"Donetsk separatist boss Strelkov, Kremlin's proxy in war, says he ordered shootdown"

[MohRokTah]

From a Sam Stein Tweet (take with appropriate grains of salt):

MT @strobetalbott: Donetsk separatist boss Strelkov, Kremlin's proxy in war, says he ordered shootdown

Twitter Link

This tweet went out as the aircraft was falling from the sky.

If true, everything is about to change with the Ukrainian situation.

[xchrom]

1. du rec.

[geek tragedy]

2. Russia is a state sponsor of terrorism

much moreso than Iran. Time for some real sanctions on that rogue state.

[hrmjustin]

3. This is just so sad.

[MohRokTah]

4. If true, there can be no doubt that Russia has supplied separatists with...

highly sophisticated platform based surface to air missiles, such as the SA-17 Buk system.

[reorg]

7. Yes, there can be doubt

DONETSK, June 29, /ITAR-TASS/. Self-defence forces of the Donetsk People’s Republic have taken control over a missile defence army unit equipped with Buk missile defence systems, the press service of the Donetsk People’s Republic told Itar-Tass on Sunday.

http://en.itar-tass.com/world/738262

[MohRokTah]

12. Thanks for that.

Much appreciated.

[countryjake]

5. Just heard this a little bit ago on NBC...

that Strelkov had immediately claimed responsibility.

I wonder what the world would be like if the arms-producers, the weapons suppliers, the sources of such missiles and guns could be held responsible for the many "mistaken" deaths such as the ones we've seen this week?

They're saying that the wreckage of flight MH17 is spread out over nine miles, a very wide area.

That jet, Malaysia Airlines MH17 (also identified as Royal Dutch Airlines flight KLM KL 4103) flying from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur may have had 23 American citizens aboard. Two hundred ninety-five innocent people, killed in a flash.

[countryjake]

6. Here's another interesting report from TASS this morning...

Donetsk People’s Republic militia downs another Ukraine’s An-26 plane — eyewitnesses July 17, 20:01

http://en.itar-tass.com/world/741164

DONETSK, July 17. /ITAR-TASS/. Militiamen of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR) brought down a military transport Antonov-26 (An-26) plane of the Ukrainian Air Force on the outskirts of the town of Torez, eyewitnesses said.

A missile hit the An-26, it fell on the ground and caught blaze, they said.

On July 14, militiamen of the self-proclaimed Luhansk People’s Republic downed another An-26 of the Ukrainian Air Force.

[GusBob]

8. part of the translation I saw

Said "no civilians suffered" before they knew it
was a passanger plane. Now there are body parts everywhere

Putin and strelkov are now war criminals

[countryjake]

9. Is there a link to the translation of that tweet?

This is all I've seen, but the post gave no link to the source of his translation.

Report from Strelkov, Igor' Ivanovich ("Commendant" of rebel forces based in Donets'k)
17 JUL 2014 17:50. Communique from the insurgency.


In the Torez region we (or "they&quot just shot down an An-26 plane, it's someplace past the "Progress" mine.
We (or "they&quot warned them not to fly in "our sky."
And here's video confirmation about the next "bird fall".
The bird fell behind a pit heap, residential area wasn't struck.
Civilians did not suffer.

And there is also information about a second downed plane, probably an Su."

[GusBob]

10. idk thats the same translation I saw at daily beast

I guess Sam Stein has been following the posts

[countryjake]

13. I've now found the Google cache of the original tweet...

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?hl=en&q=cache%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fvk.com%2Fwall-57424472_7256

The translation I can do on that cache matches the one that was posted earlier.

[BlueCheese]

11. Occam's Razor...

... certainly suggests that these separatists are the ones responsible for bringing down this flight.

They will have a lot to answer for if this is confirmed.

[roamer65]

14. If true, war is coming.