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Octafish

(55,745 posts)
Sat Aug 2, 2014, 02:55 PM Aug 2014

Gov. Don Siegelman is still in prison and the BFEE judge who put him there is still a crook.



From his cell at a federal penitentiary in Louisiana, Gov. Siegelman is still seeking justice:



Appeals court to hear appeal of former Gov. Don Siegelman in October

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
July 24, 2014 - 11:23 am EDT

MONTGOMERY, Alabama — A federal appeals court won't be hearing former Gov. Don Siegelman's case next week.

Back in April, the 11th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals tentatively scheduled Siegelman's case for the week of July 28. But Siegelman attorney Susan James says the case has been reset for the week of Oct. 13.

A federal jury in 2006 convicted Siegelman and former HealthSouth CEO Richard Scrushy on bribery and other charges. Prosecutors said Scrushy bribed Siegelman for a spot on a state regulatory board with donations to Siegelman's 1999 lottery campaign.

Siegelman's lawyers say the case was tainted by the involvement of a prosecutor with ties to GOP politics and that the judge made multiple errors in calculating Siegelman's sentence.

SOURCE: http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/34e9be7913ac4d86867111066639c2e8/AL--Siegelman-11th-Circuit



Not surprised my local paper didn't carry that news. Odd, though, that I didn't see it mentioned on DU.

Someone seldom mentioned anywhere good:



Meet Mark E Fuller, smirking in a photo taken minutes after presiding over the triple-jeopardy "trial" of Gov Siegelman:



The Case for Impeaching Federal Judge Mark Fuller

WantedAlabamaDemocrats, July 26, 2012

EXCERPT...

If you picture yourself being outraged, then you have a pretty good idea how former Governor Don Siegelman felt about his 2006 kangaroo-court conviction before George W. Bush-appointed U.S. District Court Judge Mark Fuller.

SNIP...

Fuller was for years, including during the Siegelman trial, a principal of Doss Aviation, Inc.; some reports made him a 43% owner.¹ He was listed on corporate reports as the company’s CEO, even after becoming a federal judge. Doss Aviation’s 2002 Annual Report on file with the Alabama Secretary of State² shows Fuller as the corporate president, with his office listed as 1 Church Street in Montgomery. That just happens to be the United States Courthouse, where Fuller’s court sits.³ In his 2010 financial disclosure form as a federal judge, Fuller valued his interest in Doss at between $5,000,000.00 and $25,000,000.00; with an additional $500,000.00 t0 $1,000,000.00 in the affiliated Doss of Alabama, Inc. That’s enough coin to get even Mitt Romney’s attention.

So what does Doss Aviation do? I will let the homepage of its website speak to that:

Founded in 1970, Doss Aviation, Inc. enjoys over 40 years [sic] experience in supporting the U.S. Government in flight training, aircraft maintenance, maintenance training, into-plane aircraft fuels and bulk fuels management, transient aircraft support services, air traffic control, and other airfield management/logistics services. The company built an enviable reputation in over 50 contracts performing a variety of services for the U.S. Army, U.S. Navy, U.S. Air Force, Defense Logistics Agency - Energy (DLA-E), NASA, FBI, and Department of Homeland Security.


In other words, Doss Aviation is extremely, if not exclusively, dependent on government contracts, many of them no-bid, that can disappear if the Air Force - or the administration in power - decides it isn’t happy with, say, the rulings of a leading shareholder. (Remember, at the time of the Siegelman trial, the administration was Republican.) The conflict of interest is obvious to even a layman. Despite this, Fuller has, throughout his career as a federal judge, regularly decided cases involving the Air Force. A summary of the reported cases follows:

•Webster v. Wynne, 2010 WL 5394752 (M.D. Ala. 2010). Civil employee of the Air Force alleged employment discrimination against the Air Force. Summary judgment granted to Air Force.
•United States v. 22.58 Acres of Land, 2010 WL 431254 (M.D. Ala. 2010). Action seeking condemnation of certain real property located in Montgomery County at the request of the Air Force. Landowner’s motion to dismiss denied.
•OSI, Inc. v. United States, 510 F.Supp.2d 531 (M.D. Ala. 2007). Owner of property adjoining Air Force base sued United States government and officials, stemming from alleged dumping of Air Force hazardous wastes into landfill on property. Summary judgment granted to Air Force.
•Waid v. United States, 2006 WL 1766808 (M.D. Ala. 2006). Driver of automobile injured in accident with Air Force vehicle sued for injuries. Claim against Air Force dismissed.
•Keel v. U.S. Dept. of Air Force, 256 F.Supp.2d 1269 (M.D. Ala. 2003). Plaintiff, a white male, claimed that defendants terminated him on the basis of his race and sex in violation of Title VII, and retaliated against him by barring his access to Air Force base. Summary judgment entered for Air Force.


In another questionable case where the Air Force was not a party, Houston v. Army Fleet Services, L.L.C., 509 F.Supp.2d 1033 (M.D. Ala. 2007), Fuller denied summary judgment to an employment discrimination defendant - which is a competitor of Fuller’s company. I did not find one reported opinion in which Fuller was the judge, in which the Air Force lost the case.

CONTINUED...

http://wantedalabamademocrats.blogspot.com/2012/07/the-case-for-impeaching-federal-judge.html



