General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums1,200+ killed in Gaza, 40 percent declared DMZ, evacuation notices and ROUTINE bombing of shelters
This is a massacre. These are war crimes.
It is indefensible and unacceptable. This long ago ceased being about self-defense, rockets or tunnels. It is long past time for the US to give the war criminals an ultimatum: End the slaughter now, or no more US dollars. The blood of the innocent Palestinian is on our hands.
Here is picture of Israel warning of more bombings to come. Of course, there is no where safe to go. There never has been. Israel has declared 40 percent of Gaza a DMZ, Israel has routinely bombed UN shelters, Israel has even bombed the power supplies. There is no where left to go. Israel is shooting fish in a barrel and enjoying the support of US leaders while they do it. It is disgusting and shameful.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)Last night, children were killed as they slept next to their parents on the floor of a classroom in a UN designated shelter in Gaza. Children killed in their sleep; this is an affront to all of us, a source of universal shame. Today the world stands disgraced.
We have visited the site and gathered evidence. We have analysed fragments, examined craters and other damage. Our initial assessment is that it was Israeli artillery that hit our school, in which 3,300 people had sought refuge. We believe there were at least three impacts. It is too early to give a confirmed official death toll. But we know that there were multiple civilian deaths and injuries including of women and children and the UNRWA guard who was trying to protect the site. These are people who were instructed to leave their homes by the Israeli army.
The precise location of the Jabalia Elementary Girls School and the fact that it was housing thousands of internally displaced people was communicated to the Israeli army seventeen times, to ensure its protection; the last being at ten to nine last night, just hours before the fatal shelling.
I condemn in the strongest possible terms this serious violation of international law by Israeli forces.
This is the sixth time that one of our schools has been struck. Our staff, the very people leading the humanitarian response are being killed. Our shelters are overflowing. Tens of thousands may soon be stranded in the streets of Gaza, without food, water and shelter if attacks on these areas continue.
We have moved beyond the realm of humanitarian action alone. We are in the realm of accountability. I call on the international community to take deliberate international political action to put an immediate end to the continuing carnage.
http://www.unrwa.org/newsroom/official-statements/unrwa-strongly-condemns-israeli-shelling-its-school-gaza-serious
Bettie
(16,109 posts)Then, settlers can take over and they can turn their attention to exterminating the human beings living in the West Bank. It's a test case, to see if they can really get away with mass murder. So far, the evidence shows that yes, they can.
At very least, they are radicalizing the population further. They are showing them, one and all that they are prisoners and totally at the mercy of their jailers. People who have nothing more to lose will risk everything.
Our leaders need to get a backbone and say "No More".
morningfog
(18,115 posts)It's unconscionable.
Bettie
(16,109 posts)It is horrible and needs to stop. Sadly, I doubt any government is willing to stop them.
malaise
(268,998 posts)Bettie
(16,109 posts)Then, they get the natural gas and the land.
The extermination of the people they displaced in the first place is just a bonus.
alsame
(7,784 posts)license in another occupied territory.
Israeli-American Company To Drill For Oil In Occupied Golan Heights
<snip>
Which is why its kind of a big deal that Israel has decided to allow an American-Israeli firm to drill for oil there, as reported by Israeli financial daily Globes this week:
the Ministry of Energy and Water Resources' Petroleum Council recommended awarding the license to Genie Energy Ltd. (NYSE: GNE), headed by former minister Effie Eitam.
Some interesting personnel notes: Dick Cheney and Rupert Murdoch serve on Genies Strategic Advisory Board, as does Lord Jacob Rothschild, chairman of the Rothschild Foundation. Genie is also the parent company of Israel Energy Initiatives Ltd. (IEI), which is moving forward on a venture to develop shale oil deposits in [Israels] coastal plain. IEIs Chief Scientist, Harold Vinegar, likewise serves on Genies Strategic Advisory Board.
<snip>
So heres what we have: a warmongering former American Vice President (and virulent opponent of the current President); a media mogul of dubious ethics; the head of an international Jewish philanthropic entity dedicated to (among other things) the environment, sustainable development and green energy; a tightly bound confluence of American and Israeli business interests; and a former Israeli governmental minister who is one caveat shy of advocating mass genocide, all about to benefit from exploiting the natural resources of a large chunk of land that, according to international law, actually belongs to another country.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/02/22/israeli-american-company-to-drill-for-oil-in-occupied-golan-heights.html
Spazito
(50,338 posts)this certainly explains so much about what is now happening to the Palestinian people. Oil and gas, the real reason Iraqis died and now the reason Palestinians are dying.
alsame
(7,784 posts)hack89
(39,171 posts)how many times does it have to be pointed out that the gas field off of Gaza is the smallest of three gas fields in Israel waters and that the other two fields are more than enough to meet all of Israel's energy needs and then some.
