I'm mad about Obama and torture...

[MannyGoldstein]

I'm told that many DUers are mad about our President using the word "torture" today.

Are you mad? If so, why?

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	I'm mad because if people commit torture, they should be prosecuted
	4 (100%)
	I'm mad because using the word "torture" is extreme
	0 (0%)
	I'm good - using the word "torture" makes sense, but prosecuting torturers would be wrong
	0 (0%)
	Manny, it's very telling that you didn't give the following option... (please supply option)
	0 (0%)
	I'm mad because Obama referred to the tortured as "folks"
	0 (0%)
	0 DU members did not wish to select any of the options provided.
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[Rex]

1. So people are mad that he used the word 'torture' or 'folks'?

I'm a little outraged at myself for not being able to muster up enough energy to be mad and perhaps almost outraged atvm. I do plan on being outraged later on, but that is over something completely unrelated to this topic.

[MannyGoldstein]

3. I added that as an option. nt

[Cali_Democrat]

4. I think you got it wrong

When Obama was referring to "folks", he meant the people getting tortured, not the people committing the torture.

[MannyGoldstein]

5. *You* think I got something wrong?

Well that's a first.

Actually, you're right. Which mighty actually be a first!

[Cali_Democrat]

7. Actually I'm right about a lot of things...

For example, when I had my discussion with the *other* cali and cthulu about the 2012 election:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=1582005

I nailed it....

You, on the other hand, said that 2012 was unlikely to bring a good outcome at the Presidential level if I recall correctly.

[defacto7]

2. It's not the word "torture" that bothers me the most....

It's the word "We" and the word "Folks". "We" didn't torture anyone, certain people made that decision and "we" is not good enough. The word "Folks" was insulting like "oh just old granddad and uncle Ted got a little tortured, don't ya know." The word "Folks" makes torture just an everyday thing to overlook or forget, no big deal.

I don't think the president has ever said anything this stupid in his presidency and I have never thought of him as anything but exceptional intellectually. This was just thoughtless to say the least.

[Mnemosyne]

6. This^^^^nt

[Autumn]

8. "We tortured some folks,""We did some things that were contrary to our values."

Obama has confidence in Brennan. That crap right there has me mad.

Fuck the word torture.

[MannyGoldstein]

9. Brennan was complicit in the torture

Mind-boggling that he got appointed to anything but "Director of finding a new job for yourself".