The European head of Malaysia Airlines has announced nationalities of some of the passengers

[herding cats]

Among the other nationalities on board were 154 Dutch, 27 Australians, 23 Malaysians, 11 Indonesians, six Britons, four Germans, four Belgians, three from the Philippines and one Canadian.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/17/malaysia-airlines-plane-crashes-ukraine-live#block-53c83451e4b01dcef5b4b592

No mention of Americans yet.

May they all RIP.

[geek tragedy]

1. so the terrorists killed citizens of at least 5 NATO members.

not counting the US.

their time is over.

[Warpy]

3. Both sides initially claimed it

Now that they know it was a civilian jet and that 295 people were murdered, both sides are denying it.

Funny how that works.

"Terrorists" generally don't have access to the sophisticated missiles it takes to knock a jetliner at altitude out of the sky.

It was one government or the other.

[geek tragedy]

4. No, both sides did not claim it. Only the terrorists did.

The Ukraine government doesn't shoot at planes there, because it owns all of the military aircraft there. And it certainly never claimed it shot that plane down.

And the terrorists were known to be in possession of the Buk missiles that could have knocked that plane down.

The US slapped sanctions on Putin because he was funneling weapons to the terrorists.

[onenote]

5. Can you back that up? Because I haven't seen anything

that indicates the Ukraine government claimed to have shot down anything.

[Warpy]

7. It was on the BBC early today

The story was updated five hours ago to say all sides denied it.

There is a pretty good series of videos at http://www.bbc.com/news/world-28354787

One thing I think we can say for certain is that if it was the rebels, they were supplied by China, the US or Russia. It was that sophisticated. Shoulder mounted RPGs wouldn't hit a plane at altitude.

[geek tragedy]

8. both sides denied it, but only one side ever claimed 'credit' for doing it nt

[onenote]

9. running log of stories on BBC

Not once is there any indication that the Ukraine initially claimed credit. You should correct your post.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-28354787

[Cha]

12. "Putin's missile"..

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Course ol Putin claims it Ukraine's fault because it happen there.

[Cha]

11. No "both sides" didn't claim it. The pro Russian rebels claimed it when they thought it was

military.

[IronGate]

13. Both sides have not claimed it,

Ukraine has steadfastly denied they had anything to do with the missile attack, and the pro Russian rebels have claimed responsibility for it when they thought they shot down a AN-26 military transport plane.

[joshcryer]

15. Ukraine never claimed it, don't make shit up.

Why the fuck would Ukraine claim downing of a jet or airliner? The rebels don't have them. And they damn sure wouldn't shoot down a Russian plane (which have made incursions dozens of times into Ukraine over the months).

[snagglepuss]

2. Daily Mail reporting that 10 Americans were on board.

[mylye2222]

6. French foreign minister Fabius said maybe 6 French citizen too...

If Americans also, that would mean 7 NATO countries had citizens who died....

[Cha]

10. Mahalo herding cats~ :( 23 Americans and 3 babies were reported aboard..

http://www.ibtimes.com/mh17-crash-23-americans-killed-malaysia-airlines-plane-ukraine-reports-say-1631672

[herding cats]

14. I'd heard rumors as to that number.

I suspected it would be true, but that doesn't make it easier to bear. My heart is with all their loved ones.

Peace for them.