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Jeff In Milwaukee

(13,992 posts)
Thu Jul 17, 2014, 01:02 PM Jul 2014

YEEE-HAWWWW!!! Let the baseless speculation begin!!!

Here's my advice. Shut off your TV and get off the internet for the next 24 hours.

What you're about to hear is another news cycle dominated by people who have no fucking clue what they're talking about, but they're not about to let a little detail like that keep them from talking.

Seriously. Wait.

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YEEE-HAWWWW!!! Let the baseless speculation begin!!! (Original Post) Jeff In Milwaukee Jul 2014 OP
Evidence is kryptonite to the speculators, which is why the last Malaysian tragedy had such legs in Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #1
It happens every time... Jeff In Milwaukee Jul 2014 #3
I remember when the USS Vincennes Jenoch Jul 2014 #50
Everybody is an expert on all things when it comes to tragedy. liberal N proud Jul 2014 #2
Well...I've actually FLOWN IN AN AIRPLANE before... Jeff In Milwaukee Jul 2014 #6
HEY! I can google stuff… I'm an expert. KittyWampus Jul 2014 #26
Like this... Jeff In Milwaukee Jul 2014 #29
Me too libodem Jul 2014 #30
John McGramps is off and running malaise Jul 2014 #4
Careful LordGlenconner Jul 2014 #5
I certainly hope not, but with this incident and the escalating violence in Gaza, Syria and Iraq Maedhros Jul 2014 #36
So it's the 'What are your plans for nuclear war with Russia, Mr. Obama?' thing again, huh: freshwest Jul 2014 #55
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jul 2014 #7
Probably not... Jeff In Milwaukee Jul 2014 #13
Wish I could Rec this a hundred times. Iggo Jul 2014 #8
You can. RufusTFirefly Jul 2014 #37
. Iggo Jul 2014 #46
It's true. LisaLynne Jul 2014 #9
What was once Gossip is now News. My condolences to the families and friends whom lost loved ones Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #10
I will be sure to avoid all speculation from RT, the propaganda outlet of the perpetrators. conservaphobe Jul 2014 #11
Exhibit A. n/t Comrade Grumpy Jul 2014 #38
Which story? underpants Jul 2014 #12
How do you know there is baseless speculation? Renew Deal Jul 2014 #14
There is ALWAYS baseless speculation... Jeff In Milwaukee Jul 2014 #16
Because we don't have any more: freshwest Jul 2014 #56
I shut off TV "news" a long time ago. Contrary1 Jul 2014 #15
Me, too NJCher Jul 2014 #47
I have it on double super secret background the mysterious Siberian crater and.... Brother Buzz Jul 2014 #17
How could the NOT be connected? Jeff In Milwaukee Jul 2014 #18
I hope CNN kept their model airplanes handy. ToxMarz Jul 2014 #19
HAha..Wolf's keeping them under his pillow. misterhighwasted Jul 2014 #34
. libodem Jul 2014 #31
What country has lots of oil?!? RedSpartan Jul 2014 #20
I don't know how he did it... Jeff In Milwaukee Jul 2014 #21
And, right behind it, the endless criticism of it!! PeaceNikki Jul 2014 #22
Nope. I'm getting out in front of this. Jeff In Milwaukee Jul 2014 #24
this is why I'm glad I unplugged from cable n/t RainDog Jul 2014 #23
What TV? littlemissmartypants Jul 2014 #25
You know, the TELEVISION Jeff In Milwaukee Jul 2014 #27
Baseless speculation I can deal with... brooklynite Jul 2014 #28
Yup. There is going to be a bit of it today. Agschmid Jul 2014 #35
So far: they were trying to shoot down Putin. joshcryer Jul 2014 #41
I dunno... Jeff In Milwaukee Jul 2014 #42
Go to Ask-The-Pilot-dot-com. . .in a day or 2. . . DinahMoeHum Jul 2014 #32
Good idea libodem Jul 2014 #33
No kidding. Warpy Jul 2014 #39
Good points all! hedgehog Jul 2014 #40
SPECULATION IS NOT NEWS. ITS JUST BLATHER. pansypoo53219 Jul 2014 #43
The only comment this non-expert has is matt819 Jul 2014 #44
Well, some say, "Speculation is better than anecdotal evidence!' rock Jul 2014 #45
In war, truth is the first casualty. Aeschylus Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2014 #48
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jul 2014 #49
Naw, I'll keep watching TCM and other entertainment fare. Warpy Jul 2014 #51
My TV is almost always tuned to Roku anymore tularetom Jul 2014 #52
You know Obama did it! L0oniX Jul 2014 #53
Can't wait for the CNN 24/7 Plane-A-Palooza. Initech Jul 2014 #54

