If people choose to take medicine for their diabetes,

[edhopper]

Shouldn't they pay for it themselves. And what about controlling chloresteral, can't they just eat less fat. If they want to take medicine for it why should an employer get the bill.
Why should employers support lifestyles.


Yes, it's about birth control.

[MattBaggins]

1. If old men can't get it up anymore that is God's will

He doesn't want them diddling anymore and I resent paying or their Viagra.

[edhopper]

4. If ever there was a drug that should be considered

Elective, that's it.
But I guess God likes hard men and abstinent women.

[MattBaggins]

10. I was being facetious

I think both should be covered.

As diabetic who enjoys intimacy with my wife I will most likely be eyeing the little blue pill in the future.

I know Viagra is a drug to hate and ridicule, but many people need it.

[edhopper]

11. I don't think Viagra shouldn't be covered

I was saying if people claim birth control is elective, how could they not say Viagra is thesame., or more so.

[MattBaggins]

14. I agree with you

I just wanted to make it clear that I am not really one of those people that thinks men who need Viagra should be ridiculed.

[edhopper]

15. Gotcha.

[HeiressofBickworth]

2. And, likewise

if men chose to take Viagra for their limp dicks, shouldn't they pay for it themselves? Why should employers support their lifestyles?

So, shouldn't men and women be treated equally?

[RKP5637]

6. Minor update: "Why should employers support their lifestyles?" changed to:

"Why should employers support their limp dicks?"

[JEFF9K]

3. I wonder if the owners of Hobby Lobby all have 25 kids. I'm guessing not.

And do they pay their employees enough to support that many kids? Or give them that much maternal leave?

[RKP5637]

5. Why can't they just pray it all away?

[NutmegYankee]

7. Not sure how eating fat affects blood pressure.

Some people just have high blood pressure via genetics. Please don't try to turn this into "I'm paying for fat people to be fat" because many of them have valid health causes of obesity. It's not as simple as diet and exercise.

[edhopper]

8. I meant

Chloresterol.
No I wasn't. It was sarcasm to point out that birth control should obviously be covered as these illnesses are.

[NutmegYankee]

12. I think the fact that nearly all plans cover Viagra is the most hypocritical aspect.

I'm with you on the Hobby Lobby bullshit decision.

[madville]

9. In a perfect world

We would all just pay out-of-pocket for everything and not have to rely on an employer's health plan because medical care would actually be affordable. Crazy, right?

[edhopper]

13. OR

Universal from Uncle Sam.
What a concept!

[madville]

16. Maybe the VA could run it :)

I kid, I kid, that would be awesome if everyone was covered at no cost.

[edhopper]

17. Of course there would be a cost

Though similar to Medicare or other national plans.

[madville]

18. I have federal insurance through my job

Premium is $9600 a year, I only have to pay $2400 of that though with a $7,000 deductible. I could pay $4800 if the premium and have a $3500 deductible but it's about a wash.

I think my 91yo grandma's Medicare supplement/prescription premium is about $250 a month.

Best I've ever had it is when I and the family were on TRICARE through the military, that program costs DOD a fortune but is awesome for those enrolled.

[edhopper]

19. And what would your gram's premium be

If GWB didn't make Part D a give away to the Drug Companies?
We'd have typo pay for it somehow, but their are plenty of plans around the weorldf to copy.

[Prophet 451]

20. Agree entirely

Unsurprisingly, there's now a Catholic organisation trying to get cert to bring a SCOTUS case saying they can say no female employee may have BC even if they pay for it themselves. The floodgates this has opened effectively mean that, if you can claim it's part of your religion, you can now opt-out of most laws.

One more reason I'm glad of the NHS. BC is free from even the usual small charge for filling a prescription on the NHS for teh simple reason that paying for BC is cheaper than paying for maternity leave, abortions and so on. At least, until the bastard Tories finish destroying the NHS anyway.