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FSogol

(45,484 posts)
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 01:48 PM Jul 2014

"Who's The Man? Hollywood Heroes Defined Masculinity For Millions"

by Bob Mondello for NPR

"Tony Curtis used to say that he'd learned how to kiss a girl by watching Cary Grant at the movies. Let's give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he wasn't just sitting behind Grant at the theater — while also noting that he's hardly alone in taking instruction from films.

Movies have always offered a window through which audiences, sitting in the dark, can observe human nature without being observed. A movie theater is where many a boy learned how to make things right, the way John Wayne did in so many pictures, with fists or a gun. Movies taught about sacrificing for the greater good, as Humphrey Bogart did when he sent Ingrid Bergman off with a "here's lookin' at you, kid" in Casablanca. They're a place to learn about standing firm against injustice (with Spencer Tracy in Inherit the Wind), and about standing up for yourself (with Sidney Poitier in A Raisin in the Sun).

All of which was useful for a nation that thought of itself as a melting pot. For generations, newly arrived immigrants had emerged slowly from their ethnic enclaves in big cities, where things were comfortingly just like the old country. Assimilating was hard.

But film — even back when it was silent — was like an instruction manual for the American experience. For a nickel at the nickelodeon, a foreign fellow fresh off the boat could see exactly how American men dressed, how they greeted each other (with a handshake, not with European kisses on each cheek), and, more generally, how people in his newly adopted country behaved. Admittedly, silent films used a kind of shorthand for American behavior — stereotypes, to allow directors to brush in characters quickly without dialogue: women were almost always domestic, delicate and passive, while men were outgoing, strong and active."

SNIP to comply with DU's 4 paragraph rule. Article is really interesting and doesn't end up how you think it will. Mondello makes a good arguement for why there are so many super hero films these days.

Whole article and/or link to listen here:

http://www.npr.org/2014/07/30/336575116/whos-the-man-hollywood-heroes-defined-masculinity-for-millions

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"Who's The Man? Hollywood Heroes Defined Masculinity For Millions" (Original Post) FSogol Jul 2014 OP
Shaft? rocktivity Jul 2014 #1
As always, I stand on the shoulders of giants... TlalocW Jul 2014 #2
LOL, do you have a cartoon that says, "I didn't read the article?" FSogol Jul 2014 #3
I did read the article first TlalocW Jul 2014 #4
Sure, just put Woody Allen, Hugh Grant, or Fred Astaire in one of those cartoons FSogol Jul 2014 #6
The comic is about one particular type of movie. nt redqueen Jul 2014 #8
True, but the article is about how movie heroes have evolved. FSogol Jul 2014 #9
Are there any gay superheroes? redqueen Jul 2014 #10
Yes, there are gay superheroes in comics, but not in movies yet. n/t FSogol Jul 2014 #11
Yes, same with female superheroes. redqueen Jul 2014 #12
LOL, Time Warner is scared to death of Wonder Woman. FSogol Jul 2014 #13
Love love sinfest. Xyzse Jul 2014 #7
But still no Wonder Woman redqueen Jul 2014 #5

TlalocW

(15,382 posts)
2. As always, I stand on the shoulders of giants...
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 02:05 PM
Jul 2014

Specifically, web comics for which I can find an example related to any subject.







TlalocW

TlalocW

(15,382 posts)
4. I did read the article first
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 02:12 PM
Jul 2014

But I still think the critique of modern movies the cartoons make is valid.

TlalocW

FSogol

(45,484 posts)
6. Sure, just put Woody Allen, Hugh Grant, or Fred Astaire in one of those cartoons
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 02:17 PM
Jul 2014

and it still works, right?

FSogol

(45,484 posts)
9. True, but the article is about how movie heroes have evolved.
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 02:22 PM
Jul 2014

No recognition of that from the cartoons, so the cartoons, while good, don't really have anything to do with what the article is discussing.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
10. Are there any gay superheroes?
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 02:28 PM
Jul 2014

Aren't they mostly all paired with hot n sexy women?

Don't they mostly use violence to settle conflict?

They're not as stilted as action movies in general, but I dunno how much they manage to break out of that mold.

FSogol

(45,484 posts)
13. LOL, Time Warner is scared to death of Wonder Woman.
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 02:52 PM
Jul 2014

They don't want to make her into the next Catwoman (2004, starring Halle Berry).

Marvel has trouble getting a female superhero to the big screen too. They have a new Muslim Ms. Marvel and have been promoting Spiderwoman in their books, but are afraid of giving Scarlet Johannsen a "Black Widow" solo movie. Unfortunately, female characters will be stuck with supporting roles in those types of movies for a few years.

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