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
1. Evidence is kryptonite to the speculators, which is why the last Malaysian tragedy had such legs in
Thu Jul 17, 2014, 01:06 PM
Jul 2014

the vast world of speculation.

Remember the speculation in the Iran Air commercial jetliner shot down by an American navy cruiser missile? The speculation at first was Iran did it.......

Jeff In Milwaukee

(13,992 posts)
3. It happens every time...
Thu Jul 17, 2014, 01:07 PM
Jul 2014

Boston Bombing had suspects in custody....what? A whole 48 hours before the suspects were actually in custody?

They're just spreading rumors.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
50. I remember when the USS Vincennes
Thu Jul 17, 2014, 09:11 PM
Jul 2014

shot down that Iranian airliner by mistake. I don't recall anyone speculating that Iran shot down their own airliner.

Jeff In Milwaukee

(13,992 posts)
6. Well...I've actually FLOWN IN AN AIRPLANE before...
Thu Jul 17, 2014, 01:10 PM
Jul 2014

So, you know. You should pay attention to me.

I was also AWESOME at the old "Missile Command" video game. So there's that...

 

LordGlenconner

(1,348 posts)
5. Careful
Thu Jul 17, 2014, 01:08 PM
Jul 2014

You'll be admonished for being "reasonable". I was just castigated in another thread for daring to say that this wouldn't lead to the next world war.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
36. I certainly hope not, but with this incident and the escalating violence in Gaza, Syria and Iraq
Thu Jul 17, 2014, 02:39 PM
Jul 2014

all sorts of unintended consequences are possible.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
55. So it's the 'What are your plans for nuclear war with Russia, Mr. Obama?' thing again, huh:
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 03:06 AM
Jul 2014


http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024582939

War is almost like an aphrodisiac for some. I think the chips will fall where they should and we don't have to lift a finger. Those who own this... well, they own it. Sorry you were given a bad time. I got tired of trying to calm people the last few times we did not go to war as they thought.

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Jeff In Milwaukee

(13,992 posts)
13. Probably not...
Thu Jul 17, 2014, 01:18 PM
Jul 2014

But a lot of the more ridiculous rumors who have been purged by then.

...and now you've made me want to watch "Airplane!" again. Darn it!

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
37. You can.
Thu Jul 17, 2014, 02:47 PM
Jul 2014


Mayor's wife: I wish there was a way I could vote for you a hundred times.
Bob Roberts: There is....Just kidding!

LisaLynne

(14,554 posts)
9. It's true.
Thu Jul 17, 2014, 01:13 PM
Jul 2014

I do understand the desire to know what's going on, but we just can't know that right now. No one can.

Tuesday Afternoon

(56,912 posts)
10. What was once Gossip is now News. My condolences to the families and friends whom lost loved ones
Thu Jul 17, 2014, 01:16 PM
Jul 2014

in this tragedy whatever the catalyst/cause.

 

conservaphobe

(1,284 posts)
11. I will be sure to avoid all speculation from RT, the propaganda outlet of the perpetrators.
Thu Jul 17, 2014, 01:16 PM
Jul 2014

Thanks for reminding me.

Jeff In Milwaukee

(13,992 posts)
16. There is ALWAYS baseless speculation...
Thu Jul 17, 2014, 01:21 PM
Jul 2014

It's a half a planet away. Crews are probably only just now arriving on the scene.

