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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTwo teen girls film themselves torturing a tortoise. Police are considering criminal charges.
The duo is being investigated after they uploaded the sickening footage online.
It begins with them lighting the threatened gopher tortoise on fire before throwing it on the ground and crushing it underfoot.
"Burn baby, burn baby. Now you're scared of us, huh?" says one of the animal abusers.
As they cackle with laughter, the critter then dies from its horrific injuries.
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Officers are now working with the State Attorney's Office to determine what charges will be filed, and whether the pair will be considered as juveniles or adults.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/fla-teens-torture-kill-tortoise-face-charges-article-1.1871931
JI7
(89,248 posts)3auld6phart
(1,046 posts)We can only hope that those two never breed. If they have children, you can rest assured the kids will be beaten and neglected.
Tetris_Iguana
(501 posts)And throw away the key as far as I'm concerned.
Such cruel behavior at a young age tends to be an incurable case of congenital psychopathy.
I'm going to hug my tortoise extra right tonight just thinking about this.
House of Roberts
(5,168 posts)but that page refuses to release itself to my computer so I can view it. I had to close it.
Is this another 'Cult of Slender Man' sacrifice?
cvoogt
(949 posts)/nt
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lunasun
(21,646 posts)Hope charges are filed
Kaleva
(36,295 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)is just pure meanness. Ugly, ugly behavior.
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)It always seems to be the reason for all bullying and lashing out.
Wolf Frankula
(3,600 posts)Look Out, He can do it
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Aerows
(39,961 posts)cruelty. Tortoises are long lived and gentle creatures.
Why are people so ugly to other living souls?
rpannier
(24,329 posts)The girls (or at least one) uploaded it on their facebook page.
That presumably means it was under her name
Should the authorities be allowed to release their names
If she stood on the street and yelled "My name is _____. I killed a turtle." Why keep her name anonymous.
This is pretty much what she did by posting it on her account
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)markpkessinger
(8,395 posts)rpannier
(24,329 posts)It's complicated by the crime
They are exploring whether this is better handled at the state or federal level since the turtle is a threatened species
If they decide it's also a federal issue, they might turn it over to the feds
Some cases are easier for the feds to win than the state
DesertDiamond
(1,616 posts)things that are that vicious and heartless.
All I can say is that things are getting darker, so that means the dawn is near. Coming soon: World Peace. I hold on to that thought when I read things like this.
tblue
(16,350 posts)Jenoch
(7,720 posts)MoonchildCA
(1,301 posts)Whether endangered or not, it's animal cruelty. Prosecute them to the fullest.
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)If you pick on a defenseless turtle, what else will you try it out on?
Yes! Anyone totally lacking compassion should be sterilized.
Cruelty is often passed down and it needs to stop.
GreatCaesarsGhost
(8,584 posts)I seem to remember a certain guy who blew up frogs.
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)Sunlei
(22,651 posts)dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)LeftishBrit
(41,205 posts)Even if it were a non-endangered species, it is sadistic behaviour.
Those who abuse animals will generally abuse people as well.
BainsBane
(53,032 posts)Duppers
(28,120 posts)Thanks for stating truth.
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catbyte
(34,376 posts)OMFG. Throw both their sick asses in jail.
mucifer
(23,538 posts)pigs spending their lives so confined they can't turn around in their own pens.
Even if you choose to ignore it, animals are tortured by the millions.
That is all.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)Pleanty of video out there showing how it's done, field dressing, skinning, bitchering in the field, etc. I wish I could get a free-range pig.
mucifer
(23,538 posts)grocery store and fast food factory farmed food.
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)They're teenagers. They're old enough to know right from wrong. They're old enough to have suffered the horrible pain of a burn or two. They're old enough to know they are torturing a defenseless animal.
Throw them in jail and throw away the fucking key.
Poor, poor tortoise....
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)Animals. I don't get it.
trumad
(41,692 posts)let alone the cruelest thing you can possibly do.
Uploading it to the net so everyone can see....yep... they thought it was just fine.
surrealAmerican
(11,360 posts)What kind of world does a kid grow up where this is something to brag about?
trumad
(41,692 posts)that's what hit me with this incident. No thought process to what others would think of this.