World of difference between those two Alabamans.
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Gov. Don Siegelman is still in prison and the BFEE judge who put him there is still a crook. (Original Post) Octafish Aug 2014 OP
K & R historylovr Aug 2014 #1
Meanwhile, ''readers'' in Alabama.... Octafish Aug 2014 #8
+1000. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #13
"Readers" rate worst since WW-2? ThoughtCriminal Aug 2014 #15
Yes, and he had many friends. former9thward Aug 2014 #20
I thought they became friends after they left office? Octafish Aug 2014 #21
They were friends in the early 80s. former9thward Aug 2014 #23
George Wallace, Fob James. nt Mnemosyne Aug 2014 #24
Wow. historylovr Aug 2014 #51
K&R sketchy Aug 2014 #2
''Total Quality Service Isn’t Expensive, It’s Priceless'' Octafish Aug 2014 #9
K&R 99Forever Aug 2014 #3
BFEE Judges really tick me off. Take Richard Leon. Please. Octafish Aug 2014 #17
Recommend. nt Zorra Aug 2014 #4
U.S. District Judge Mark E. Fuller Octafish Aug 2014 #25
The conviction, imprisonment, and continued imprisonment of this poor innocent man is a national Zorra Aug 2014 #29
Manning, Siegelman, innocent people jailed, but we must not be sanctimonious about sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #50
Kickin' Faux pas Aug 2014 #5
There are many strange and un-investigated parties to this story: Roy Atchison, US Attorney... Octafish Aug 2014 #26
This just crazier Faux pas Aug 2014 #27
The stuff makes sane people mad. Octafish Aug 2014 #28
I wouldn't be surprised if it's an international thing. Faux pas Aug 2014 #30
Eyes Wide Shut Octafish Aug 2014 #31
Truth is their Faux pas Aug 2014 #46
Siegelman's daughter has been spending so much of her time and energy trying to win truedelphi Aug 2014 #6
Karl Rove is responsible for this travesty of justice. We are told not to be sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #22
Rove laughed in public about this treason. Octafish Aug 2014 #34
I won't Octafish, but sometimes the sheer magnitude of the corruption is mind boggling. sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #39
Absolute Injustice, a Travesty of Just-Us. Octafish Aug 2014 #33
And Obama and the Dem leadership still don't give a F... n2doc Aug 2014 #7
yep. Phlem Aug 2014 #10
That is odd. Guess who got promoted for, eh, after resolving it? Octafish Aug 2014 #35
Travesty that Siegelman fell prey to all this shit. No matter how often you write, you're Jefferson23 Aug 2014 #11
Legal Schnauzer told the truth and got thrown in the slammer for it. Octafish Aug 2014 #36
It is so damn frustrating, and it is important for Americans not to forget about Siegelman. Jefferson23 Aug 2014 #38
Then let's not let it be forgotten. Let's KEEP posting about it and talking about it sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #40
I don't know that you could persuade enough voters this should be a huge issue. I write, I call Jefferson23 Aug 2014 #47
I know it wouldn't be easy, but EVERY mention of this case brings it into the public sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #48
We must keep it current, collectively...agreed. n/t Jefferson23 Aug 2014 #49
K&R. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #12
The story and players... Octafish Aug 2014 #44
Does anyone really expect the administration to do anything to get Don Siegelman out of prison? Jack Rabbit Aug 2014 #14
No, I don't, we are on our own, so let's do something. Let's make it an issue in this sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #41
Well, the Dow Jones is at 17,000, which is what really counts. Octafish Aug 2014 #52
Thank you and thank you to Professor Buchheit Jack Rabbit Aug 2014 #54
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #16
You are most welcome, Uncle Joe! Octafish Aug 2014 #53
K&R&bookmark JEB Aug 2014 #18
Federal Judge Mark E. Fuller arrested on domestic violence charge. Guy's out on bail already. Octafish Aug 2014 #56
Obama's failure to have DOJ reopen a full-blown Siegelman investigation stinks to high heaven 99th_Monkey Aug 2014 #19
And even worse than THAT, he DID look into Republican Sen. Stevens' case, while sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #42
It's weird. There was no corruption in Siegelman's case. Octafish Aug 2014 #57
Thank you, no, there was no corruption in the Siegelman case. Is anyone else tired of waiting for sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #63
KNR. n/t DirkGently Aug 2014 #32
Didya hear what Judge Fuller did to his wife (allegedly cough Turdblossom furball)? Octafish Aug 2014 #58
The people of the South Tsiyu Aug 2014 #37
From your keypad to the Great Accountant... Octafish Aug 2014 #59
LOL.....Some of my friends say, Tsiyu Aug 2014 #65
K&R woo me with science Aug 2014 #43
Siegelman's Judge Charged With Beating Wife, Affair With Clerk Octafish Aug 2014 #60
Kick to expose... CanSocDem Aug 2014 #45
Includes wife beaters...allegedly cough Turdblossom furball... Octafish Aug 2014 #61
JFK had RFK go down to Atlanta to get MLK out of jail in 1960 MinM Aug 2014 #55
The sad thing is... CanSocDem Aug 2014 #62
President Kennedy integrated the Secret Service and FBI. Octafish Aug 2014 #64
Yes .. Abraham Bolden was arrested for his efforts. MinM Aug 2014 #70
His book, ''The Echo from Dealey Plaza,'' made my heart feel like it weighs 140,000 tons. Octafish Aug 2014 #71
President Obama and AG Holder discuss the Siegelman Case MinM Aug 2014 #69
I still despise them each and every one. lonestarnot Aug 2014 #66
I've already kicked and recommended this one, so I can only kick it now. Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #67
Recced. Thanks, Octa. nt. Mc Mike Aug 2014 #68

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
13. +1000.
Sat Aug 2, 2014, 04:58 PM
Aug 2014

Those of us who use the internet must be very careful about how much we believe of what we read here.

I am not referring to the OP.

ThoughtCriminal

(14,047 posts)
15. "Readers" rate worst since WW-2?
Sat Aug 2, 2014, 05:08 PM
Aug 2014

When I grew up there, George Wallace was governor. That set the bar pretty low. "Worst governor in Alabama" is sort of like being the "Town Drunk of Los Angeles" or "Village Idiot of Washington D.C." - you really have to excel at awfulness. But needless to say, self-selected polls at al.com do not bring out the best judges of history and character.

No way does Seigelman come close to the level of evil, incompetence and corruption of many other Alabama politicians.



Octafish

(55,745 posts)
21. I thought they became friends after they left office?
Sun Aug 3, 2014, 01:42 AM
Aug 2014

And George Wallace, too.

Amazing photo, that.

What's the context?

Kenneth, what's the frequency?

historylovr

(1,557 posts)
51. Wow.
Tue Aug 5, 2014, 11:01 AM
Aug 2014

I'm sure those "readers" were spoon-fed what those who threw him in prison wanted them to know.

Thanks for all the good information and for keeping this travesty of "justice" out there.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
9. ''Total Quality Service Isn’t Expensive, It’s Priceless''
Sat Aug 2, 2014, 04:21 PM
Aug 2014
The Pork Barrel World of Judge Mark Fuller

By Scott Horton
Harper's, Aug. 6, 2007

For the last week, we’ve been examining the role played by Judge Mark Everett Fuller in the trial, conviction, and sentencing of former Alabama Governor Don E. Siegelman. Today, we examine a post-trial motion, filed in April 2007, asking Fuller to recuse himself based on his extensive private business interests, which turn very heavily on contracts with the United States Government, including the Department of Justice.

The recusal motion rested upon details about Fuller’s personal business interests. On February 22, 2007, defense attorneys obtained information that Judge Fuller held a controlling 43.75% interest in government contractor Doss Aviation, Inc. After investigating these claims for over a month, the attorneys filed a motion for Fuller’s recusal on April 18, 2007. The motion stated that Fuller’s total stake in Doss Aviation was worth between $1-5 million, and that Fuller’s income from his stock for 2004 was between $100,001 and $1 million dollars.



In other words, Judge Fuller likely made more from his business income, derived from U.S. Government contracts, than as a judge. Fuller is shown on one filing as President of the principal business, Doss Aviation, and his address is shown as One Church Street, Montgomery, Alabama, the address of the Frank M. Johnson Federal Courthouse, in which his chambers are located.

fuller_chambers_address Doss Aviation, Inc. (motto: “Total Quality Service Isn’t Expensive, It’s Priceless”) and its subsidiary, Aureus International, hold contracts with a number of government agencies. Quoting from defense counsel’s motion for recusal (emphasis in the original):

Doss Aviation, Inc. has been awarded numerous federal military contracts from the United States government worth over $258,000,000, including but not limited to: An August 2002 contract with the Air Force for $30,474,875 for Helicopter Maintenance, a November 2003 contract with the Navy for $5,190,960 for aircraft refueling, a February 2006 contract with the Air Force for over $178,000,000 for training pilots and navigators, and a March 2006 contract with the Air Force for $4,990,541.28 for training at the United States Air Force Academy. The February 2006 contract with the Air Force for over $178,000,000 is for 10 ½ years, but is renewable from year to year . . .

An Enterprise Ledger article dated April 3, 2005, states that “FBI agents, military and civilian pilots and medical professionals all over the world wear (Aureus International) products which are cut, sewn, inspected, bagged and shipped from its home in Enterprise.”


Doss Aviation and its subsidiaries also held contracts with the FBI. This is problematic when one considers that FBI agents were present at Siegelman’s trial, and that Fuller took the extraordinary step of inviting them to sit at counsel’s table throughout trial. Moreover, while the case was pending, Doss Aviation received a $178 million contract from the federal government.

