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echochamberlain

(56 posts)
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 07:04 AM Jul 2014

Statistics about race relations in America (they're not good).

Here's a selection from the article...

41% of blacks are currently satisfied with the way they are treated in society.

4% of Americans still wouldn't vote for a Black candidate for president, under any circumstances

Among those aged 65 or over, only 91% are prepared to vote for a black President.

In resumes, “white-sounding” names are “50% more likely to get called for an initial interview. (“Sarah” and “Todd” are far more likely to advance the first steps toward employment than “La-Teesha” and “Jamal”.)

17% of black Americans feel they were treated unfairly by police in the past 30 days.

68% of blacks say the U.S. justice system is biased against them.

The full picture is here - http://sheppardpost.com/the-real-state-of-race-relations-in-america/ a good reminder about the need to push back against the attacks on the tried and true, and still relevant civil rights legislation, and the politically / electorally motivated voter suppression actions the Right attempts, and how they're encouraged by Fox and other right-wing media. There's still so far to go - and It'll take progressive values, and the legislation borne of them to get there.

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Statistics about race relations in America (they're not good). (Original Post) echochamberlain Jul 2014 OP
"they're not good" progress not perfection. ..progress is good pipoman Jul 2014 #1
Right Tetris_Iguana Jul 2014 #2
+ 1 nt steve2470 Jul 2014 #3
The summary is the best part JustAnotherGen Jul 2014 #4
No, he's not ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #6
Who are the 32% of black people who DON'T think the justice system is biased against them? Squinch Jul 2014 #5
All you have to do is look at the prisoners and the laws that LuvNewcastle Jul 2014 #11
96% of people would be prepared to vote for a black president? Nye Bevan Jul 2014 #7
I believe the actual number is closer to 50%. I really do. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2014 #19
"Among those aged 65 or over, only 91% are prepared to vote for a black President." BumRushDaShow Jul 2014 #8
Exactly! That 91% is pure bullshit! I think it's a lie from the pit of hell. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2014 #10
Barack Obama managed to get about 40% of the white vote BumRushDaShow Jul 2014 #13
I'm willing to go along with the 40%, but definitely not the 91% of 65 and older. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2014 #18
Exactly. nt BumRushDaShow Jul 2014 #20
That 40% is significant .... Shoonra Jul 2014 #21
McCain's selection of Palin was a cheap stunt BumRushDaShow Jul 2014 #22
I don't believe some of these statistics. I don't believe people are honest when it comes Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2014 #9
It's not a complete lie. LuvNewcastle Jul 2014 #12
^^ THIS ^^ !!!! BumRushDaShow Jul 2014 #14
Back in the old days they would have LuvNewcastle Jul 2014 #15
It ain't just an "old days" thing BumRushDaShow Jul 2014 #16
Ahhh...o.k., but only in certain circumstances. I get what you're saying, though. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2014 #17
 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
1. "they're not good" progress not perfection. ..progress is good
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 07:12 AM
Jul 2014
"Among those aged 65 or over, only 91% are prepared to vote for a black President."

I can't believe this isn't progress. Frankly, I can't believe most of those numbers aren't progress.

'Half empty' thinking has more often derailed progress than anything else. ..imo

Tetris_Iguana

(501 posts)
2. Right
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 07:29 AM
Jul 2014

"only 91%" is a fantastic number.

The last time 91% of Americans agreed on anything was after 9/11. Considering that it took fear and righteous anger to get such a consensus during those times, having people reach a similar consensus on their own is fantastic progress.

OP, don't let perfect be the enemy of the good.

JustAnotherGen

(33,033 posts)
4. The summary is the best part
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 08:09 AM
Jul 2014


So: If you’re a black man in his late twenties, looking for a job,there is a one-in-four chance you will be singled out and stopped by the cops; one in twenty-five of the people, wherever you go, would not vote for someone of your skin color to be President under any circumstances, including one-in-ten of the older folk; nearly-two-out-of-ten of those folks would disapprove of you marrying your girlfriend if she happened to be white, with three-out-of-ten of the older people feeling that way; and, because of your recognizably African-American name, you are 50% less likely than your white competitors to get a call for an initial interview after you’ve submitted your C.V.


My nephews are totally screwed.
 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
6. No, he's not ...
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 08:39 AM
Jul 2014

Last edited Thu Jul 31, 2014, 10:33 AM - Edit history (1)

Just read above:

He has a:

3 out of 4 chance of NOT being stopped because of his race;
24 in 25 chance that people WOULD vote for someone of his skin color to be President under SOME circumstances, including 9-in-10 of the older folk;
nearly-8-in-10 of those folks would approve of him marrying your girlfriend if she happened to be white, with 7-in-10 of the older people feeling differently;

But he's still screwed when it comes to a job, though!

But we have to stop this depressing nay-saying with respect to race ... we're getting to equality "with all deliberate speed."

Be happy with the progress!

Funny how progress, not perfection, is a good thing on some issues (e.g., race/gender/lgbtq issues); but the unsufferable, death chant of deliberate and willing delay, on others (e.g., anything that affects straight, white males) ... Huh?

Squinch

(52,110 posts)
5. Who are the 32% of black people who DON'T think the justice system is biased against them?
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 08:35 AM
Jul 2014

There are no statistics that I know of that suggest the justice system is NOT biased against them.