Hey---if we upload this to let everyone see it... would they get upset? Could we get in trouble?
Unreal.
get the red out
(13,462 posts)Once they reach this level I want them to be seriously punished. I have zero sympathy for things like these girls.
MH1
(17,600 posts)Kids are being raised everyday in ways that teach them that something like this is something to brag about.
Ugh, ugh, ugh.
And still some people want to force others against their will to become parents. Sheesh, we ought to learn how to raise the kids that are already being born before we force more of them into the world.
Agony
(2,605 posts)they start holding police officers who blow away family pets during raids accountable for wanton acts of cruelty.
Otherwise there is a mountain of hypocrisy when it comes to justice for animal abuse...
Civilization should be judged by its treatment of animals.
Clearly these girls need help.
RKP5637
(67,107 posts)of time IMO until they repeat this behavior or similar on other animals and/or humans. ... setting fire to the homeless, for example, comes to mind as other sickos have done.
Also, IMO, they should be considered as adults. Maybe in generations past there was a distinction, too often crimes by youth are so hideous IMO they should be treated as adults. I know about brain development, etc., but WTF, eventually the acknowledgment has to be accepted that some crimes are so hideous there is no distinction between juveniles or adults IMO.
AngryOldDem
(14,061 posts)And I agree -- they knew they were torturing this turtle and what the outcome was going to be, and couldn't care less.
Adult court for both. If there are other issues going on, then by all means, get them help. But those issues can't mitigate legally what they did.
get the red out
(13,462 posts)They deserve jail time and charges that destroy their lives. There is no animal on Earth whose life isn't more valuable than creatures that do this. They are irredeemably evil.
JustAnotherGen
(31,818 posts)We have R. Jack living with us. He's a painted back turtle we rescued. Wonder if those girls realized that turtles handle by humans actually "know" their humans and "hide" when a human they don't know gets curious about them.
Mean. Mean. Mean.
conservaphobe
(1,284 posts)One of the most vivid memories I have of childhood is a neighborhood boy picking up a baby frog and throwing it as hard as he could against a brick wall.
City Lights
(25,171 posts)I hope they are charged.
H2O Man
(73,536 posts)It makes me sick to read such things.
AngryOldDem
(14,061 posts)I watched maybe 10 seconds of it and I had to end it. The story has been truly bothering me ever since.
Yes, charges should be filed. Yes, the girls should be treated as adults. The fact that they knew what they were doing and were laughing about it takes it out of the category of "juvenile prank." They knew they were killing this creature.
The message needs to be sent that torture of any kind is WRONG. Especially against the defenseless.
H2O Man
(73,536 posts)When young folks torture animals, it is a clear indicator of pathology.
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)Bragi
(7,650 posts)There's a jail for that!
Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)Bragi
(7,650 posts)That's the route to take. Much better chance than jail for a good outcome.
immoderate
(20,885 posts)They should be sentenced to mandatory counseling. Jail will not make them better people.
--imm
Saboburns
(2,807 posts)I'd like to help these two girls be better, more compassionate human beings. How is "locking them up and throwing away the fucking key" going to accomplish it??
I'm upset, sad, and troubled by their actions. I'm a gentle souled animal lover. It'd be true to say I love my dogs more than people.
But sometimes the fierce hate here REALLY shocks me.
I'm just not good at hating.
Well except for Dick Cheney. Him I HATE.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)the conscience is developed by the age of three. Cruelty to animals and arson are precursors to serial killing of people by sociopaths. All the therapy in the world will not build a conscience where there is an absence of one.
meti57b
(3,584 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,703 posts)Earth_First
(14,910 posts)miles from anywhere.
If they make it back...good for them.
If not, well...
Either way they learn just how cruel nature can be.
Saboburns
(2,807 posts)Cause to me, your plan here is much worse than what these girls did (which is a terribly cruel act). Do you really want to torture and maybe kill two girls??
Because from what I read here, your wanting to torture and maybe kill these girls makes you a serial killer to be. With no chance to be anything other than a twisted serial killing rapist.
Know what I mean??