original post)

chknltl

(10,558 posts)
17. Cool, never seen one that color before.
Wed Jul 2, 2014, 06:38 PM
Jul 2014

I have seen and even grown buds that turn purple and long ago there was one that would be maroon in color when overly mature but never have I seen anything blue like that. Cool link bookmarked to my faves thanks.
Here is something I grew last year: http://analytical360.com/m/expired/134383

chknltl

(10,558 posts)
12. I believe in reincarnation
Wed Jul 2, 2014, 06:11 PM
Jul 2014

The true meaning of life (from my frame of reference) is in the collection of all the experiences that come with the living of each life. In this particular belief, there are no good or bad choices. How you choose to impose or not impose your beliefs on me, how I react, are shared experiences. Trust me when I tell you that my particular odd 'belief' changes nothing as to how I react to my 'experiences'. I accept the necessity for religion but that changes nothing as to how I deal with a couple of overly insistent Latter Day Saints who smugly look at me like I am some kind of idiot when I politely inform them that I am not interested in what they are selling.



bluesbassman

(19,373 posts)
16. Interesting lot, the Mormons.
Wed Jul 2, 2014, 06:38 PM
Jul 2014

I used to work for a company that was owned by, and primarily staffed with Mormons. Lot's of unflattering stories, and I'll just leave it at that. But I also worked for a Mormon when I was in HS detailing used cars. He drank, bet on horses, and was the salt of the earth. Always two sides to every coin.

Thanks for sharing your reincarnation views. My long passed mom held that view, and while it doesn't completely resonate with me, I do not discount it entirely.

chknltl

(10,558 posts)
19. I don't know if this applies to most Mormons but...
Wed Jul 2, 2014, 06:46 PM
Jul 2014

... the two I worked for were the hardest workers I have ever worked with. If I were an employer seeking employees, based on my own experience, seeing 'Mormon' on their application would be definite plus!

bluesbassman

(19,373 posts)
23. My general experience has been that a strong work ethic is common.
Wed Jul 2, 2014, 06:57 PM
Jul 2014

Of course like any other group of people there are exceptions, but working hard was never the problem I had working within their environment.

BainsBane

(53,032 posts)
14. I can think of a number sincerely held beliefs
Wed Jul 2, 2014, 06:29 PM
Jul 2014

that conflict with my federal taxes, foremost among them military spending and corporate welfare. At the state level, my sincerely held beliefs require a refund on the taxes I've had to pay for the infernal Vikings stadium. In fact, I want refunds on all the #&*@* stadiums I've had to pay for.

bluesbassman

(19,373 posts)
20. Puplic financing for stadiums that primarily benefit monopolistic enterprises bugs me too.
Wed Jul 2, 2014, 06:48 PM
Jul 2014

Yes they use them for other events, but the fact is they're primary function is supporting a monopoly.

Response to bluesbassman (Original post)

libnnc

(9,996 posts)
25. that Carol Burnett is my personal savior
Wed Jul 2, 2014, 07:07 PM
Jul 2014

I meditate to her Tarzan yell and end my prayer with an "I'm so glad we had this time together" and a tug on my left ear.

I'm *almost* joking about that. Almost.

madinmaryland

(64,933 posts)
27. I sincerely believe in an ice cold beer on a hot summer afternoon!!
Wed Jul 2, 2014, 07:29 PM
Jul 2014

And friends to share said ice cold beers with!


BainsBane

(53,032 posts)
33. Giving it some thought, I actually have some
Wed Jul 2, 2014, 07:47 PM
Jul 2014

I am politically pro-choide but on a personal level, I am actually pro-life. I oppose abortion AND invitro-fertilization as a matter on my own personal sense of morality. I believe only God/nature has the right to take or create a life. I know it sounds old fashioned, but that's my belief. However, I don't believe the law should reflect my personal beliefs and I don't wish to legislate my own sense of morality. I am strongly pro-choice (which is not the same as pro-abortion, despite what our friends on the right believe). Only a woman herself can make her own medical choices, and I refuse to substitute my own personal morality for the choices of others. When my brother's wife got fertility treatments in order to have their son, I didn't feel compelled to pronounce my own feelings on the subject. I filed that under none of my fucking business, as in not my body and not my choice. The same is true for people I have known who have had abortions. I never felt compelled to project my own views on them because it wasn't my life.

If I don't impose my moral beliefs on those closest to me, why should companies impose theirs on their employees?

bluesbassman

(19,373 posts)
37. I think a lot of Liberals/Progressives feel that way.
Wed Jul 2, 2014, 08:34 PM
Jul 2014

I personally know quite a few. Thanks for sharing that, great comments and this one in particular: "If I don't impose my moral beliefs on those closest to me, why should companies impose theirs on their employees?" Spot on!

ecstatic

(32,704 posts)
34. One of my sincerely held beliefs is that guns should be banned
Wed Jul 2, 2014, 08:10 PM
Jul 2014

Cops' guns included. Look at the news. Gun violence will only get worse going forward. Yes, it will be messy during the first 5 years or so, but it's worth it. At some point, all the criminals will be caught and their guns confiscated. Mexico and Canada will have to do the same for logistical reasons. Does that infringe upon my neighbor's life? Not really, but they'll probably think so for a few years until the day we wake up without any gun deaths.

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,835 posts)
36. I believe in the Church of Baseball.
Wed Jul 2, 2014, 08:27 PM
Jul 2014

I believe in the soul. The cock, the pussy, the small of a woman's back, the hanging curve ball, high fiber, good scotch, that the novels of Susan Sontag are self-indulgent, overrated crap. I believe Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone. I believe there ought to be a constitutional amendment outlawing AstroTurf and the designated hitter. I believe in the sweet spot, soft-core pornography, opening your presents Christmas morning rather than Christmas Eve and I believe in long, slow, deep, soft, wet kisses that last three days.

Brothers and Sisters, can I get an 'Oh my'?

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