CONTINUED...

http://harpers.org/blog/2007/08/the-pork-barrel-world-of-judge-mark-fuller/

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
17. BFEE Judges really tick me off. Take Richard Leon. Please.
Sat Aug 2, 2014, 05:32 PM
Aug 2014
Fifty one years later, federal judge upholds the CIA’s right to keep JFK secrets

Jefferson Morley
JFKfacts.org, July 25, 2014

Ten years ago I filed a lawsuit seeking the records of a deceased CIA officer involved in the events leading up to the assassination of President Kennedy and its confusing investigatory aftermath.

On July 23 a federal judge ruled that the CIA did not have pay court costs associated with the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) litigation because the lawsuit had created “little, if any public benefit.”

The decision, by Judge Richard Leon, exemplifies the extraordinary deference that the CIA enjoys in the federal courts. Leon dismissed extensive newspaper coverage of the lawsuit and ignored the coverage of a key document it uncovered. He affirmed that the CIA’s conduct in keeping JFK assassination-related records secrets in 2014 was “reasonable.”

HIs narrow decision studiously avoids grappling with the wider story that my FOIA lawsuit sought to clarify: the untold story of CIA operations around accused presidential assassin Lee Oswald in the summer of 1963 and the agency’s subsequent obstruction of a congressional investigation in 1978.

The story of the late George Joannides is obviously relevant to the JFK story. In the course of my FOIA lawsuit, journalists and scholars and interested citizens learned that Joannides, a previously unknown CIA undercover operations officer, had not one, but two connections, to the JFK story that were unknown to the two official investigations of the murder of the liberal president in downtown Dallas on November 22, 1963.

CONTINUED...

http://jfkfacts.org/assassination/news/fifty-years-later-federal-judge-upholds-the-cias-right-to-keep-jfk-secrets/

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
25. U.S. District Judge Mark E. Fuller
Sun Aug 3, 2014, 11:33 AM
Aug 2014
From DonSiegelman.org:

Chief Judge Mark E. Fuller,
U.S. District Court for the Middle District of Alabama
and President of Doss Aviation

Mark Fuller, was appointed by President Bush and is a former
member of the Executive Committee of the Alabama Republican
Party. He presided over the Siegelman trial and refused to
recuse himself as judge in spite of a serious conflict of interest
as president of Doss Aviation that has major contracts with the
Department of Justice. So Fuller's client, the DOJ, is the party
bringing the case against Siegelman. Judge Fuller not only
ignored the number of serious conflicts of interest in this case,
he also diminished and defended serious jury mis-conduct.

Mark Fuller is the judge to whom the case was "shopped" when
Judge Clemons of the Northern District Birmingham dismissed it.
In fact, moving the case out of the district in which it was initiated
so as to evade the control of the federal judge to whom it was
assigned was the first clear-cut sign of prosecutorial misconduct
in the history of the Siegelman prosecution.

Federal Judge Mark Fuller denied motions for a new trial that
were based on claims by Siegelman and Scrushy that jurors
discussed the case through e-mails during 2006 two-month trial.

Fuller, in December 2006 ruled that juror actions on the Internet
did not warrant throwing out the bribery convictions. {See
content of one of the e-mails in the left bar.)

After harsh sentencing of Don Siegelman, Fuller explained that
“I am convinced the conduct Gov. Siegelman engaged in
damaged the public’s confidence in the government of this
state,” Fuller said.

<link to 14 blogs on Fuller at Harper's>

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
29. The conviction, imprisonment, and continued imprisonment of this poor innocent man is a national
Sun Aug 3, 2014, 12:24 PM
Aug 2014

shame, and this entire affair should undermine everyone's confidence in the efficacy and fairness of the American justice system.

Don Siegelman is an innocent imprisoned political prisoner, and President Obama can, and should, pardon him immediately. After all, he has given a large number of unspeakably wicked torturers and war criminals a free pass.

Is this like, some Orwellian reversal of Blackstone's formulation? Something like ~

"It is better to let a hundred guilty people go free, and make one innocent suffer."

Yeah, I know, I'm just being sanctimonious, right?

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
50. Manning, Siegelman, innocent people jailed, but we must not be sanctimonious about
Tue Aug 5, 2014, 08:55 AM
Aug 2014

war criminals. The world is upside down.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
26. There are many strange and un-investigated parties to this story: Roy Atchison, US Attorney...
Sun Aug 3, 2014, 11:41 AM
Aug 2014

...John David R. Atchison, the Alabama GOP father and husband, an Assistant U.S. Attorney in Florida, was arrested in Detroit after soliciting sex online. The sick and sordid story about a big shot praying on minors is one too few have heard about.

Atchison promised what he thought was the 5-year old girl's mother he wouldn't hurt the child -- stating he'd done it before. In reality, he was corresponding with an undercover deputy in Michigan. He showed up at the airport with toys. Originally from Alabama, the guy was a riser in the Dixie GOP. Like so many of the evil ilk, after his arrest he tried suicide in jail, the second time successfully.

I wondered if he was friends with Bob Riley, Mark Fuller and the rest of the Alabama Old GOP Boys. What Metacrawler turned up:



The Strange Tale of a Pedophile in the U.S. Justice Department

Legal Schnauzer, WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 29, 2010

The U.S. Department of Justice generated plenty of strange stories during the George W. Bush years. But one of the strangest involved John David "Roy" Atchison, an assistant U.S. attorney in Pensacola, Florida, who committed suicide after being caught in a pedophilia sting in Detroit.

Atchison's sad story has many connections to Birmingham and Alabama. And it raises this question: How did a guy with a shaky work record and a history of run-ins with the law get hired by the world's supposedly foremost crime-fighting organization? Did Atchison attain his lofty position because he had connections to powerful figures in the Alabama legal world?

Investigative journalist Margie Burns examines these questions, and much more, in a series of posts about the Atchison case at her blog, margieburns.com.

Burns begins with the actions that turned Atchison into a national figure in fall 2007:

This is not the story of a man who engaged in pedophilia for years or decades before being caught. It is the story of a man whipsawed by the strain of living up to a high-achieving family rooted in Birmingham, Ala., whose high-functioning connections assisted him for years in developing a career for which he turned out not to be suited. On Sept. 16, 2007, Assistant U.S. Attorney John David Roy Atchison, serving as a federal prosecutor in the Northern District of Florida, was arrested on credible charges of basically pedophilia. Atchison committed suicide in federal prison Oct. 5.

A dead pedophile might not sound like a tragedy. But Atchison was thought to be participating in a pedophile ring, and his death removed a useful informant from law enforcement resources. The question of how he was enabled to kill himself rather than being preserved for justice is one of the loose ends left hanging in his case.


CONTINUED 'though I wish it didn't...

http://legalschnauzer.blogspot.com/2010/09/strange-tale-of-pedophile-in-us-justice.html

[/div class="excerpt"]

Margie Burns detailed how the guy rose up through the GOP ranks, warts and all. When this is the kind of person gets to put people behind bars on behalf of Uncle Sam, these are worse than NAZI times.

For some reason, the First Amendment means less and less with each passing day. Only raising awareness of Legal Schnauzer's plight -- the guy who wrote about Mark Fuller the ENRON Judge -- can protect him from these satanic warmongers and traitors. It's up to us as, obviously, Alabama and the United States of America 2013 can't or won't.

