Which Democratic consultants are the biggest losers?

[bluestateguy]

If you were making a blacklist of Democratic consultants who should never be allowed near another Democratic campaign again, who would you put on that list?

I'll start:

Mary Beth Cahill
Bob Shrum
Tad Devine
Chris Lehane
Susan Estrich

[rocktivity]

1. I am shocked that James "Sleeping With The Enemy" Carville isn't among the top

one...


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[bluestateguy]

3. Carville may not be likeable, but he's a winner

I have a simple rule: Does he or she win?

If the answer to that is no, I have no use for them.

[rocktivity]

5. And what has Carville won for us lately?

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Between his built-in conflict of interest and his efforts to kneecap the fifty-state strategy because it cuts into his fees, why should he be entrusted with another Dem dime?


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[winter is coming]

2. Mark Penn. n/t

[DURHAM D]

4. Just curious...

Why is Chris Lehane on the list?

Also, add Pat Caddell

[JI7]

9. Pat Caddell hasn't been a Democrat in Years, i remember him trashing Gore during the 2000

election along with the rest of the whores on tv.

[tableturner]

6. I think it's Bob......

I think it's Bob "I won't dignify your swift boat attack on John Kerry with a response" Shrum.

[rusty fender]

7. Joe Trippi

[fujiyama]

8. Mark Penn and Bob Shrum

Those two should never go near another Democratic campaign ever again. With Penn, who knows maybe he'll go the other way. He struck me as the biggest tool.

BTW, didn't Cadel become a republican? He's on Fox now I think. I don't think Lehane is as big a loser as you think. This guy fights. The party needs more like him. He's been credited for making Bush's DWI history public before the '00 election. The reality is sometimes good people get stuck in poorly run campaigns. And sometimes it isn't their fault - often times the candidates themselves just don't do a good job selling themselves or their opposition just faces an incredibly docile media (Bush in '00 is a great example).

Add Donna Brazile to that list. I just cannot stand that woman. Always making excuses for her good friends Condi and Bush. Blech.

[JI7]

10. Joe Trippi

[JI7]

11. so far Mark Penn is the only one that i consider to be a Fraud

who was in it to gain financially for himself from the start and had no care about whether his candidate would win.

with the others i think they really did want their candidate to win and did what they think would help.

[rocktivity]

13. Yes, I remember it well: Penn, like Carville, had a built-in conflict of interest

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His roles as chief political strategist and PR agency CEO collided disastrously when he ran Hillary's 2008 campaign:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5380100

He "asked" to be demoted to a mere pollster for Hillary, then blamed everyone except him afterwards:
http://www.gq.com/blogs/the-q/2008/06/why-she-lost.html

Penn has been doing strategic planning for Microsoft since 2012. May he be out of the political sphere permanently.


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[SoCalDem]

12. Donna whatshername from the Clinton era

Honestly, I don;t know WHY these people are the go-to people.. and of course there's always the smarmy ed Rendell

[MH1]

16. Donna Brazile?

Yeah I thought of her too.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

14. Bill Clinton

[rocktivity]

15. DUzy!

But seriously, folks, I would be remiss in not referring you to one of the best DU posts about Hillary EVER...



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[tritsofme]

17. Shrum is definitely a historic loser.