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Galraedia

(5,025 posts)
Sat Aug 9, 2014, 06:59 PM Aug 2014

IDF Sniper Admits On Instagram To Murdering 13 Gaza Children



An Instagram post by an Israel Defense Forces sniper boasts of murdering 13 Gazan children in one day. An IDF Combat Engineering Corps Soldier, specifically, David D. Ovadia posed with a Barrett .50 caliber sniper rifle.

Ovadia posted his comments on the Instagram account of Palestinian Sherrii ElKaderi.

The image was quickly screen captured in case Ovadia came to his senses and realized that he could be prosecuted for his admission of war crimes. It is unclear and perhaps unlikely that the Barrett was used in the commission of such crimes, as this weapon is usually reserved for the best of the best marksmen. In any event, Ovadia is in active deployment and openly confesses to killing Gazan civilian children. While not specifying what weapon he used, the posting of himself with the .50 caliber rifle was obviously meant to be visually intimidating to Palestinians.

In the mean time, while more information is gathered on Ovadia, the “hacktivist” group “Anonymous” took control of his Instagram account, deleting it entirely. For “good measure” Anonymous sources said that they hacked the websites of the Mossad intelligence agency in Israel “for the brave IDF Sniper”, in reference to Ovadia. By 11:30, they had taken down the Israeli Ministry of Defense as well, and similarly attributed it as a response to Ovadia’s confessions.

Read more: http://countercurrentnews.com/2014/07/idf-sniper-admits-on-instagram-to-murdering-13-gaza-children/

Jail Time For Israeli Sniper Who Bragged About Shooting Children

For her part, ElKaderi has tirelessly confirmed the post by the IDF soldier, even who boasted of murdering 13 Gazan children in one day. An IDF Combat Engineering Corps Soldier, specifically, Ovadia posed with a Barrett .50 caliber sniper rifle, taunting the Palestinian ElKaderi with the now famous screen captured post.

As we said from the beginning, it was unclear and perhaps unlikely that the Barrett was used in the commission of such crimes, as this weapon is usually reserved for the best of the best marksmen. But Ovadia’s posting of himself with the .50 caliber rifle was obviously meant to be visually intimidating to Palestinians.

As Israeli, Iranian, European and pretty much everyone but U.S. media outlets (save the International Business Times), took our report seriously, the IDF began doing an investigation of their own. Ovadia’s initial plea was that his account had been “hacked”, a claim which many proponents of the IDF incursion into Gaza quickly jumped on, as we had reported the “hacktivist” group ”Anonymous” took control of his Instagram account, deleting it entirely after our report first broke.

Ovadia thought that would be the end of it. Within hours, armies of self-described “debunkers” flooded social media, claiming that this was a “hoax”. But the IDF investigators still smelled something funny about Ovadia’s professions of innocence. They pressed on with their questioning, only to catch him in a number of lies. Finally, Ovadia confessed to having made the post, and quickly deleting it once it was clear he was going to get in trouble for his hateful comments.