PS: You are most welcome, Faux pas. Thank you for caring about Justice.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
28. The stuff makes sane people mad.
Sun Aug 3, 2014, 11:59 AM
Aug 2014

Before any real investigation in which to discover his varied connections, Atchison died in police custody, a suicide.

What's interesting, if that word can be used to describe anything to do with this guy, is his rise to power in the modern GOP.

Another case that is getting amazingly little exposure in the US mass media involves Jimmy Savile, the late BBC television host and very close chum of Prince Charles and Margaret Thacher, who molested thousands of children and was protected by UK authorities in the process.

Don't know the connections -- but I can see the parallels, one of which is the relationship between power and corruption. The reason I write about them is that I don't want the US and UK to continue down these "conservative" and Satanic paths.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
6. Siegelman's daughter has been spending so much of her time and energy trying to win
Sat Aug 2, 2014, 03:20 PM
Aug 2014

Her father's release. Such a tragedy. On all levels - that Siegelman has lost so many years of his life in jail, and that corruption like this is permitted, even during those months and months when we had a Democratic President back by a Democratic majority in Congress.

Well, those people had bigger more important concerns I guess.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
22. Karl Rove is responsible for this travesty of justice. We are told not to be
Sun Aug 3, 2014, 02:10 AM
Aug 2014

'sanctimonious' about War Criminal Torturers, but we have heard NOTHING from OUR PARTY about the wrongful conviction of this Democrat. Meantime the Obama DOJ overturned the conviction of Sen. Stevens because the trial was tainted, rightfully so, but THIS TAINTED trial was allowed to stand.

I am sick to death of politics in this country, it is SO corrupt that it is hardly worth the effort to even try to fix it.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
34. Rove laughed in public about this treason.
Sun Aug 3, 2014, 01:36 PM
Aug 2014

Please don't give up trying to fix it. That's what the BFEE want.



Continue to tell the TRUTH, sabrina 1. Not only will we win, we'll scare the hell out of Rove and his masters in the process.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
39. I won't Octafish, but sometimes the sheer magnitude of the corruption is mind boggling.
Sun Aug 3, 2014, 10:32 PM
Aug 2014

This should be a mission, this case, for Democrats until Siegelman is free, but that is not ENOUGH. It should not stop until Rove and his criminal cohorts who railroaded Don Siegelman have been prosecuted and JAILED.

We don't seem to accomplish much, we need to have some kind of focus, even if it is just this one case. The injustice of this is so painful to me, I find it hard to even think about at times, especially when I know that weasel Rove got away with it.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
33. Absolute Injustice, a Travesty of Just-Us.
Sun Aug 3, 2014, 01:32 PM
Aug 2014

There is no in-between Justice and Just-Us. It's one or the other.

In the present case, Gov. Siegelman has been railroaded by the United States Government.

Who holds such power? How did they, uh, get it? And how do they perpetuate it?

These are among the issues raised by this case -- the most important being Justice for Gov. Siegelman.

A good man -- a great Democrat with a great future -- and his family have lost years of life. While little comfort, they will be remembered in history as patriots who were on the side of Justice, the Constitution.

Thank you for grokking what this is about, truedelphi.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
7. And Obama and the Dem leadership still don't give a F...
Sat Aug 2, 2014, 03:35 PM
Aug 2014

Obama could pardon him tomorrow, with no, I repeat NO, political backlash that would matter. Alabama is a lost cause for the dems this year, and any repub outrage over this would just be lost in the general din coming from them.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
35. That is odd. Guess who got promoted for, eh, after resolving it?
Sun Aug 3, 2014, 01:39 PM
Aug 2014
Elena Kagan - Willing Accomplice

By Michael Collins

Then, when Siegelman appealed his case to the Supreme Court in 2009, President Obama's Attorney General dispatched Solicitor General Elena Kagan to argue against the appeal in November.

Before accepting the case, Elena Kagan knew or should have known: that the U.S. Attorney who began the Siegelman investigation was closely tied to Karl Rove; that Siegelman never benefited personally from the contribution to an education funding initiative; that the case was so outrageous, forty-four attorneys general petitioned Congress; and, that the presiding judge in the case owned a major interest in a defense firm that received a $178 million federal contract between Siegelman's indictment and trial, a massive conflict of interest.

Most revealing, before her argument against the former governor's appeal, Kagan knew or should have known the following. After two charges had been dropped in a 2009 appeal, Justice Department attorneys recommended a twenty year sentence instead of the seven years already rendered. Fewer offenses for sentencing meant thirteen additional years by the strange logic of federal justice.
Kagan knew or should have known all this and more. That didn't stop her from arguing that Don Siegelman should be kept in jail. ...

That judgment is that Elena Kagan was a willing accomplice in one of the most outrageous political prosecutions of our time. Why should anyone ever trust her?

Her nomination to the Supreme Court of the United States should be rejected unanimously.

SOURCE: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8614514

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
11. Travesty that Siegelman fell prey to all this shit. No matter how often you write, you're
Sat Aug 2, 2014, 04:37 PM
Aug 2014

ignored, year after year.

Fifty two former state Attorneys General from 40 of the
50 states, both Democrats and Republicans, submitted
a *petition urging the United States Congress to
investigate the circumstances surrounding the
investigation, prosecution, sentencing and detention of
Don Siegelman, the former Governor of Alabama.
They deserve a round of applause for standing up for
impartial, non-partisan justice!


http://www.donsiegelman.org/Pages/topics/ACTION/take_action_44_former_AG.html

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
36. Legal Schnauzer told the truth and got thrown in the slammer for it.
Sun Aug 3, 2014, 02:17 PM
Aug 2014

I hear you, Jefferson23. The reason the nation doesn't is who owns and operates Corporate McPravda.





Let Roger Shuler Go Before Christmas -- The Only Journalist Held Indefinitely In The US

By Jill Simpson and Jim March
OpEdNews Op Eds 12/23/2013 at 07:59:56

The Committee to Protect Journalists who are defending journalists worldwide recently announced their 2013 list of reporters imprisoned illegally around the world. As to be expected Turkey, Iran and China were at the top of the list but shamefully this time the USofA made the list as well due to the jailing of an Internet blogger named Roger Shuler in the state of Alabama.

Roger has been a key documenter of corruption in the United States since he took on the Don Siegelman story in 2007 and he has never let up. Roger has recently vowed from his jail cell that he will not retract the statements he has made about Rob Riley, son of recent former Governor Bob Riley. So what we are left with in America is a journalist indefinitely incarcerated by a specially appointed retired judge not duly elected to decide this case who was appointed by Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore known famously as the "10 Commandments" judge who was removed from the bench due to his mixture of church and state but re-elected by popular vote.

SNIP...

What concerns me about Roger Shuler's case is how they are indefinitely holding him. Clearly, if they want to punish Roger they should give him a sentence but instead it appears that in America these days we can now hold people for any amount of time if they do not do as the court wishes. So Roger sits in a jail cell in Shelby County Alabama with no knowledge of when he is to get out. Journalists all over the world are beginning to pick up his story as it appears this is the first time we have seen a journalist in the United States be treated like a Guantanamo Bay alleged terrorist. It is very Kafka-esque because we have a specially appointed non-elected judge, a secret hearing and sealed records. This is a nightmare for Roger Shuler's wife Carol and I'm sure any assistance anyone can give her would be welcome during this holiday season while her husband is indefinitely incarcerated in these United States because he refuses to take down a story he swears is true.

