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An Instagram post by an Israel Defense Forces sniper boasts of murdering 13 Gazan children in one day. An IDF Combat Engineering Corps Soldier, specifically, David D. Ovadia posed with a Barrett .50 caliber sniper rifle.
Ovadia posted his comments on the Instagram account of Palestinian Sherrii ElKaderi.
The image was quickly screen captured in case Ovadia came to his senses and realized that he could be prosecuted for his admission of war crimes. It is unclear and perhaps unlikely that the Barrett was used in the commission of such crimes, as this weapon is usually reserved for the best of the best marksmen. In any event, Ovadia is in active deployment and openly confesses to killing Gazan civilian children. While not specifying what weapon he used, the posting of himself with the .50 caliber rifle was obviously meant to be visually intimidating to Palestinians.
In the mean time, while more information is gathered on Ovadia, the hacktivist group Anonymous took control of his Instagram account, deleting it entirely. For good measure Anonymous sources said that they hacked the websites of the Mossad intelligence agency in Israel for the brave IDF Sniper, in reference to Ovadia. By 11:30, they had taken down the Israeli Ministry of Defense as well, and similarly attributed it as a response to Ovadias confessions.
Read more: http://countercurrentnews.com/2014/07/idf-sniper-admits-on-instagram-to-murdering-13-gaza-children/
Jail Time For Israeli Sniper Who Bragged About Shooting Children
As we said from the beginning, it was unclear and perhaps unlikely that the Barrett was used in the commission of such crimes, as this weapon is usually reserved for the best of the best marksmen. But Ovadias posting of himself with the .50 caliber rifle was obviously meant to be visually intimidating to Palestinians.
As Israeli, Iranian, European and pretty much everyone but U.S. media outlets (save the International Business Times), took our report seriously, the IDF began doing an investigation of their own. Ovadias initial plea was that his account had been hacked, a claim which many proponents of the IDF incursion into Gaza quickly jumped on, as we had reported the hacktivist group Anonymous took control of his Instagram account, deleting it entirely after our report first broke.
Ovadia thought that would be the end of it. Within hours, armies of self-described debunkers flooded social media, claiming that this was a hoax. But the IDF investigators still smelled something funny about Ovadias professions of innocence. They pressed on with their questioning, only to catch him in a number of lies. Finally, Ovadia confessed to having made the post, and quickly deleting it once it was clear he was going to get in trouble for his hateful comments.
Source: http://countercurrentnews.com/2014/08/jail-time-for-israeli-sniper-who-bragged-about-shooting-children/
JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)It's expressing an underlying truth about attitudes within the IDF and Israeli society, however.
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customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)Galraedia
(5,025 posts)Which is a pretty messed up thing to publicly brag about. Whether or not he did it with the weapon he's posing with is irrelevant. He never said he killed them with the weapon in the photo. He's just bragging about having killed 13 children.
NealK
(1,867 posts)4now
(1,596 posts)It is getting hard to keep up with all the atrocities that Israel has committed against it's neighbors.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)But it does get you 30 days in prison if it is this hateful.
Galraedia
(5,025 posts)All we know is that he admitted to killing 13 children and that he admits to posting the photo and making the comment that he killed 13 children.
JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)Whether or not the crimes are imagined, whether or not the bragging is actionable. In this case, he's bragging about (presumably) imagined war crimes while participating in a force that's committing real ones. IDF action on that day surely killed thirteen and more children on the flimsiest of pretexts. And whatever he may have done, he's publicly expressing something he feels is socially sanctionable within his in-group.
JI7
(89,249 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)He confessed to making the twitter post and lying about killing children in order to seem like a "tough guy" and to intimidate Palestinian-supporting twitterers.