Source: http://countercurrentnews.com/2014/08/jail-time-for-israeli-sniper-who-bragged-about-shooting-children/
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IDF Sniper Admits On Instagram To Murdering 13 Gaza Children (Original Post) Galraedia Aug 2014 OP
It's probably not true. JackRiddler Aug 2014 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Aug 2014 #3
An overly aggressive circumcision? n/t customerserviceguy Aug 2014 #46
It still doesn't change the fact that he admitted to killing 13 children. Galraedia Aug 2014 #6
Absolutely, I totally agree. NealK Aug 2014 #36
More Israeli war crimes 4now Aug 2014 #2
Making stuff up is not a war crime oberliner Aug 2014 #7
We don't know if he made it up though. Galraedia Aug 2014 #8
Bragging about war crimes is its own evil. JackRiddler Aug 2014 #32
i thought this was fake JI7 Aug 2014 #4
He was full of crap oberliner Aug 2014 #5
Ovadia is in active deployment and openly confesses to killing Gazan civilian children. Galraedia Aug 2014 #10
Not true oberliner Aug 2014 #12
He confessed to sending a tweet saying that he killed 13 children Galraedia Aug 2014 #15
So you believe the retraction 100% but do not believe the initial claim? n-t Logical Aug 2014 #21
He wasn't in Gaza oberliner Aug 2014 #25
Who wouldn't retract such a claim to abelenkpe Aug 2014 #22
Have you ever been on Twitter? oberliner Aug 2014 #24
I am sure the IDF will thoroughly investigate 4now Aug 2014 #9
I believe everything I read on Twitter, too!!11 REP Aug 2014 #11
Hey. If it's on Twitter... it's twoo. They're not allowed to post things that ain't twoo. n/t cherokeeprogressive Aug 2014 #13
Because saying you murdered 13 Palestinian children while actively deployed is no big deal. Galraedia Aug 2014 #16
On Twitter, I'm Queen Marie of Romania REP Aug 2014 #17
He already confessed to making that tweet. Galraedia Aug 2014 #19
I just confessed to being Queen Marie of Romania REP Aug 2014 #23
feeling like he can boast about it while on active duty is the real issue.. politicman Aug 2014 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author guyton Aug 2014 #34
I believe that some guy just admitted to posting on the internet that he killed 13 children. Galraedia Aug 2014 #41
This message was self-deleted by its author guyton Aug 2014 #42
An idiot posting about something he may or may not have done. Galraedia Aug 2014 #44
what a charming young man. Takket Aug 2014 #14
I wonder how many minutes in prison he'll get? regnaD kciN Aug 2014 #18
30 days for an instagram post oberliner Aug 2014 #26
Apparently not if you're bragging about murdering 13 Palestinian children while actively deployed Galraedia Aug 2014 #45
Joan Rivers would embrace him! nt m-lekktor Aug 2014 #20
In the U.S. that would be whistler162 Aug 2014 #33
How's the Barrett .50 cal. sniper rifle doing? Paladin Aug 2014 #27
Headline is a lie: Not a sniper, wasn't in Gaza oberliner Aug 2014 #28
The post acknowledges it is unclear if he was posted in Gaza or was spouting off..in jail? Fred Sanders Aug 2014 #30
Terrorism by the IDF is part of the strategy. Fred Sanders Aug 2014 #29
Were there 13 corpses to back up this asshole's claim? Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2014 #35
K&R NealK Aug 2014 #37
Who cares if the Barrett .50 was used? awoke_in_2003 Aug 2014 #38
What a charming young man the Light Unto Nations has produced! Scootaloo Aug 2014 #39
Most sniper rifles greytdemocrat Aug 2014 #40
Good catch. nt msanthrope Aug 2014 #43
 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
1. It's probably not true.
Sat Aug 9, 2014, 07:05 PM
Aug 2014

It's expressing an underlying truth about attitudes within the IDF and Israeli society, however.

Response to JackRiddler (Reply #1)

Galraedia

(5,025 posts)
6. It still doesn't change the fact that he admitted to killing 13 children.
Sat Aug 9, 2014, 07:22 PM
Aug 2014

Which is a pretty messed up thing to publicly brag about. Whether or not he did it with the weapon he's posing with is irrelevant. He never said he killed them with the weapon in the photo. He's just bragging about having killed 13 children.

4now

(1,596 posts)
2. More Israeli war crimes
Sat Aug 9, 2014, 07:14 PM
Aug 2014

It is getting hard to keep up with all the atrocities that Israel has committed against it's neighbors.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
7. Making stuff up is not a war crime
Sat Aug 9, 2014, 07:22 PM
Aug 2014

But it does get you 30 days in prison if it is this hateful.

Galraedia

(5,025 posts)
8. We don't know if he made it up though.
Sat Aug 9, 2014, 07:31 PM
Aug 2014

All we know is that he admitted to killing 13 children and that he admits to posting the photo and making the comment that he killed 13 children.

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
32. Bragging about war crimes is its own evil.
Sat Aug 9, 2014, 09:40 PM
Aug 2014

Whether or not the crimes are imagined, whether or not the bragging is actionable. In this case, he's bragging about (presumably) imagined war crimes while participating in a force that's committing real ones. IDF action on that day surely killed thirteen and more children on the flimsiest of pretexts. And whatever he may have done, he's publicly expressing something he feels is socially sanctionable within his in-group.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
5. He was full of crap
Sat Aug 9, 2014, 07:22 PM
Aug 2014

He confessed to making the twitter post and lying about killing children in order to seem like a "tough guy" and to intimidate Palestinian-supporting twitterers.

He rightly received a 30 day jail sentence for his tweet

If you read Hebrew, learn more here:

http://www.mako.co.il/nexter-internet/social-networks-twitter/Article-326094638209741006.htm?sCh=3d385dd2dd5d4110&pId=1898243326

Galraedia

(5,025 posts)
10. Ovadia is in active deployment and openly confesses to killing Gazan civilian children.
Sat Aug 9, 2014, 07:55 PM
Aug 2014

We don't know if he killed 13 children or if he lied about killing 13 children. All we know is that he is actively deployed, claims to have killed 13 children, lied about posting the comments before confessing to actually making them, and now claims he was just lying about killing 13 children. He's not really the most credible source for honesty.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
12. Not true
Sat Aug 9, 2014, 08:04 PM
Aug 2014

He confessed to sending the tweet and said the content of the tweet was bs.
Far from "openly confessing to killing Gazan civilian children" - he has in fact done the exact opposite.

