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The Senate is giving more power to the NSA, in secret. Everyone should fight itPoliticians are still trying to hand over your data behind closed doors, under the guise of 'cybersecurity' reform. Have we learned nothing?
One of the most underrated benefits of Edward Snowden's leaks was how they forced the US Congress to shelve the dangerous, privacy-destroying legislation then known as Cispa that so many politicians had been so eager to pass under the guise of "cybersecurity". Now a version of the bill is back, and apparently its authors want to keep you in the dark about it for as long as possible.
Now it's called the Cybersecurity Information Sharing Act (Cisa), and it is a nightmare for civil liberties. Indeed, it's unclear how this kind of law would even improve cybersecurity. The bill was marked up and modified by the Senate intelligence committee in complete secrecy this week, and only afterward was the public allowed to see many of the provisions passed under its name.
Cisa is what Senator Dianne Feinstein, the bill's chief backer and the chair of the committee, calls an "information-sharing" law that's supposed to help the government and tech and telecom companies better hand information back and forth to the government about cyberthreat data, such as malware. But in reality, it is written so broadly it would allow companies to hand over huge swaths of your data including emails and other communications records to the government with no legal process whatsoever. It would hand intelligence agencies another legal authority to potentially secretly re-interpret and exploit in private to carry out even more surveillance on the American public and citizens around the world.
Under the new provisions, your data can get handed over by the tech companies and others to the Department of Homeland Security (not exactly a civil liberties haven itself), but then it can be passed along to the nation's intelligence agencies including the NSA. And even if you find out a company violated your privacy by handing over personal information it shouldnt have, it would have immunity from lawsuits as long as it acted in "good faith". It could amount to what many are calling a backdoor wiretap, where your personal information could end up being used for all sorts of purposes that have nothing to do with cybersecurity.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jul/12/senate-nsa-secret-cybersecurity-information-sharing-act
marmar
(77,080 posts)nt
Rod Beauvex
(564 posts)The kind of homegrown terrorists that might get upset about the government/corporations/rich people abusing them.
Uncle Joe
(58,361 posts)They believe, the only way to keep the lid on the pot when it all hits the fan, is to devolve into a full blown police state, a built up wall between us and Mexico, the promotion of corporate supremacy over the people, for profit prisons, militarized police, the "War on Terror;" which by definition can have no end, the NSA's total awareness of everything under the sun and subsequent flushing down the toilet of the Fourth Amendment; all make for laying the yellow brick road to perdition.
questionseverything
(9,654 posts)you maybe correct
orpupilofnature57
(15,472 posts)antiquie
(4,299 posts)The text of the Cybersecurity Information Sharing Act, which passed 12-3, has not been released to the public yet. Committee chairwoman and the bill's co-author Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) trumpeted its passage in a statement.
"Cyber-attacks present the greatest threat to our national and economic security today, and the magnitude of the threat is growing," she said. "Every week we hear about the theft of personal information from retailers and trade secrets from innovative businesses, as well as ongoing efforts by foreign nations to hack government networks."
Feinstein and Saxby Chambliss (R-Ga.), the bill's co-author and committee vice-chairman, said that the bill is an important piece of anti-terrorism legislation. Chambliss said, "The legislation passed out of committee today is a strong, bipartisan bill that encourages the private sector and the government to share information voluntarily about these threats, without fear of frivolous lawsuits and without unnecessary bureaucratic obstacles."
Feinstein said that the bill would require the director of national intelligence to share more classified and unclassified threat information with businesses than it currently does. It states that the sharing of "cyber threat information" is voluntary and that "appropriate measures" must be taken to prevent the sharing of personal identifying data, including oversight by the Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board.
Without the actual language of the bill, it's hard to determine which specific problems the bill is attempting to remedy. Electronic Frontier Foundation attorney Mark Jaycox told CNET that Executive Order 13636 authorizes "a tremendous amount of sharing" between the government and businesses and between companies through their publication of threats and disclosure lists.
http://www.cnet.com/news/senate-panel-approves-data-sharing-cybersecurity-bill/
This Californian believes it is way past time for Senator Feinstein to retire.
Romulox
(25,960 posts)...oh...
orpupilofnature57
(15,472 posts)hootinholler
(26,449 posts)nashville_brook
(20,958 posts)questionseverything
(9,654 posts)to explain how this is a great idea that will stop every bad thing possible
and to explain how living like an animal in a cage, being watched 24/7 is actually a grand existence!!!!
Aerows
(39,961 posts)LOL.
questionseverything
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littlemissmartypants
(22,656 posts)littlemissmartypants
(22,656 posts)rickyhall
(4,889 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,361 posts)Thanks for the thread, kpete.