If we as citizens allow this to stand then we cannot complain about getting subverted media in the US. It is my request that everyone who reads this asks 100 friends to write and call Chief Justice Roy Moore at 334-229-0700 (address listed below) and ask him to show the Christian mercy he professes all over Alabama towards the only imprisoned journalist in the US, Roger Shuler.

As for Rob Riley, his attempt to suppress Roger's stories whether true or not has made him worldwide infamous for being the first to succeed at jailing an opposition journalist in the United States. It is frightening to think about Riley running for congress given this situation and Riley's questionable actions on the rights of journalists.

CONTINUED...

http://www.opednews.com/articles/Let-Roger-Shuler-Go-Before-by-JillSimpson-JimMar-Journalists-Detained_Journalists-Embedded_Journalists-Journalism_Roger-Shuler-131223-26.html



And the mainstream media, apart from one blip in the New York Times, were silent.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
38. It is so damn frustrating, and it is important for Americans not to forget about Siegelman.
Sun Aug 3, 2014, 03:05 PM
Aug 2014

Thank you for keeping up the focus.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
40. Then let's not let it be forgotten. Let's KEEP posting about it and talking about it
Sun Aug 3, 2014, 10:35 PM
Aug 2014

and emailing and writing about it until we GET THE PERPS, Rove et al. If we focused on just one thing at a time, maybe we might have some success.

And airc, even Republicans were outraged by what happened to Siegleman. There is an election coming up, how about we make THIS a huge issue during this election?

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
47. I don't know that you could persuade enough voters this should be a huge issue. I write, I call
Mon Aug 4, 2014, 10:55 PM
Aug 2014

in a less than organized way over the years and I will not forget him. I don't know how we
can mobilize this into the coming elections...I am all ears though.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
48. I know it wouldn't be easy, but EVERY mention of this case brings it into the public
Mon Aug 4, 2014, 11:06 PM
Aug 2014

consciousness. Eg, when working for a democratic candidate, ask that candidate if they are aware of this case. It would help to have an information package prepared to present to people who are not aware of it. Money would help of course, you can make anything an issue if you have enough money to do so.

This is one of the worst injustices perpetrated by Karl Rove et al of the past decade or more, and Democrats have dropped the ball on it. So the least we can do is ask them what they intend to do about it, MAKE it an issue. If hundreds of people raise it to those running for office, it will at least let them know it is important enough to voters to mention.

And each time someone posts an OP about it, links it to Twitter and FB more people learn about it.

I know there are so many other issues, but this isn't just about Siegelman, it is about a much bigger issue which is the Rule of Law and the corruption of our system of justice.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
12. K&R.
Sat Aug 2, 2014, 04:55 PM
Aug 2014

Can you spell the appearance of m-i-s-c-o-n-d-u-c-t.

Or maybe c-o-r-r-u-p-t-i-o-n. I'm not saying it was one of the other, but this judge's behavior certainly raises a strong suspicion of misconduct or corruption.

To get a retrial for Siegelman, that appearance of misconduct or corruption would have to be somehow linked to his case, seems to me. Does anyone have a different opinion on this?

Siegelman should be pardoned by Obama as soon as the 2014 election is over. It is terrible that Siegelman sits in jail while hundreds of politicians who have done precisely what he did or worse are free.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
44. The story and players...
Mon Aug 4, 2014, 09:33 AM
Aug 2014

On the right side, please scroll down to "LEGAL OPINION" for details of each trial:

http://www.donsiegelman.org/index.html

The cast...



http://www.donsiegelman.org/don-story_home.html

Thank you for grokking, JDPriestly. No matter what, corruption in office, like Adlai Stevenson said, is treason.

If good Democrats -- a governor with electoral chops and charisma in the South -- can get railroaded, no wonder the country can get lied into illegal, immoral, unnecessary and disastrous wars for profit without consequences.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
14. Does anyone really expect the administration to do anything to get Don Siegelman out of prison?
Sat Aug 2, 2014, 05:01 PM
Aug 2014

The same administration hasn't lifted a finger to get Legs Dimon or Pretty Boy Lloyd into prison.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
41. No, I don't, we are on our own, so let's do something. Let's make it an issue in this
Sun Aug 3, 2014, 10:39 PM
Aug 2014

election. This is a travesty beyond belief and Rove laughs because he knows we won't do anything about it. He is right, we don't focus, we jump from one thing to another, but THIS CASE, IF it was a focus of Dems, could bring down Rove. Obviously we are not going to 'get' them on war crimes, thanks Obama, but WE COULD get them on this.

So sick of it all. Sick of the bad guys winning all the time, sick of being part of a party that seems to be totally unable to DO ANYTHING about War Crimes, or about any kind of corruption. Sick of being told to 'suck it up, it's politics'. Just sick to death of all of it.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
52. Well, the Dow Jones is at 17,000, which is what really counts.
Tue Aug 5, 2014, 12:12 PM
Aug 2014


The Shocking Redistribution of Wealth in the Past Five Years

by Paul Buchheit
Published on Monday, December 30, 2013 by Common Dreams

Anyone reviewing the data is likely to conclude that there must be some mistake. It doesn't seem possible that one out of twenty American families could each have made a million dollars since Obama became President, while the average American family's net worth has barely recovered. But the evidence comes from numerous reputable sources.

Some conservatives continue to claim that President Obama is unfriendly to business, but the facts show that the richest Americans and the biggest businesses have been the main - perhaps only - beneficiaries of the massive wealth gain over the past five years.

1. $5 Million to Each of the 1%, and $1 Million to Each of the Next 4%

From the end of 2008 to the middle of 2013 total U.S. wealth increased from $47 trillion to $72 trillion. About $16 trillion of that is financial gain (stocks and other financial instruments).

The richest 1% own about 38 percent of stocks, and half of non-stock financial assets. So they've gained at least $6.1 trillion (38 percent of $16 trillion). That's over $5 million for each of 1.2 million households.

The next richest 4%, based on similar calculations, gained about $5.1 trillion. That's over a million dollars for each of their 4.8 million households.

The least wealthy 90% in our country own only 11 percent of all stocks excluding pensions (which are fast disappearing). The frantic recent surge in the stock market has largely bypassed these families.

2. Evidence of Our Growing Wealth Inequality

This first fact is nearly ungraspable: In 2009 the average wealth for almost half of American families was ZERO (their debt exceeded their assets).

In 1983 the families in America's poorer half owned an average of about $15,000. But from 1983 to 1989 median wealth fell from over $70,000 to about $60,000. From 1998 to 2009, fully 80% of American families LOST wealth. They had to borrow to stay afloat.

It seems the disparity couldn't get much worse, but after the recession it did. According to a Pew Research Center study, in the first two years of recovery the mean net worth of households in the upper 7% of the wealth distribution rose by an estimated 28%, while the mean net worth of households in the lower 93% dropped by 4%. And then, from 2011 to 2013, the stock market grew by almost 50 percent, with again the great majority of that gain going to the richest 5%.

Today our wealth gap is worse than that of the third world. Out of all developed and undeveloped countries with at least a quarter-million adults, the U.S. has the 4th-highest degree of wealth inequality in the world, trailing only Russia, Ukraine, and Lebanon.

3. Congress' Solution: Take from the Poor

Congress has responded by cutting unemployment benefits and food stamps, along with other 'sequester' targets like Meals on Wheels for seniors and Head Start for preschoolers. The more the super-rich make, the more they seem to believe in the cruel fantasy that the poor are to blame for their own struggles.