LuvNewcastle

(16,971 posts)
11. All you have to do is look at the prisoners and the laws that
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 09:45 AM
Jul 2014

put them there. It's self-evident, I think.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
7. 96% of people would be prepared to vote for a black president?
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 08:52 AM
Jul 2014

Last edited Thu Jul 31, 2014, 09:40 AM - Edit history (1)

That is actually very encouraging and much higher than I would have guessed. I wonder what this percentage was 50 years ago.

BumRushDaShow

(137,933 posts)
8. "Among those aged 65 or over, only 91% are prepared to vote for a black President."
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 09:35 AM
Jul 2014

Yet in reality, the reverse was actually what occurred during the last 2 elections-

A Closer Look at … Older Americans

The vast majority of Americans who are 65 and older are members of the Silent generation (ages 66 to 83). They came of age in the Truman, Eisenhower and Kennedy years. Silents favored the Democrats at times during the 1990s, but in recent elections have strongly supported the Republicans. While they aligned more with the Democrats in the 1990s, they have become much more Republican in recent years. The Silent generation “replaced” the Greatest generation, who were more reliable Democratic voters when they constituted the bulk of the senior vote.



Silents increasingly call themselves conservative and they hold the most consistently conservative views about government, social issues and America’s place in the world. Unlike other generations that in recent years have become more supportive of smaller government, they have held conservative views about government for years.

Today, an overwhelming majority of Silents are either angry or frustrated with government. They are the generation that is most strongly disapproving of Barack Obama, for whom a majority did not vote. Silents also are the most politically energized generation, as they demonstrated in the 2010 midterms.

http://www.people-press.org/2011/11/03/the-generation-gap-and-the-2012-election-3/


The fact that a "coalition" of America voted for this current President is still heartening as this shows that the tide is changing but we still have a ways to go.

BumRushDaShow

(137,933 posts)
13. Barack Obama managed to get about 40% of the white vote
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 09:50 AM
Jul 2014

which in itself is remarkable as across the country - whether at the local or at the state levels (including congressional elections), generally AAs could count on about 25% of the white vote and in good cases, maybe 30%. Deval Patrick broke a barrier some 2 years before Prez. Obama was first elected by getting (what I recall seeing in articles) something like 50% of the white vote in MA. The fact that Barack Obama got 40% at the national level was a lurch ahead, but still shows there are alot of institutional and cultural perception issues to overcome.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
18. I'm willing to go along with the 40%, but definitely not the 91% of 65 and older.
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 10:19 AM
Jul 2014

That is not true. Not looking at the statistics and the actual results from previous elections. The majority of whites, 65+ were not voting for Barack Obama. They voted for John McCain and Mitt Romney by an overwhelming majority.

Shoonra

(540 posts)
21. That 40% is significant ....
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 12:48 PM
Jul 2014

The 2008 Election was not simply white guy against black guy with the votes being made along racial lines.
McCain was, after all, an honored veteran and ex-POW, an experienced Senator and he had previously been unfairly treated by the Bush campaign people, so there was a lot of sympathy for him, perhaps even beyond the white race.

Against that, Barack Obama was mostly an unknown quality - the general public knew two things, he was black and he talked a good game; not necessarily enough to bring over a lot of people who had previously voted Republican.

Also, McCain had picked a woman for VP - which might have attracted some feminist votes no matter how unqualified Sarah Palin obviously was.

So for Obama to have gotten 40% of the white vote in 2008 was pretty good.

BumRushDaShow

(137,933 posts)
22. McCain's selection of Palin was a cheap stunt
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 01:20 PM
Jul 2014

that failed for him (although she continues to profit from it). Particularly when you had GOP women like Kay Bailey Hutchinson who might have made the race more formidable.

And I don't know about this "talked a good game" bit but in his previous electoral positions (whether as U.S. Senator, or moreso as an IL State Senator) Barack Obama had a record. I have been looking for this chart for a LONG time after I first encountered it either here on DU or elsewhere, and finally found it as part of responding to this post!



(Credit to NY Times July 29, 2007 - http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2007/07/29/us/politics/20070730_OBAMA_GRAPHIC.html)

If anything, I always felt that this showed where his focus was prior to coming into the Presidency and that is what he essentially got to early on.... the very thing that the GOP has been unrelenting in its attacks against (including yesterday's vote for a lawsuit, which once more, relates back to the ACA like the other 54-some votes against it).

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
9. I don't believe some of these statistics. I don't believe people are honest when it comes
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 09:36 AM
Jul 2014

to race-related questions. I simply don't.

LuvNewcastle

(16,971 posts)
12. It's not a complete lie.
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 09:49 AM
Jul 2014

They would vote for someone like Alan West and they probably like Clarence Thomas. It's only a certain kind of black person they like -- the ones who aspire to be white.

BumRushDaShow

(137,933 posts)
14. ^^ THIS ^^ !!!!
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 09:54 AM
Jul 2014


That's how loons like Alan West, Alan Keyes, J.C. Watts, Tim Scott, etc., got into some sort of office. They were "our blacks" as Ann Coultergeist dubbed them.

LuvNewcastle

(16,971 posts)
15. Back in the old days they would have
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 10:05 AM
Jul 2014

been called "house n#####s." That was the derogatory term that the people who labored in the fields would call those who worked in the master's house and were part of the family.

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