"We'd love for you little people to have rights, but..."

[MannyGoldstein]

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"We'd really love for the little people to have rights, but we just can't swing it."

"Sorry!!!"

"But once it's law... we can work together to make it better! Yes, we can!"

It was uplifting to read that the bipartisan TPP will give the developing world a break: The US and other developed countries have backed off their demand that sanctions be immediately imposed on countries that violate worker protections. Instead, there'll be... discussions.

U.S. compromises on labor rights in latest round of TPP negotiation.

Discussions! LOL! "Say, about those children locked in factories for a week at a time... no worries, that class of people were bred for that sort of thing. Could you pass the Grey Poupon? Thanks ever so much."

So microwage countries will be able to drive labor costs even lower, and grab more American jobs. And the rich all over the world make even more money, and everyone else gets @#$%ed even worse.

Yay!

Anyone else sick of this sick abuse of the 99%? Would it be unfair to call this effort sociopathy?

I'm of a mind to get off my fat ass and do something to help stop this awful abuse-in-the-works.

[randys1]

1. If TPP goes thru, that will be it...hopefully it will facilitate a real revolution

[villager]

6. Evidently part of "hope and change" is to make sure it goes through

I guess my definitions for those words were just... different.

[randys1]

7. Cant say I am happy about that, at all...Dont understand it either

[Mnpaul]

10. If the TPP goes through

the Democrats can kiss all hopes for 2016 goodbye. Damn, I hate these dimwit "free traders". They never seem to learn from their failures.

[Jackpine Radical]

12. What failures?

They're vastly richer, we're vastly poorer. Everything is going according to plan.

[MannyGoldstein]

13. Why?

Republicans want it, too.

Only FOUR senators voted against the rich banker that Obama put in charge of these negotiations. You can probably guess which ones, for the most part.

Only four.

[Mnpaul]

17. Ask Al Gore

Another reason he lost.

People are rapidly running out of reasons to vote for Democrats. Passing these anti-labor bills is just another knife in the back of America's workers. Manufacturing now makes up 11% of our GDP.

[MannyGoldstein]

19. Wasn't that totally Ralph Nader's fault?

Nader waived a magic wand of some sort and suddenly Gore lost, I think that's what I've been hearing.

[Mnpaul]

22. yuk yuk

just like the Republicans, the free traders can never admit their failures. They must blame Nader, every other reason points right back at themselves. Just like the mortgage crash. Must blame poor people.

[Uncle Joe]

23. No, that was the corporate media's "War against Gore" as payback for Al's championing the Internet,

along with the state of Florida screwing the people out of their right to vote and have it counted, followed by the felonious five appointing Bush, Nader only played a minor part in the big scheme of things.

Despite all that Gore got half a million+ votes more than Bush, but he could've won in a landslide had the corporate media not sold the American People out by continously slandering and libeling Gore's substantial credibilty while giving Bush a free pass.

That's the price Gore had to pay with our so called "fourth estate" for being the preeminent champion in opening up the Internet to the people. The corporate media wanted to maintain their stranglehold on distributing/disseminating information/propaganda and they saw the writing on the wall as the growing Interent would cost them dearly in that regard, both in power and treasure.

I have to give Nader credit, he did stand in line #214 to get Gore's autograph on his book "An Inconvenient Truth" I don't believe he ever did that for Bush's "Decision Points" so Nader has that going for him.

[Art_from_Ark]

30. As Alex Trebek would say,

"That's it, exactly"

[Uncle Joe]

33. How's the weather in Japan, Art, did you get hit hard by that typhoon/tropical storm?

[Art_from_Ark]

35. Reports of the typhoon's ferocity here

were overblown.

It was more like a spring shower in this part of Japan.

[zeemike]

40. "People are rapidly running out of reasons to vote for Democrats"

Well that could explain why they need the crazy right winers like Cruz and Palin...just look how nuts they are, they tell us...do you want them to win, they ask...better to put a corporatist in there that will change nothing and introduce a few new things to screw us with (but not as much as the other guy) than vote for a crazy.

