I love when the irrational left uses the talking points of the irrational right.

[Drunken Irishman]

Two peas on a whole shit-load of issues.

The outrage over Obama calling terrorist 'folks' from many on the right is just as absurdly pathetic as it is from the left. It makes me wonder if those vocal crazies on the left are entirely plants for the conservatives considering they seem to always fall back on the same talking points.

[steve2470]

1. .....

[BainsBane]

2. How do you tell them apart?

[neverforget]

3. Hmm

[pa28]

4. Go tell the "folks" who got tortured not to get too sanctimonious.

While you're at it be sure to explain that the torturers were just patriots acting in the heat of the moment. I'm sure they'll understand.

[emulatorloo]

7. Really cool how you put words in Drunken Irishman's mouth!

Must be fun making up shit and pretending others said the shit you made up.

[BainsBane]

12. Are you pissed at Obama because he admitted the US government had done that?

After 9/11, rather than lying about it, as the presidents who weren't "corporatist sell outs" did?"

[JaneyVee]

5. Oh boy, I'm glad I missed this whole episode.

Was having amusement park fun with the kids. Carry on.

[emulatorloo]

8. It is an ongoing saga, the devolution of DU into a funhouse mirror image of Free Republic.

Sounds like a great day w the kids!

[JaneyVee]

9. I just read about it now. Ugh.

I'm actually glad he used 'folks' instead of terrorists being that most weren't convicted of anything.

[conservaphobe]

6. The hate from both extremes is so frustrating.

Living in this Appalachian hellhole, there's no sanctuary anywhere free of hateful comments about the President.

Not even online.

Sucks.

[JaneyVee]

10. Stay strong, I have much respect for red state liberals.

It's pretty easy being a Liberal here in blue NYC and finding others who share your values, must be tough in red states.

[steve2470]

11. it's very tough nt

[Hekate]

13. A toast to you, DI

Bunches of threads right here in which "folks" who apparently never saw today's press conference have abundant opinions about what was said, and it's aaaaaaaaaaaallllllllll bad, because Evil Obama.

Oy

[steve2470]

16. I was actually impressed he said the word TORTURE

I've NEVER heard an American president admit that WE tortured. NEVER.

[Hekate]

18. It was a VERY important moment and its significance went whooshing right over the heads...

...of those who can't give up their grip on the notion that Obama is Teh Evil, or Obama is Teh Complicit, or Obama is Teh Spineless, or...but you get the picture.

[Union Scribe]

14. Friday night eh? nt

[Comrade Grumpy]

15. I always consider the source when a Drunken Irishman opines. n/t

[AgingAmerican]

17. 'Both sides do it!'

Anderson, is that you?

[BillZBubb]

19. Is the "irrational left" comprised of anyone who doesn't agree with you?

I have no problem criticizing the president when I know he's made a mistake. That is not irrational. What is irrational is pretending any politician is always right or trying to rationalize mistakes.

In this case the use of the word "folks" doesn't bother me too much, but it does sound un-presidential. It is too colloquial for the seriousness of the subject. Even so, I'd give him a pass. At least he admitted the obvious, we had tortured people.

[BainsBane]

20. I would say it is just as irrational

to imagine all power rests with the President, and that he alone is responsible for all that pisses you off. I would also say it is irrational to blame him particularly for aspects of our government and country that have existed for decades, if not since its foundation. I don't object to critiques or discussions on issues. What frustrates me, and frankly bores me, is the tendency to reduce it all to an individual, just as all hope for salvation is rested on an individual (currently Elizabeth Warren. ) It's intellectually facile, counter-factual and counter-historical.

[Hekate]

21. Indeed