President Obama recently proclaimed that inequality "drives everything I do in this office." Indeed it may, but in the wrong direction.

FORUM HOSTS, PLEASE NOTE: This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 License.

Paul Buchheit is a college teacher, an active member of US Uncut Chicago, founder and developer of social justice and educational websites (UsAgainstGreed.org, PayUpNow.org, RappingHistory.org), and the editor and main author of "American Wars: Illusions and Realities" (Clarity Press). He can be reached at paul@UsAgainstGreed.org.

Original Article: http://www.commondreams.org/view/2013/12/30-0



Imprisoning banksters (and warmongers, war criminals, and traitors -- which are the same thing) won't do anyone who matters any good.

The reason is simple: The people who matter are banksters, warmongers, war criminals, and traitors.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
54. Thank you and thank you to Professor Buchheit
Tue Aug 5, 2014, 02:35 PM
Aug 2014

Sooner or later we will have to take on the establishment (banksters, war mongers, war criminals and traitors) as a whole without regard to partisan distinctions. In short, that means taking on the business establishment without paying any attention to the political establishment, which is becoming more and more irrelevant. The politicians don't listen to the voters, they listen to those who bribe them, i.e., those who contribute large sums of money to their campaigns. They think all they need to get re-elected is a lot of money.

This must of necessity be a non-violent campaign of civil disobedience. Since the only way to maintain this level of inequality is through a police state, that means be prepared to go to jail, to be beaten or tortured or even killed. However, our victory over the establishment is assured from the start. Why? Because no matter how they slice it, the system they are building to their benefit and only to their benefit is unsustainable. Capitalism cannot sustain itself without a middle class, they very same middle class that is being destroyed today in the name of what the advocates of the tyranny of the 1% call "liberty." If this is liberty, then it is the liberty of the wealthy to own slaves.

We have seen a preview of what "liberty" means to the establishment tyrants: Censored news, rigged elections, militarized police, government snooping on any Tom, Dick or Harry, denial of human rights like due process and fair trials or the right to organize for better pay and safer workplaces, all to be replaced by the unalienable right of corporations to make money. Free markets will be opened at the point of a gun, because otherwise no one would allow GMOs to be sold. Unfortunately, GMOs will be all that's available, because the law says farmers cannot save their seeds and when the wind blows one of Monsanto's weeds onto a farmer's field, then their is an implied contract between the farmer and Monsanto. I'll bet that's news to the farmer.

Against this, let us propose a campaign of civil disobedience. If they come back and tell us that general strikes are illegal, we'll just come back and remind them that once upon a time the Bill of Rights encouraged a free press, free and fair elections, the right to privacy from unreasonable government intrusion, the right to assemble and to associate. A right to a free public trial was guaranteed, and the right of a large corporation to make a profit was not; every businessman was expected to compete in the market place by selling a quality product at a reasonable price and the product was to be made in a production process that did not endanger the lives of the producers making the product or the neighbors of the factory. For the benefit of the misinformed, producers means those who actually work making a commodity, not those who pretend to work by counting money. If they tell us that it is against their law to refuse to fight in their imperialist wars, then we will just ask them what part of civil disobedience they do not understand.

Yes, our goal will be to overthrow the so-called "free trade" regime of corporate socialism that is replacing capitalism. By actively participating in the demise of an unsustainable system, we will assume the responsibility for replacing it with a sustainable system. For the immediate future, we have every right to sweep away the industrial/financial aristocracy that is only trying to hold on to its wealth in a port-industrial world, the oil and coal barons who are trying to keep the production of fossil fuel on life support; we have as much right sweep them aside as the French had to sweep away their Kings or the Russians had to sweep away there Emperors and the landed aristocracy that no more than a useless appendage of a post-feudal world. In the intermediate future, since we have already been through the struggle to end landed aristocracy and have seen the problem resulting from that struggle, let us this time proceed with caution and beware of the Robespierres or Stalins in our midst and not repeat those mistakes. Let us this time stand together with each other as brothers and sisters, not to some abstract ideas to which we sacrifice our own blood. We may not know the true shape the future will take, but it look better than our present.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
56. Federal Judge Mark E. Fuller arrested on domestic violence charge. Guy's out on bail already.
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 10:49 AM
Aug 2014
BE ON THE LOOKOUT:



ARMED AND DANGEROUS

Alabama judge out of Georgia jail after battery arrest

Associated Press – updated Monday, August 11, 2014 - 10:37pm

ATLANTA — A federal judge from Alabama has been released from an Atlanta jail after being arrested over the weekend on suspicion of hitting his wife.

U.S. District Court Judge Mark Fuller appeared Monday in a Fulton County court via video conference from the jail. He faces a misdemeanor battery charge after Atlanta police responded early Sunday to a reported altercation with his wife at the Ritz-Carlton hotel.

A magistrate judge set a $5,000 bond. Fuller is due back in court Aug. 22.

A nominee of President George W. Bush, Fuller has served in the Middle District of Alabama since 2002. The 55-year-old judge and former prosecutor is best known for presiding over former Alabama Gov. Don Siegelman's public corruption trial.
 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
19. Obama's failure to have DOJ reopen a full-blown Siegelman investigation stinks to high heaven
Sat Aug 2, 2014, 06:30 PM
Aug 2014

He didn't even TRY to do anything. In fact what Obama did was worse than nothing, he actively looked the other way while an honorable & innocent fellow Democrat rots in prison due to the dirty dealings of Bush The Lesser's bag-men.

In my book this is one of Obama's most egregious failures.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
42. And even worse than THAT, he DID look into Republican Sen. Stevens' case, while
Sun Aug 3, 2014, 10:41 PM
Aug 2014

ignoring Dem Don Siegelman, on charges of a tainted prosecution. And his DOJ overturned Stevens' conviction, correctly imo. But that case didn't even come close to the corruption involved in Siegelman's. So what is going on here??

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
57. It's weird. There was no corruption in Siegelman's case.
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 11:08 AM
Aug 2014

Siegelman appointed Scrushy to the same hospital board he'd sat on for other Alabama administrations.

This time, though, there was a problem in the form of Karl Rove and his toady, Mark E. Fuller.



Siegelman Case Involved No "Meeting Of The Minds," But Scrushy Still Spent Six Years In Federal Prison

LegalSchnauzer, Thursday, April 18, 2013

A fundamental element of a federal-funds bribery case is that the defendants have a "meeting of the minds" on a "something for something" deal known as a quid pro quo.

Former HealthSouth CEO Richard Scrushy was released from federal prison last summer after serving six years for bribing former Alabama Governor Don Siegelman. But Scrushy said he didn't have a "meeting of the minds" with Siegelman on any of the issues that prosecutors claim constituted a crime. In fact, Scrushy says, he didn't meet with Siegelman at all. That's largely because he barely knew Siegelman, he did not support his election campaigns, and he did not support the education lottery that was central to the governor's term--and ultimately, the government's criminal case.

How on earth did Scrushy get convicted for bribing a governor he hardly knew, did not support, and did not meet with--over a seat on a health-care regulatory board that Scrushy says he did not want? That might go down as one of the great mysteries in the history of American criminal law. To make it more stunning, Scrushy says the government got it wrong about the person he met with and the amount of money involved.