Triangulation
It's pure political bait
It's keeping you waiting.

[PatrickforO]

43. Here's my guess:

Warren, Sanders, Brown and Merkley

Is that right?

You know, I supported Obama, but his world trade policies SUCK. He seems to be right in bed with the big moneyed interests on everything he's done. Drive labor costs down, export American jobs. So called 'free trade' isn't really free. NAFTA alone cost us nearly a million good jobs that have been replaced by lower wage service jobs.

In the meantime, union busting has continued and Obama hasn't done much at all to help in that area either. However he may personally feel, his official support for organized labor has been lukewarm at best.

And the Affordable Care Act? A plan originated in the 90's by the Heritage Foundation, which in essence is a giant welfare program for the insurance industry. I still have rationed healthcare. How about you?

And the drone policies? Doing everything he can to keep the US on a permanent war footing so the oligarchs can keep those profits flowing.

Seems like he began OK but he's become another servant of the oligarchs.

What we need in the White House and Congress is a new group of populists - people lie Senator Warren, who actually care about the welfare of the American people and try to implement policies that actually HELP us.

[bemildred]

2. Rights cost money see, we don't have enough money. nt

[Octafish]

3. DOW's gotta get back to 17,000!

It's not like Washington can't print money.
They do for their friends.
Ask Goldman Sachs and AIG.
Visit Detroit.

[GeorgeGist]

4. Corporatocracy™ is the New World Order™.

[villager]

5. Michael Ventura: "We Have Been Colonized the Oligarchy"

Good column by Michael Ventura on just how bad it's become:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/101697258

I'll be posting the follow-up to DU soon...

[JDPriestly]

46. Wonderful op-ed. Raymond Chandleresque.

Maybe my favorite author. There is a certain rhythm of modern life that Chandler caught early on. The sort of unfinished edge of it.

[villager]

50. So, like Lovecraft, are you saying Chandler gazed into the abyss...?

Each, in their own way, construing to kill themselves, because of it...

[JDPriestly]

52. Love it, absolutely. It's so LA.

[KamaAina]

8. Who's negotiating this sack of shite? Leona Helmsley??

"the little people", indeed!

[MannyGoldstein]

9. The White House

Trust them, they're doing it to for us little people.

[heaven05]

37. What is your

solution to the corruption in our political system that has bred the negative condition(s) you continuously point out?

[pa28]

11. American labor will be competing against foreign child labor and union busters.

But not to worry. There will be "discussions".

Seriously, why are we even sitting at the table with countries like Brunei that call for the stoning to death of gays and lesbians, and public flogging of women who have had abortions?

This agreement needs to be scrapped, buried and the ground above it salted.

[eridani]

14. O come ye investors, captains of our commerce

Come build your factories in Bangladesh
Come for the people
Peaceful and compliant
O come let us exploit them,
O come let us exploit them,
O come let us exploit them, because we can!

Child in our sweatshops, make designer dresses
So we get richer on your twelve hour days
Who would not hire you
For ten cents an hour?
O come let us exploit them,
O come let us exploit them,
O come let us exploit them, because we can!

See how consumers blinded by low prices
Leaving their consciences come here to buy
Into our pockets
They will pour their dollars
O come let us exploit them,
O come let us exploit them,
O come let us exploit them, because we can!

[MannyGoldstein]

15. This. Is. Perfect.

Thank you!

[daleanime]

42. Nice!

[WillyT]

16. K & R !!!

[840high]

18. kick with anger

[riderinthestorm]

20. This is a truly ugly piece of back room dealing I HATE Obama for.

This really is that bad.

Big K and R

[stupidicus]

21. I've long called it fascism

since it appears to satisfy the definition of it as defined by Mussolini.

It really doesn't matter what you call it, money obviously still rules, and all the others like plutarchy. oligarchy, etc, etc, are equally unflattering as descriptions.

[socialist_n_TN]

24. I just call it capitalism........

But Mussolini's definition of fascism works too.

[stupidicus]

26. lol

I suspect that in the not so distant future it and socialism may trade places in terms of how the two terms/systems are viewed.