Contrary1

(12,629 posts)
15. I shut off TV "news" a long time ago.
Thu Jul 17, 2014, 01:20 PM
Jul 2014

I had to search to find what this post was in reference to. Much better on the blood pressure this way.

NJCher

(35,670 posts)
47. Me, too
Thu Jul 17, 2014, 04:06 PM
Jul 2014

It took reading a few posts to figure it out. OP, kindly remember some of us ignore the TV, so give us a little context.

Thank you.


Cher

Brother Buzz

(36,434 posts)
17. I have it on double super secret background the mysterious Siberian crater and....
Thu Jul 17, 2014, 01:24 PM
Jul 2014

the downing of Malaysian flight MH17 are connected.

Jeff In Milwaukee

(13,992 posts)
27. You know, the TELEVISION
Thu Jul 17, 2014, 01:57 PM
Jul 2014

Where you press a button and there's this show all about a container full of food turning slowly in a circle...

Wait. That's the microwave. Never mind.

joshcryer

(62,270 posts)
41. So far: they were trying to shoot down Putin.
Thu Jul 17, 2014, 02:56 PM
Jul 2014

Ukraine did it as a false flag by sending SAMs to Donesk to shoot it down. Ukraine jets were following the plane and shot it down. The plane actually crashed in the west and they're saying it's in the east to blame the separatists.

DinahMoeHum

(21,788 posts)
32. Go to Ask-The-Pilot-dot-com. . .in a day or 2. . .
Thu Jul 17, 2014, 02:08 PM
Jul 2014
http://www.askthepilot.com/

Patrick Smith doesn't jump to conclusions and he has open contempt for conspiracy mongers.

He's been dissed and dismissed several times by the CNN people - they'd have him in for an interview, but somehow, his segment would end up on the cutting room floor. Not sensationalist enough for them.

libodem

(19,288 posts)
33. Good idea
Thu Jul 17, 2014, 02:12 PM
Jul 2014

I watch some real crap. Reruns are the best of what I see.

It couldn't hurt to leave it off. I'm sure we are about to enter another cycle of speculation, opinion and outright lying.

Lead around by the nose as if we were bulls with rings through our noses. That ring is the fucking tv.

As an 8 year old I remember being told that the Soviets were not allowed to hear real world news. They received propaganda approved by the government. We were shown an accompanying photograph of a group of peasants, crowded around a power pole with a speaker wired to it. I felt so sorry for the sad proletariat.

We could NEVER do that in America.

Warpy

(111,261 posts)
39. No kidding.
Thu Jul 17, 2014, 02:50 PM
Jul 2014

The last thing I need in my life is a bunch of blow dried bobbleheads who don't know anything more than I do try to gin up rage and fear so they can deliver more bodies to corporate sponsors.

There is a good reason I stopped watching any of it.

rock

(13,218 posts)
45. Well, some say, "Speculation is better than anecdotal evidence!'
Thu Jul 17, 2014, 03:25 PM
Jul 2014

Since anecdotal evidence just barely beats out lying, they could be right.

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Warpy

(111,261 posts)
51. Naw, I'll keep watching TCM and other entertainment fare.
Thu Jul 17, 2014, 09:16 PM
Jul 2014

I will not bother with the next 72 hours (at least) of bafflegab, verbal diarrhea from blow dried spokesmodels who know even less than I do.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
52. My TV is almost always tuned to Roku anymore
Thu Jul 17, 2014, 09:28 PM
Jul 2014

Any news I get is usually from DU anyway.

If I didn't have a wife I wouldn't have cable.

Well, that isn't really true, I watched all but one of the World Cup matches. I could not have done it without cable.

Initech

(100,076 posts)
54. Can't wait for the CNN 24/7 Plane-A-Palooza.
Thu Jul 17, 2014, 09:36 PM
Jul 2014

Not that I'm making fun of the tragedy (and you can rest assured I'm not before anyone accuses me of doing so ), but CNN completely humiliated themselves with the coverage of flight 370, this one probably won't end well either. Never the less, I've got plenty of butter if anyone wants some.

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