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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums"...She did."
"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"
johnp3907
(3,730 posts)But she's French.
Response to johnp3907 (Reply #1)
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PosterChild
(1,307 posts)...nothing in french is spelled as it sounds!
Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)IrishAyes
(6,151 posts)beautiful language I know, yet its intricacies make it treacherous. I'd wager 85% of native speakers do so under par. May I suggest you begin with punctuation? I realize you're in 'text mode' but that's only appropriate when texting.
Or did you mean French?
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)L0oniX
(31,493 posts)"She did" truly is past tense.
babylonsister
(171,061 posts)I googled but couldn't find an answer. Thanks!
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)Tanuki
(14,918 posts)L0oniX
(31,493 posts)L0oniX
(31,493 posts)The pedestal went through some reconstruction which required the plaque to be removed and stored until the museum was created.
"Give me your tired, your poor/Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free", is uniquely identified with the Statue of Liberty and is inscribed on a plaque in the museum in its base.[82]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statue_of_Liberty
aggiesal
(8,914 posts)they wanted to make sure their sheeple could still be brainwashed with FOX crap.
Could you imagine what FOX nation would do if they really understood what this plaque meant?
Their heads would figuratively explode.
Baitball Blogger
(46,703 posts)That's what I call staying on point. Don't let the right reframe the message.
eggplant
(3,911 posts)rustydog
(9,186 posts)of taking those words out of context?!!!
napkinz
(17,199 posts)IrishAyes
(6,151 posts)ReRe
(10,597 posts)... I sang that song in choir in high school. As soon as I seen your OP with the words, I sang it. The reason I think the tune always hung with me was that it starts out in sort of a minor chord.
I remember it from music class in grade school.
Miss Murphy was a great teacher, but she never got a buncha 5th graders to make it sound that good.
Iwillnevergiveup
(9,298 posts)Goosebumps! Thanks for posting, evillemike2009, and welcome to DU!
ReRe
(10,597 posts)Cal Carpenter
(4,959 posts)They just don't make harmony like they used to.
Thanks for the clip.
babylonsister
(171,061 posts)And I do likewise; I read the words, and the song is back in my head.
navarth
(5,927 posts)ReRe
(10,597 posts)navarth
(5,927 posts)Dreamer Tatum
(10,926 posts)jeff47
(26,549 posts)Dreamer Tatum
(10,926 posts)100-150 years ago, immigrants came from mostly agrarian societies to not only an agrarian place, but one that was completely unsettled in many places and generally more ready to turn human capital into productivity. In short, there were more places for immigrants to go and prosper on their own. This was critical, because government support of immigrants was very close to zero.
Now we have basically unskilled labor coming across the border to work in an advanced information and service economy that's been settled and in which property rights have been claimed coast to coast.
It's different now. Sorry, them's the facts.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)then it sounds like you haven't spent much time West of the Mississippi, or terribly far inland from the West coast.
Still is. There's lots of government services you can not access with just a basic immigration permit.
Guess what they called the Irish?
Which still needs basic labor. There's a reason we haven't actually stopped "illegal immigration", despite the Republicans screaming about it. Vast swaths of our economy rely on it for labor.
Remember the stories coming out of Mississippi after the state made it much harder to have undocumented workers? Farmers complained massively about crops rotting in the fields because they couldn't find labor.....well, couldn't find labor willing to work for cheap.
The undocumented are already working here. Might as well make it official instead of pretending we don't need them.
Dreamer Tatum
(10,926 posts)Yes, let's give immigrants an acre of land in the desert and wish them luck.
If you think this is the same country it was when people streamed over from Europe 100 years ago, then you
can choose from the following two options to describe where your head is: SAND. YOUR ASS.
I am sorry you don't see that human capital was more fungible back then, but it was.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)In fact, virtually none of the immigrants you cite were. Move here and plop down a farm wrapped up in the 1800s, and that "move West and start a farm" tended to not be immigrants - it was their children. Additionally, the vast majority of the people immigrating in the 1870s to 1930s moved into the cities. They weren't starting farms.
