I am not aware that anyone living in Gaza would not mention Israel due to a lack
of recognition of their state, if that is what you meant.
What I meant is the words I saw translated. It was not mentioned. I don't know why the reporter or the translator would leave that out of the video.
Hamas and others in the past, and other nations, do not 'recognize' Israel as anything but a burden put on them by Europe, or an outlaw nation, and now as a terrorist nation. In that lens, nothing they did, do or will ever do will ever be 'recognized' as legitimate so people seek sources to verify that belief.
Likewise, the Israeli state does not 'recognize' the Palestinian state in any form because they believe they were rightfully put there by history, and not as a favor from Europe or the USA. And the USA had nothing to do with the founding of the state, and Israel doesn't feel it owes us anything. They don't live or die on our dime from what I've read.
But the second largest population of Jews in the world lives in the USA, just barely behind Israel, if we are going to equate the reasons we support them:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_population_by_country
Although I believe our support for Israel is based more upon the American job as assigned by the Allies of WW2 to keep the 'status quo' going. It has not all been an evil thing, but a lot of it has. To be replaced by what - not love and peace at this time in the world, apparently. Under Obama we've been hands off and people are still slaughtering each other for land and resources, as always.
Okay, drifted off topic.
Back to recognizing states:
There is no reason to say automatically that the people of Gaza recognize or don't recognize Israel as if it was any importance, but you found something in that statement. They don't need to, understand?
No more than when most Americans speak of the USA, do they 'recognize' the native tribes and their opinion as of any account.
No more than Russia and China and Canada and nations to the south, or in the Pacific or Africa, not even those not under the control of European cultures, 'recognize' the indigenous people in their nations.
Some native Americans have told me they do not 'recognize' the USA, Canada or Mexico, etc. as legitimate nations. They call them fictions and say the land all belongs to them and they're waiting to see us assimilate to their ways. I'd always thought that would be a good idea, but that's just me, perhaps.
See how complicated this all becomes, and how we are narrowing our focus not to history, but what we are told in the media? But wait - that doe not require proof, as it's an opinion.
I think the disparate life experiences of people posting at DU is a source of conflict due to differing educations and reliance on media sources. I don't look at media as much more than a device to hype public opinion for the profit of those who own the media. When we look at who owns what, and what their financial interest is, it's very telling. I see every story, especially sensational ones, that way.
But I don't usually post on these threads, as I don't do 'evil, evil' whoever the 'devil du jour' media sells. I look more to the history and connections between the people having disputes and fighting with each other.
Perhaps people in the videos didn't mention Israel for positive reasons that lead to reconciliation. They may not have said anything about Israel if they didn't see themselves as as separate from Israelis. Maybe they are not falling for propaganda.
I've read on DU that there are different nationalities living in Gaza, and likely they are all undergoing the same horrific experiences which connects them with people worldwide. What I saw in the videos was a civilized people with good infrastructure being ruined, and valuing their city. That should give any group that disrespects them pause. Just like the days when the American human shields went to Baghdad and we saw them there in the side walk cafes showing us a side of Iraqi life the media didn't want us to see, as it didn't fit their bloodthirsty narrative. It made them human just as these videos have made the people of Gaza human to the world. The ones calling for blood in any conflict, are not showing what is worth protecting. Civil society is worth saving because it allows people freedom.
We learn a lot about the world here, but we also tend to bash each other without giving the other a chance to examine their thinking process as they seek a conclusion of how best to act to change things for the better.
Once again, I thank you for a respectful response.
EOM.
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