The field is considered to have proven reserves of 223 billion cubic metres (7.9 trillion cubic feet) of natural gas and is estimated to contain an additional 84 BCM of probable reserves and 49 BCM of possible reserves.[15][14][16] At the time of discovery, the field was the largest find of gas or oil in the Levant basin of the Eastern Mediterranean Sea and the largest discovery by Noble Energy. Production began in April, 2013.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamar_gas_field
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leviathan_gas_field
blackspade
(10,056 posts)hack89
(39,171 posts)It is further north then I suspect you think.
blackspade
(10,056 posts)There are two fields within 30 miles of the Gaza coast that belong to the Palestinians.
Both are being exploited by the Israelis.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)They have no where they can go to escape the slaughter. If there were a way for them to leave Gaza then it wouldn't be an extermination.
Bettie
(16,109 posts)But the timetable has clearly been stepped up a bit, probably due to the natural gas...now there's something they want in Gaza.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)El Salvador recalled its Israeli ambassador from Tel Aviv on Wednesday to protest the military operation in Gaza, making it the fifth Latin American country to do so.
Brazil, Chile, Ecuador and Peru have already recalled their ambassadors.
Hope the trend continues.
Spazito
(50,338 posts)What Israel is doing to the Palestinians in Gaza is absolutely criminal yet they continue to kill Palestinians with impunity. Horrific.
Tetris_Iguana
(501 posts)The US government will likely continue its long held tradition of exterminating and oppressing native peoples for profit.
malaise
(268,998 posts)British
jwirr
(39,215 posts)this for what it is.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)I just wonder where a Palestinian trail of tears would even go. Into the sea? Egypt? We're talking over a million people facing home, electricity and water loss.
My husband said the same thing last weekend. We have seen this behavior before and it is disgusting.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)I am shocked by how united DU is in their condemnation of Israel's actions.
DU is seldom this united.
I guess we agree that this slaughter is completely unwarranted.
This puts Israel in a terrible light.
I don't understand why they do not recognize this action as counterproductive to their interests.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)Routine and regular war crimes are now being committed.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)as we do.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)Karmadillo
(9,253 posts)to only CNN or FOX, one would pretty much think it was business as usual. The terrorist tunnels must be destroyed. The IDF isn't sure what happened but there is an investigation ongoing. Human shields. Right to defend against terrorism. But now one can go on Twitter or sites for independent journalism and see and hear the horrors of what is happening. Maybe there's not just hope for this place, maybe there's hope for the world. There are an awful lot of decent people out there with governments that do not always reflect that decency.
malaise
(268,998 posts)and as you wrote there are an awful lot of decent people out there with governments that do not always reflect that decency.
Ghost of Tom Joad
(1,355 posts)the power station was bombed. The reality of what is happening was changing a lot of peoples minds about the carnage that is occurring in Gaza.
Spazito
(50,338 posts)through a complicit media who filtered their coverage accordingly. With the internet access we now have, people are getting the unfiltered story about what is happening in Gaza hence the changing view of Israel and it's actions. The Israeli government has yet to realize they can no longer control the message and that their credibility on anything has disappeared.
I read an interesting article entitled "Why Benjamin Netanyahu Should Be Very, Very Worried", which brought my attention to the change in how the public is now able to get their information unfiltered, it was very interesting.
"Netanyahu should be worried. The Israeli public should be worried. All supporters of the Jewish state should be worriednot only about the prospect of current events spiraling out of control, but also about a confluence of demographic and social trends that threaten Israel's ability to manage the war of perceptions."
http://www.nationaljournal.com/white-house/why-benjamin-netanyahu-should-be-very-very-worried-20140728
joelz
(185 posts)the Warsaw ghetto in 1943 a nasty war crime of course Netanyahu will walk on this one as he always does
KG
(28,751 posts)sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)Then came W, and we lost all their respect. Since we are still the enablers to this massacre, we also will lose more and more of the PR wars. Netanyahu's government should have been enough of a warning to the US, but obviously it has to get to the total destruction of Gaza, before our Congress revokes any further support.
johnnyreb
(915 posts)I agree that this is disgusting and probably war crimes. But why should anyone fear prosecution for war crimes after the last couple decades. It's past time to give the term meaning.
blackspade
(10,056 posts)It's despicable.
ancianita
(36,055 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)Just FYI.
ancianita
(36,055 posts)In print, he's disappeared. But if he's no longer a special emissary to Netanyahu, no longer tied to Knesset and the IDF, then what's he doing? Wasting his strategic killing capacities on a kibbutz? Working with private security forces?
Do you know? I'm asking because I think he's influencing these corporatists. Or they him...
Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)$3 billion a year.
And now Obama wants to give the poor Israelis even more.