So those Mississippi farmers don't know how to run their own farms? Or should we reject reality since it doesn't fit your model?
Dreamer Tatum
(10,926 posts)The same is generally not true today. Nevermind, though.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)There's enough jobs that millions of people are illegally entering the country in order to take the jobs.
Is the economy booming? Fuck no. But we can absorb these people into the labor market.
treestar
(82,383 posts)IrishAyes
(6,151 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)they would obey the Pope first. All said of them just like they now claim that the current immigrants are "different" because they "won't assimilate." It's amazing how identical the arguments are.
http://projects.vassar.edu/1896/immigration.html
IrishAyes
(6,151 posts)someone once asked me what I liked best about living in L.A. so many years. I said the cultural diversity and how I could meet people from all over the world even w/o traveling! When I mentioned how people used to have block parties where they brought traditional dishes from their country of origin, listeners flipped out and raged, "They shouldn't do that! They should be like us!" It made me think, why in God's name would they want to do that?
treestar
(82,383 posts)in the US - so many different cultures to enjoy. It is really our strength.
IrishAyes
(6,151 posts)I was known to visit those shops on occasion. A major interior design store belonged to a chatty gentleman who'd fled Iran shortly before the Shah. Unfortunately, the best I could do was to buy new wall-2-wall carpet for my condo. Anyway, he told me he always asked his clients why they chose a particular color scheme - mine was a pure plush blue - and I told him it was because I look best in blue. He was stunned and said nobody had ever given him THAT answer before! I've always followed interior design, and that was just my independent conclusion about interior color choices. If I wouldn't wear it, it didn't belong in my house either. Only once, quite recently, did I see that official suggestion in a design forum.
That was another fun thing about L.A. I could find things there that weren't widely available, including fabrics. I've dragged enough of that stuff hither and yon on my moves so that now I don't have to worry about my own house looking like any other, much less in the Midwest. I really prefer oak floors (wall2wall 2nd choice) with the few Oriental rugs I do have, old mahogany, rosewood, or ebony furniture upholstered in Oriental styles, and plain white walls with cloisonne pictures. Except for the Maxfield Parrishes. Well, at least nobody else in the remote areas of the Midwest decorates that way. Certainly not here. They think Victorian painters were all pornographic.
cheapdate
(3,811 posts)As if the previous poster either claimed or implied that they thought "...this is the same country it was when people streamed over from Europe 100 years ago".
Obviously, you mean to imply that immigrants of yesteryear were given "an acre of land". My ass.
defacto7
(13,485 posts)it was 640 acres... plus an adjoining 640 acre parcel for each family member who was over 18 and immigrants were on the front line. That was for a period of time to settle western territories. Yeah, free land but at the cost of native Americans. Now I'm not sure whose side I'm taking in this argument.
Someone feel free to correct me.
cheapdate
(3,811 posts)through Ellis Island in the 1920s and nobody gave him squat. I was responding to "Dreamer Tatum". He was arguing that the country was basically just full-up now, which is preposterous.
cheapdate
(3,811 posts)The United States is no longer a place for immigrants because we've run out of empty space: "In short, there were more places for immigrants to go..." as you put it.
Um, there's plenty of room in the United States. There's plenty of rural land and there's plenty of room in the cities.
The United States absorbed waves of immigrants in the 20th century, my mother's family from Greece among them. They didn't fan out into unsettled places and farm the land. The majority settled in cities to work, start businesses, and start families.
All of your arguments that the United States can't easily absorb new immigrants are complete bunk.
IrishAyes
(6,151 posts)redqueen
(115,103 posts)In_The_Wind
(72,300 posts)world wide wally
(21,742 posts)What would America do?
IrishAyes
(6,151 posts)this is hard to say; but to paraphrase (choke, gag) Churchill, America will always do the right thing after everything else has failed. I hate to admit the SOB was right about anything. Not much else, but credit where credit's due.