He rightly received a 30 day jail sentence for his tweet
If you read Hebrew, learn more here:
http://www.mako.co.il/nexter-internet/social-networks-twitter/Article-326094638209741006.htm?sCh=3d385dd2dd5d4110&pId=1898243326
Galraedia
(5,025 posts)We don't know if he killed 13 children or if he lied about killing 13 children. All we know is that he is actively deployed, claims to have killed 13 children, lied about posting the comments before confessing to actually making them, and now claims he was just lying about killing 13 children. He's not really the most credible source for honesty.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)He confessed to sending the tweet and said the content of the tweet was bs.
Far from "openly confessing to killing Gazan civilian children" - he has in fact done the exact opposite.
Galraedia
(5,025 posts)He also openly confessed to killing 13 children in that tweet. I'm not sure what part of that you don't understand but most people would take that kind of thing more seriously. But I guess you must live in Israel where claiming to have murdered 13 Palestinian children while actively deployed is okay.
Logical
(22,457 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)Elizabeth Tsurkov @Elizrael
IDF soldier who claimed to have killed 13 children is not even in Gaza. He was sentenced to 30 days in military jail
Full article (Hebrew):
http://www.mako.co.il/nexter-internet/social-networks/Article-326094638209741006.htm?Partner=rss
abelenkpe
(9,933 posts)Authorities? He's an admitted liar. So good of you and the authorities to believe him only guilty of boasting and not murder. We live in f'd up world if someone who would boast of such atrocities would ever be handed a weapon again.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)There are an endless number of horrible tweets out there. Many of which are BS.
This guy was put in prison for his awful tweet. Most never are.
4now
(1,596 posts)REP
(21,691 posts)cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)Galraedia
(5,025 posts)REP
(21,691 posts)On the Internet, no one knows you're a dog.
Galraedia
(5,025 posts)REP
(21,691 posts)People lie about shit. All the time.
politicman
(710 posts)The fact that an Israeli soldier on active duty felt comfortable enough to make that claim whether its really true or not is the main story here.
Israel has been allowed to get away with so much over the years, that its own soldiers think there are no consequences for any actions that they take, whether it be actually killing 13 children or mis-leadingly boasting about killing 13 children.
The fact that an active duty soldier felt like boasting about killing 13 children is the issue, is this consistent with having the most moral army in the world?
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Galraedia
(5,025 posts)But I guess admitting to posting a comment bragging on the internet that you killed 13 Palestinian children while actively deployed isn't a big deal to some people.
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Galraedia
(5,025 posts)The fact is that he's actively deployed and bragged about killing 13 innocent children. You don't get to brag about murdering children, say "Opps, no I was just kidding", and then expect everyone to just brush it off like it's no big deal. Hundreds of innocent Palestinian children have been killed this past month and this asshole may or may not have been responsible for intentionally targeting 13 of them. This isn't something you joke about like it's no big deal. It shows a complete lack of discipline in the IDF and disrespect toward those in Gaza that have lost their children.
Takket
(21,566 posts)regnaD kciN
(26,044 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)Not often a person gets sent to prison for one of those.
Galraedia
(5,025 posts)Then you just get to say, "Yeah, I posted that but opps I was just lying" and it's a slap on the wrist. He is an active member of the Israeli military and the Israeli military should show zero tolerance for this kind of behavior. He should be discharged and fully investigated.
m-lekktor
(3,675 posts)whistler162
(11,155 posts)against the 8th Amendment!
Paladin
(28,257 posts)It's a facetious question on my part---but there sure seems to be a lot of talk about the gun, whether or not it was used, etc.
I hope to hell this matter is investigated and that punishment is meted out, as warranted. Stupid and cruel for that soldier to post that message.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)It was a nasty BS hateful post he made up and has been jailed for.
But this story is gaining traction among those who really want to believe it.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)The sentiment is what remains clear enough indefensible, irrefutable.
Impressive looking weapon though.......
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)This is disgusting.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)A well placed shot with the usual Remington .308 has the same results- a dead human.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)greytdemocrat
(3,299 posts)have a thing called a scope attached to them...