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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsStatistics about race relations in America (they're not good).
Here's a selection from the article...
41% of blacks are currently satisfied with the way they are treated in society.
4% of Americans still wouldn't vote for a Black candidate for president, under any circumstances
Among those aged 65 or over, only 91% are prepared to vote for a black President.
In resumes, white-sounding names are 50% more likely to get called for an initial interview. (Sarah and Todd are far more likely to advance the first steps toward employment than La-Teesha and Jamal.)
17% of black Americans feel they were treated unfairly by police in the past 30 days.
68% of blacks say the U.S. justice system is biased against them.
The full picture is here - http://sheppardpost.com/the-real-state-of-race-relations-in-america/ a good reminder about the need to push back against the attacks on the tried and true, and still relevant civil rights legislation, and the politically / electorally motivated voter suppression actions the Right attempts, and how they're encouraged by Fox and other right-wing media. There's still so far to go - and It'll take progressive values, and the legislation borne of them to get there.
pipoman
(16,038 posts)I can't believe this isn't progress. Frankly, I can't believe most of those numbers aren't progress.
'Half empty' thinking has more often derailed progress than anything else. ..imo
"only 91%" is a fantastic number.
The last time 91% of Americans agreed on anything was after 9/11. Considering that it took fear and righteous anger to get such a consensus during those times, having people reach a similar consensus on their own is fantastic progress.
OP, don't let perfect be the enemy of the good.
steve2470
(37,461 posts)JustAnotherGen
(33,033 posts)My nephews are totally screwed.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Last edited Thu Jul 31, 2014, 10:33 AM - Edit history (1)
Just read above:
He has a:
3 out of 4 chance of NOT being stopped because of his race;
24 in 25 chance that people WOULD vote for someone of his skin color to be President under SOME circumstances, including 9-in-10 of the older folk;
nearly-8-in-10 of those folks would approve of him marrying your girlfriend if she happened to be white, with 7-in-10 of the older people feeling differently;
But he's still screwed when it comes to a job, though!
But we have to stop this depressing nay-saying with respect to race ... we're getting to equality "with all deliberate speed."
Be happy with the progress!
Funny how progress, not perfection, is a good thing on some issues (e.g., race/gender/lgbtq issues); but the unsufferable, death chant of deliberate and willing delay, on others (e.g., anything that affects straight, white males) ... Huh?
Squinch
(52,110 posts)There are no statistics that I know of that suggest the justice system is NOT biased against them.
LuvNewcastle
(16,971 posts)put them there. It's self-evident, I think.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)Last edited Thu Jul 31, 2014, 09:40 AM - Edit history (1)
That is actually very encouraging and much higher than I would have guessed. I wonder what this percentage was 50 years ago.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)BumRushDaShow
(137,933 posts)Yet in reality, the reverse was actually what occurred during the last 2 elections-
The vast majority of Americans who are 65 and older are members of the Silent generation (ages 66 to 83). They came of age in the Truman, Eisenhower and Kennedy years. Silents favored the Democrats at times during the 1990s, but in recent elections have strongly supported the Republicans. While they aligned more with the Democrats in the 1990s, they have become much more Republican in recent years. The Silent generation replaced the Greatest generation, who were more reliable Democratic voters when they constituted the bulk of the senior vote.
Silents increasingly call themselves conservative and they hold the most consistently conservative views about government, social issues and Americas place in the world. Unlike other generations that in recent years have become more supportive of smaller government, they have held conservative views about government for years.
Today, an overwhelming majority of Silents are either angry or frustrated with government. They are the generation that is most strongly disapproving of Barack Obama, for whom a majority did not vote. Silents also are the most politically energized generation, as they demonstrated in the 2010 midterms.
http://www.people-press.org/2011/11/03/the-generation-gap-and-the-2012-election-3/
The fact that a "coalition" of America voted for this current President is still heartening as this shows that the tide is changing but we still have a ways to go.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)BumRushDaShow
(137,933 posts)which in itself is remarkable as across the country - whether at the local or at the state levels (including congressional elections), generally AAs could count on about 25% of the white vote and in good cases, maybe 30%. Deval Patrick broke a barrier some 2 years before Prez. Obama was first elected by getting (what I recall seeing in articles) something like 50% of the white vote in MA. The fact that Barack Obama got 40% at the national level was a lurch ahead, but still shows there are alot of institutional and cultural perception issues to overcome.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)That is not true. Not looking at the statistics and the actual results from previous elections. The majority of whites, 65+ were not voting for Barack Obama. They voted for John McCain and Mitt Romney by an overwhelming majority.
BumRushDaShow
(137,933 posts)Shoonra
(540 posts)The 2008 Election was not simply white guy against black guy with the votes being made along racial lines.
McCain was, after all, an honored veteran and ex-POW, an experienced Senator and he had previously been unfairly treated by the Bush campaign people, so there was a lot of sympathy for him, perhaps even beyond the white race.
Against that, Barack Obama was mostly an unknown quality - the general public knew two things, he was black and he talked a good game; not necessarily enough to bring over a lot of people who had previously voted Republican.
Also, McCain had picked a woman for VP - which might have attracted some feminist votes no matter how unqualified Sarah Palin obviously was.
So for Obama to have gotten 40% of the white vote in 2008 was pretty good.
BumRushDaShow
(137,933 posts)that failed for him (although she continues to profit from it). Particularly when you had GOP women like Kay Bailey Hutchinson who might have made the race more formidable.
And I don't know about this "talked a good game" bit but in his previous electoral positions (whether as U.S. Senator, or moreso as an IL State Senator) Barack Obama had a record. I have been looking for this chart for a LONG time after I first encountered it either here on DU or elsewhere, and finally found it as part of responding to this post!
(Credit to NY Times July 29, 2007 - http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2007/07/29/us/politics/20070730_OBAMA_GRAPHIC.html)
If anything, I always felt that this showed where his focus was prior to coming into the Presidency and that is what he essentially got to early on.... the very thing that the GOP has been unrelenting in its attacks against (including yesterday's vote for a lawsuit, which once more, relates back to the ACA like the other 54-some votes against it).
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)to race-related questions. I simply don't.
LuvNewcastle
(16,971 posts)They would vote for someone like Alan West and they probably like Clarence Thomas. It's only a certain kind of black person they like -- the ones who aspire to be white.
BumRushDaShow
(137,933 posts)That's how loons like Alan West, Alan Keyes, J.C. Watts, Tim Scott, etc., got into some sort of office. They were "our blacks" as Ann Coultergeist dubbed them.
LuvNewcastle
(16,971 posts)been called "house n#####s." That was the derogatory term that the people who labored in the fields would call those who worked in the master's house and were part of the family.