That is one of many revelations from Scrushy's recent interview with San Francisco-based radio host Peter B. Collins. We already have reported that key testimony from former Siegelman aide Nick Bailey was deeply flawed, and prosecutors offered to let Scrushy out of the case in exchange for false testimony against Siegelman. Now we learn that central "facts" in the government's story were wildly off target. A podcast of the full interview can be heard here.

Perhaps most important is this: The government said Scrushy bribed Siegelman for a seat on the Alabama Certificate of Need Board (CON), but Scrushy said he did not even want to be on the board. How do you bribe someone for something you do not want? Here is Scrushy, from the Collins interview:

When Governor Siegelman was elected, he asked me to serve (on the CON board), and I said no. I had no interest in serving. I had resigned under the previous governor, Fob James; I did not complete my three-year term under Fob James. . . . I didn’t want to go to the meetings, and I was tired of it.


SNIP...

In the interview with Collins, Scrushy still seems to have a hard time believing he was prosecuted, much less convicted, for actions that did not come close to meeting the definition of a federal bribe. He points a finger for the whole charade squarely at Republican strategist Karl Rove, who apparently wanted to make sure that Siegelman, a Democrat, could not continue to win races in a GOP stronghold:

(Siegelman) and I never had a conversation about any of this. The transition chief sat down with me and said, "Richard, you need to help. Everybody else is helping. You run a large corporation, and you need to help get these businessmen off that note. . . . " I felt a corporate duty for me to help too, but the question is, "Why weren't these other people [who helped] indicted . . . ?" It was politically convenient for them to pull me into this because of what I had been through at HealthSouth. . . .

Siegelman was going to win the governorship again, and Karl Rove didn’t want that to happen. (The governor and I) never had a conversation about, "Richard would you help me do this or that?" It just didn’t happen.


CONTINUED...

http://legalschnauzer.blogspot.com/2013/04/siegelman-case-involved-no-meeting-of.html



Scrushy spent six years in prison for doing nothing wrong. Oh, Obama DOJ asked Fuller to tack on 20 years to Siegelman's sentence.

Anybody else tired of waiting for Change, let alone Justice?

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
63. Thank you, no, there was no corruption in the Siegelman case. Is anyone else tired of waiting for
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 04:44 PM
Aug 2014

change, I think so, very tired. I can't imagine who someone like Don Siegelman feels or any other victim of Karl Rove. Something is drastically wrong when time after time that little weasel is allowed off the hook for his lies and corruption while good people end up in jail. And it's more than just accidental imo NOW. It appears to be policy.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
58. Didya hear what Judge Fuller did to his wife (allegedly cough Turdblossom furball)?
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 11:25 AM
Aug 2014
Alabama federal judge accused of hitting wife in argument

By Bill Barrow
The Associated Press, August 11, 2014

EXCERPT...

Atlanta police arrested Fuller early Sunday at the Ritz-Carlton hotel in downtown Atlanta after responding to a complaint from his wife, Kelli Fuller.

According to the police report, both the Fullers admit to an alteraction, but each blamed the other as the aggressor.

The report states that Kelli Fuller, 41, "answered the door in tears" and had visible cuts on her mouth and forehead when police arrived. They later documented bruises on her legs. Kelli Fuller was treated at the hotel by paramedics but refused to be taken to a hospital.

Police say the judge was on the bed when they entered the room, which smelled of alcohol. There was broken glass and hair on the floor. Blood was discovered in the bathroom.

Kelli Fuller told police that her husband became violent after she accused him of having an affair with a law clerk in his Montgomery office. She said he pulled her hair, threw her to the ground and dragged her, kicked her and struck her several times in the face.

CONTINUED...

http://www.tuscaloosanews.com/article/20140811/news/140819966

Just-Us.

Tsiyu

(18,186 posts)
37. The people of the South
Sun Aug 3, 2014, 02:54 PM
Aug 2014

will continue to suffer until they get rid of all of the evil Good Old Boys down here. But the people of the South are mostly cowards, who let the Good Old Boys run all over them, then they blame the Yankees and the liberals when they are run over.

They let guys like Haslam turn away unions, pay cash subsidies to corporations with a TN law stating the state DOES NOT HAVE TO TELL US how much these subsidies are.

What was done to Siegelman is par for the course down here.

Fuller is the typical pasty "Christian" who does whatever he wants, who thinks he's a Superhuman who will never pay.

I have seen karma hit guys lie Fuller real hard. I have no doubt he will get his due, and so will all of those who did this to Siegelman.

I wish the people of the South would say "enough" but so many of them go to churches where they are told they are worthless, and they seem to internalize this and will not fight for their own existence.

My heart goes out to those who love Mr. Siegelman, and to the man himself.

A pox on the Good Old Boys of Alabama



Octafish

(55,745 posts)
59. From your keypad to the Great Accountant...
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 12:32 PM
Aug 2014


Federal judge Mark Fuller released from Atlanta jail

Brian Lyman, Montgomery Advertiser 5:12 p.m. CDT August 11, 2014

U.S. District Judge Mark Fuller on Monday was released from an Atlanta jail after posting a $5,000 bond.

Fuller, a federal judge since 2002, was arrested early Sunday morning and charged with misdemeanor battery in connection with an alleged assault on his wife. An Atlanta police spokeswoman said the two had an altercation at the Ritz-Carlton Hotel in Atlanta; the victim was treated for injuries at the scene but declined to be taken to a local hospital.

Fulton County Sheriff's Office records show Fuller had a hearing on the case at 9 a.m. Monday. As of late Monday morning, he had been released.

The police report on the incident, first obtained by Decaturish, an Atlanta news site, said Fuller's wife showed evidence of lacerations to her mouth and forehead when the responding officer came. According to the report, the woman, who is not identified by name, confronted Fuller over issues in their marriage, including a belief that Fuller was having an affair with a law clerk.

&quot The victim) stated when she confronted him about their issues, he pulled her to the ground and kicked her," the report states. &quot The victim) also stated she was dragged around the room and Fuller hit her in the mouth several times with his hands."

According to the report, Fuller said his wife "threw a drink glass and a Sprite" at him when first confronting him, and that he grabbed her hair to defend himself.

"When asked about the lacerations to her mouth, Mr. Fuller stated that he just threw her to the ground and that was it," the report stated.

Fuller did not have any visible injuries, according to the report. The federal judge, 55, went through a divorce in 2012. The records in that case have been sealed.

CONTINUED...

http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/story/news/politics/southunionstreet/2014/08/11/judge-mark-fuller-released-from-atlanta-jail/13899869/

Karma is powerful.

Tsiyu

(18,186 posts)
65. LOL.....Some of my friends say,
Wed Aug 13, 2014, 03:53 AM
Aug 2014


"You do NOT want to get on Tsiyu's shit list."

Of course, I had nothing to do with it. It just works out that when you name an evil, it already decided its own fate.

Spent the day yesterday watching a Good Old Gal whose goal as a county DA is to get one million hours of jail/prison time on the books during her tenure as DA. Her mom is in real estate so I suppose to her, the goal of the criminal justice system is to be the "million dollar closer." Instead of property it's human freedom she wants to sell to the highest bidder.

If her county were full of hardened criminals, sure. But we're talking about a grown woman who knows that the drug laws are draconian, and that to achieve her life's goal, she must crush the poor under the weight of ridiculous sentences and fines for non-violent, petty rule-breaking.

Can you imagine that? Like she's going to one day met her creator and be told what a great job she did destroying families, taking away their hard-earned money and demanding it be paid to her, basically, rather than to their children or to their communities' businesses.