Galraedia

(5,025 posts)
15. He confessed to sending a tweet saying that he killed 13 children
Sat Aug 9, 2014, 08:36 PM
Aug 2014

He also openly confessed to killing 13 children in that tweet. I'm not sure what part of that you don't understand but most people would take that kind of thing more seriously. But I guess you must live in Israel where claiming to have murdered 13 Palestinian children while actively deployed is okay.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
25. He wasn't in Gaza
Sat Aug 9, 2014, 09:34 PM
Aug 2014

Elizabeth Tsurkov ‏@Elizrael

IDF soldier who claimed to have killed 13 children is not even in Gaza. He was sentenced to 30 days in military jail

Full article (Hebrew):

http://www.mako.co.il/nexter-internet/social-networks/Article-326094638209741006.htm?Partner=rss

abelenkpe

(9,933 posts)
22. Who wouldn't retract such a claim to
Sat Aug 9, 2014, 08:57 PM
Aug 2014

Authorities? He's an admitted liar. So good of you and the authorities to believe him only guilty of boasting and not murder. We live in f'd up world if someone who would boast of such atrocities would ever be handed a weapon again.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
24. Have you ever been on Twitter?
Sat Aug 9, 2014, 09:26 PM
Aug 2014

There are an endless number of horrible tweets out there. Many of which are BS.

This guy was put in prison for his awful tweet. Most never are.

 

politicman

(710 posts)
31. feeling like he can boast about it while on active duty is the real issue..
Sat Aug 9, 2014, 09:39 PM
Aug 2014

The fact that an Israeli soldier on active duty felt comfortable enough to make that claim whether its really true or not is the main story here.

Israel has been allowed to get away with so much over the years, that its own soldiers think there are no consequences for any actions that they take, whether it be actually killing 13 children or mis-leadingly boasting about killing 13 children.

The fact that an active duty soldier felt like boasting about killing 13 children is the issue, is this consistent with having the most moral army in the world?

Response to Galraedia (Reply #19)

Galraedia

(5,025 posts)
41. I believe that some guy just admitted to posting on the internet that he killed 13 children.
Sat Aug 9, 2014, 10:12 PM
Aug 2014

But I guess admitting to posting a comment bragging on the internet that you killed 13 Palestinian children while actively deployed isn't a big deal to some people.

Response to Galraedia (Reply #41)

Galraedia

(5,025 posts)
44. An idiot posting about something he may or may not have done.
Sat Aug 9, 2014, 11:09 PM
Aug 2014

The fact is that he's actively deployed and bragged about killing 13 innocent children. You don't get to brag about murdering children, say "Opps, no I was just kidding", and then expect everyone to just brush it off like it's no big deal. Hundreds of innocent Palestinian children have been killed this past month and this asshole may or may not have been responsible for intentionally targeting 13 of them. This isn't something you joke about like it's no big deal. It shows a complete lack of discipline in the IDF and disrespect toward those in Gaza that have lost their children.

Galraedia

(5,025 posts)
45. Apparently not if you're bragging about murdering 13 Palestinian children while actively deployed
Sat Aug 9, 2014, 11:22 PM
Aug 2014

Then you just get to say, "Yeah, I posted that but opps I was just lying" and it's a slap on the wrist. He is an active member of the Israeli military and the Israeli military should show zero tolerance for this kind of behavior. He should be discharged and fully investigated.

Paladin

(28,257 posts)
27. How's the Barrett .50 cal. sniper rifle doing?
Sat Aug 9, 2014, 09:37 PM
Aug 2014

It's a facetious question on my part---but there sure seems to be a lot of talk about the gun, whether or not it was used, etc.

I hope to hell this matter is investigated and that punishment is meted out, as warranted. Stupid and cruel for that soldier to post that message.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
28. Headline is a lie: Not a sniper, wasn't in Gaza
Sat Aug 9, 2014, 09:37 PM
Aug 2014

It was a nasty BS hateful post he made up and has been jailed for.

But this story is gaining traction among those who really want to believe it.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
30. The post acknowledges it is unclear if he was posted in Gaza or was spouting off..in jail?
Sat Aug 9, 2014, 09:39 PM
Aug 2014

The sentiment is what remains clear enough indefensible, irrefutable.

Impressive looking weapon though.......

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
38. Who cares if the Barrett .50 was used?
Sat Aug 9, 2014, 10:03 PM
Aug 2014

A well placed shot with the usual Remington .308 has the same results- a dead human.

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