I don't see capitalism - much less the con ideology that prefer the unrestrained variety -- surviving the ravaging that AGW is inevitably gonna give it. Most of the mitigating of the damage or preferably, solutions to all of the increased problems it is gonna pose in terms of health, jobs, vital resources like water, etc, etc, etc, and the social disorder that will result worldwide, can avoid the use of what the modern con/rightwinger calls "socialistic" in proportions not contemplated today but in their fevered minds, where it already is.

[woo me with science]

28. Thank you. People are too shy with that word.

Yes, we have fascists in office, pretending to be Republicans and Democrats.

[stupidicus]

31. indeed woo

it has caused me all kinds of attempted grief from righties and lefties alike over the last decade and more, but I ain't exactly the kind of guy who cares about that near (if at all most of the time) as much as I do the obvious effects of improper labeling that I doubtlessly don't have to explain to you.

Cons/repubs just put a more militaristic, and racist, homophobic, sexist, etc, face on it. The good cop/bad cop thing must be preserved, as well as which party has which role in it, so that the bones we get -- some with some real meat on them -- give life to the illusion that the good cops really, really have the best interests of the little guys like us in mind.

That's the how and the why behind for example, inequality having grown as it has under dem and repub admins/control of congress. WHat's the alternative explanation, that the chuckleheads did not know what the likely ramifications of their policy choices and implementation would result in? It's almost like they struggle with seeing and understanding graphs that plot such things or something, no?

That reminds me of the way Bush spent so much time an effort appearing incompetent in both his domestic and foreign policy pursuits, when in the latter it was almost certainly a facade to hide his criminality. WHat for example would Iraq look like today had the Baaths been kept, as well as the standing army at the time? The mess he made in the ME almost totally insures that the security state/MIC as it currently exists and operates will be with us for quite some time in name of the phony War on Terror.

and the beat goes on...

[heaven05]

38. yep

+1000

[betterdemsonly]

25. Oh brother!! n/t

[Android3.14]

27. I'm of a mind to get off my fat ass and do something to help stop this awful abuse-in-the-works.

Inspirational words.

[woo me with science]

29. K&R Inexcusable. Not consistent with being a Democrat or an American.

We are in deep, deep, ugly stuff now. No President or other politician who supports this is working on behalf of the values claimed during election season. We are talking trading away of American sovereignty over protection of workers and subversion of our government "of, by, and for the people" for corporate interests, instead. Add to that the surveillance state and the nascent police state, and what is being done in the USA is nascent fascism, pure and simple.

[questionseverything]

44. when sitting us senators are spied on and justice will not investigate

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014843337

we maybe near the end of the facade

sad k&r

[MannyGoldstein]

51. Thank God the Executive investigated the Executive

and found that the Executive did nothing wrong.

[Doctor_J]

32. We need a page of blue links to explain why this president is the bestest ever

someone? anyone?

[madokie]

34. good luck with that

[Enthusiast]

36. K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations!

Funny how some do not see this as a priority issue. I guess they feel the President has their back on this issue. I'm sure he does. [URL=.html][IMG][/IMG][/URL]

[ReRe]

39. K&R

It's the legalization of slavery, once and for all, Manny. Discussions. Yeah right. They'll name a commission and talk it to death. I am sick and tired of people I don't know behind closed doors making decisions that are going to affect my life and the lives of my descendants.
This is MY life and I want them to get out of it!

[daleanime]

41. K&R....

[blkmusclmachine]

45. Big * at the bottom of the DEM Party Plank reads

"We'll do it only if it's not too difficult to do, AND does not cost us any political capital whatsoever, AND only if the GOP consents in its entirety (because they keep us elected DEMS on a very short leash). Sorry (NOT)
"

[lark]

48. Biggest unanswered question

WTF is Obama pushing this so hard when it's totally anti-American worker and will increase injustice and economic imbalance?

[cantbeserious]

49. The Oligarchs, Corporations And Banks Own And Control The Politicians That Own And Control Us

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