She thinks she's hot shit. She's gonna get extra prizes in heaven for being a heartless exploiter of the least of these. ( The people in her courtroom are never the ones who can afford these fees. The working poor, the disabled, these are the people she milks money off of so she can wear her pretty bling in court. )

I think she's gonna be told, " Yeah, um no. Your kind doesn't get paradise. In fact: you can GO STRAIGHT TO HELL."

We all gotta reap what we sow.

In Fuller's case, he's only begun to reap his troubles.

Cheers Octafish




Octafish

(55,745 posts)
60. Siegelman's Judge Charged With Beating Wife, Affair With Clerk
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 01:12 PM
Aug 2014

by Andrew Kreig
Justice Integrity Project, Aug. 11, 2014

EXCERPT.l..

Siegelman remains in prison on a six-year term that Fuller imposed with unusually harsh terms. Fuller refused the bond normally granted in white-collar cases during appeals, and ordered Siegelman paraded out of court in chains before the media. Siegelman, convicted primarily for reappointing a donor to a state board, was placed solitary confinement in various out-of-state prisons to keep him away from family and media inquiries.

The harsh sentence following many pro-prosecution rulings and courtroom irregularities by Fuller that have been approved by appellate judges and Justice Department officials.

Unprecedented protests by legal scholars, former prosecutors and outraged members of the public have failed to budge authorities to grant relief for Siegelman or probe his opponents like Fuller in any meaningful fashion, even though Fuller's career began in 2003 with an unrelated complaint seeking his impeachment for corruption.

Fuller's judicial status and his powerful political, business and media support have protected him despite serious professional and personal scandals documented here at the Justice Integrity Project site and elsewhere.

Fuller's business and professional ties to what President Eisenhower called "The Military Industrial Complex" in a 1961 Farewell Address have presented a secret and dangerous element of the power Fuller wields as judge. Among our findings are that Fuller while a judge secretly controlled unknown to the litigants facing him up to 44 percent of the stock of a military contractor, Doss Aviation, Inc., which Fuller formerly ran as CEO.

SNIP...

The gist then and now is that defense attorneys, legal scholars and whistleblowers have provided compelling evidence that prosecutors framed Siegelman for political reasons. Fuller rubber-stamped and often augmented the travesty, as did higher courts and both the Bush and Obama Justice Departments.

The record illustrates that the Bush and Obama administrations march in unison when it comes to protecting Fuller and the tainted prosecution of Siegelman.

CONTINUED w/incredible links n details n stuff...

http://www.justice-integrity.org/

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
61. Includes wife beaters...allegedly cough Turdblossom furball...
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 01:16 PM
Aug 2014

Ex-Mrs. Neil Bush recalled the time Neil told her she'd end up in a dark alley someplace:

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0412/S00164.htm

Similarly what the ex-Mrs. Fuller knows could really be something.

http://legalschnauzer.blogspot.com/2010/02/veteran-investigator-calls-for.html

If these guys treat the women they are and were married to with violence, imagine what they think of the "Little People" women.


MinM

(2,650 posts)
55. JFK had RFK go down to Atlanta to get MLK out of jail in 1960
Tue Aug 5, 2014, 03:40 PM
Aug 2014

HBO documentary called 'Sing Your Song' about the life of Harry Belafonte.

It covers his life especially during the early Civil Rights movement.

I never knew this, but he goes onto saying in the documtary that in 1960, MLK was arrested in Atlanta for a traffic stop but they trumped up charges and were going to sentence him to work on the chain gang.

Belafonte and others in the movement went to the 2 running Presidential candidates and Nixon ignored them, while the Kennedys did something. JFK made RFK go down to Atlanta and got MLK out of jail.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/101750488

54 years ago JFK sent RFK down to Atlanta .. Time for Obama to send Holder down to Alabama.
 

CanSocDem

(3,286 posts)
62. The sad thing is...
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 04:33 PM
Aug 2014


...we now know what happens when you 'cross the boss'. As I'm sure the WH is aware...



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Octafish

(55,745 posts)
64. President Kennedy integrated the Secret Service and FBI.
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 04:50 PM
Aug 2014

Abraham Bolden, the first African American agent to serve on the White House SS detail, reported his supervisor welcomed him with hatred and open racism in this interview with Thom Hartmann:



PS: Thank you for the heads-up on that interview with Harry Belafonte. He is a Democrat who knows what being a Democrat is about.


MinM

(2,650 posts)
70. Yes .. Abraham Bolden was arrested for his efforts.
Mon Aug 18, 2014, 02:02 PM
Aug 2014
Abraham Bolden was a Secret Service agent who had asked to leave the White House in 1961. He did not care for the lackadaisical practices of the White House detail. (p. 200) On October 30, 1963 Bolden was in Chicago when the local agents were briefed on what they knew about an attempt being planned on JFK's life there. After Vallee's arrest and the foiling of the plot, Bolden felt a foreboding about Kennedy's upcoming trip to Dallas. When Kennedy was killed, Bolden noted the similarities between what had occurred in Dallas and what almost occurred in Chicago. In May of 1964 he was in Washington for a Secret Service training program. (p. 215)

He tried to contact the Warren Commission about what he knew. The day after his call to J. Lee Rankin, he was sent back to Chicago. Upon his arrival he was arrested. The pretense was that he was trying to sell Secret Service files to a counterfeiter. Upon his arraignment he was formally charged with fraud, obstruction of justice, and conspiracy. (Ibid) Needless to say, Bolden was convicted based upon perjured testimony. (The phony witness later admitted this himself.)

He was imprisoned at Springfield where he was placed in a psychiatric unit. (p. 216) He was given mind-numbing drugs. But other inmates alerted him to the nature of the drugs in advance. So he knew how to fake taking the pills. While in prison, his family endured a bombing of their home, setting fire to their garage, and a sniper shooting through their window. Mark Lane, while working for Garrison, visited him in 1967. Lane then wrote about Bolden's knowledge of the plot in Chicago. When the prison authorities learned about this, they placed Bolden in solitary confinement. He was finally released in 1969...

http://www.ctka.net/2008/jfk_unspeakable.html

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
71. His book, ''The Echo from Dealey Plaza,'' made my heart feel like it weighs 140,000 tons.
Mon Aug 18, 2014, 03:34 PM
Aug 2014
http://www.echofromdealeyplaza.net/

Secret Service Agent Abraham Bolden endured the most vile form of racism -- from allegedly "educated" government servants while in the Secret Service. After the assassination, he stepped forward and volunteered what he knew about the Chicago Plot -- something that casts a very different light on the events in Dallas. For his trouble stepping forward and attempting -- he never was interviewed -- to contact the Warren Commission, he was railroaded on the testimony of a corrupt informer, a man Bolden had helped send to prison.

The great author Edwin Black wrote about the Chicago Plot back in 1976. The article is available online in PDF form:

http://thechicagoplot.com/The%20Chicago%20Plot.pdf

PS: Thank you, MinM.

MinM

(2,650 posts)
69. President Obama and AG Holder discuss the Siegelman Case
Mon Aug 18, 2014, 01:55 PM
Aug 2014

and Ferguson ..


Perhaps more Ferguson.

Uncle Joe

(58,355 posts)
67. I've already kicked and recommended this one, so I can only kick it now.
Wed Aug 13, 2014, 04:29 AM
Aug 2014

With apologies to Nathan Hale, I regret that I have only one recommend to give for my country.

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