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grahamhgreen

(15,741 posts)
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 03:41 PM Aug 2014

We are being attacked by ISIS!

"Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, IT IS THE LEADERS of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is TELL THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. IT WORKS THE SAME IN ANY COUNTRY."

--Goering at the Nuremberg Trials


At least that's what I heard on the Sunday morning show.... Here's Peter King from MTP today:

"Every day that goes by, ISIS builds up this caliphate, and it becomes a direct threat to the United States. They are more powerful now than al-Qaeda was on 9-11. So Dick Durbin says we're not going to do this, we're not going to do that. I want to hear what he says when they attack us in the United States."

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We are being attacked by ISIS! (Original Post) grahamhgreen Aug 2014 OP
It's all bullshit malaise Aug 2014 #1
What's weird now Gore1FL Aug 2014 #5
Apparently 2naSalit Aug 2014 #2
I think they have already succeeded to a certain degree. We will have to work very hard to refashion stillwaiting Aug 2014 #3
We need to get rid of campaign donations and Super Pacs. Publicly Funded Elections would Dustlawyer Aug 2014 #15
Let's see the 28 redacted pages of the 9-11 report tk2kewl Aug 2014 #4
FEAR. It's what's for breakfast at Peter King's house. n/t Avalux Aug 2014 #6
My two cents worth: if we miss the chance to create a stable safe Kurdistan, we are fools. McCamy Taylor Aug 2014 #7
I agree. It's past time the Kurd's had control over own destiny. rickyhall Aug 2014 #12
I agree, the Kurds have been neglected, abandoned, and sold out way too many times fujiyama Aug 2014 #14
No, we're being attacked by Tweedledee and Tweedum Jack Rabbit Aug 2014 #8
Fool me once…. MrMickeysMom Aug 2014 #9
We are not on a mountain starving either. Thinkingabout Aug 2014 #10
Some of us are: grahamhgreen Aug 2014 #19
Be serious, was someone below trying to kill you and force you to accept their religion? Thinkingabout Aug 2014 #21
I am serious. People are going hungry right here at home. People are dying from grahamhgreen Aug 2014 #22
Remember this overused republican comment: RoverSuswade Aug 2014 #11
Recommend! and thanks for this Post...Truth to Power! KoKo Aug 2014 #13
Peter King is a fucking liar. Enthusiast Aug 2014 #16
I'm pretty sure I saw an Isi today elias49 Aug 2014 #17
Careful, they may be armed with pen guns: grahamhgreen Aug 2014 #20
This guy is exactly the kind of guy Republicans vote for.... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2014 #18

malaise

(268,967 posts)
1. It's all bullshit
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 03:52 PM
Aug 2014

I wasn't fooled the first time and this time is no different.

Create chaos - divide and rule, loot, plunder and get rich!

Gore1FL

(21,130 posts)
5. What's weird now
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 05:12 PM
Aug 2014

is that the people who were fooled are the ones that are now holding office. Look at Gohmert, Barton, King, Bachmann, Palin, etc. They aren't masterminds, they are the product of the original manipulations, and are now perpetuating it.

2naSalit

(86,577 posts)
2. Apparently
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 03:59 PM
Aug 2014

this is the new paradigm for destroying a democracy, it has been chipping away for a couple decades now, eventually either we or they will succeed. Can't have it both ways.

stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)
3. I think they have already succeeded to a certain degree. We will have to work very hard to refashion
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 04:16 PM
Aug 2014

this nation to serve the interests of the majority of its citizens over the interests of the multinational corporations and the financial elite.

The system needs to be revamped, and laws need to be passed. It will take a movement.

Electing better democrats won't do it (although THAT should still be done to ensure less relative harm).

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
15. We need to get rid of campaign donations and Super Pacs. Publicly Funded Elections would
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 07:00 PM
Aug 2014

return power to the people. Sadly, the people aren't ready to fight. Sure we bitch and moan, but no one is willing to step up and lead the movement. The corporations and the 1% will continue to control the politicians, the media, and through them, the people! We must wait until things get much worse before enough people see through their blaming the poor for our problems.

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
7. My two cents worth: if we miss the chance to create a stable safe Kurdistan, we are fools.
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 05:26 PM
Aug 2014

The Kurds are the only people in the Middle East who have an ounce of sense. And no, I am not Kurdish. But there is truth to the saying that mountain people around the world are more similar to each other than they are to their low lan neighbors. The Kurds I know remind me more of my Appalachian relatives than they do of Arabs.

Plus, I hate the Saud tyrants with a passion, and the Sauds are behind every Sunni insurgency, since Sunnis are monarchists who believe that Allah's will must be channeled through a monarch rather than a cleric.

Two excellent reasons to continue bombing ISIS and supply aid to the Kurds. Meanwhile, Iran needs to get off its butt and support the Shias in Iraq.

fujiyama

(15,185 posts)
14. I agree, the Kurds have been neglected, abandoned, and sold out way too many times
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 06:48 PM
Aug 2014

They seem to be the only group interested in building a half way functioning government that has shown they are willing to fight these ISIS sociopaths. I think the Iranians and Turks have to get over this whole opposition to a Kurdish state. How is having a stable country next door more of a threat than the clusterfuck they have on their borders now?

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
21. Be serious, was someone below trying to kill you and force you to accept their religion?
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 11:08 PM
Aug 2014

I realize times are hard on lots of people, I work a minimum wage job but I am not on a mountain top, guns shooting and do not have any water and food.

 

grahamhgreen

(15,741 posts)
22. I am serious. People are going hungry right here at home. People are dying from
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 11:18 AM
Aug 2014

lack of health care and shelter right here at home. This is due to the fact that 60-75% of our budget goes to the military.

Now, I'd like to ask you, why are those people on That mountain? What is the root cause? I submit it is our invasion of Iraq, that it is our leap to violence as a solution for every problem.

In my view, we need to fix our hungry and homeless problem here first, we need to tax the wealthy to pay for mor war, and we need to prosecute our own torturers and war criminals (the ones responsible for your refugees on the mountain) before we can be taken seriously when we express moral outrage at the actions of others.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
16. Peter King is a fucking liar.
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 07:09 PM
Aug 2014

He wants to create a worthy enemy out of thin air. Perpetual war is the goal.

 

elias49

(4,259 posts)
17. I'm pretty sure I saw an Isi today
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 07:26 PM
Aug 2014

in the woods behind my house! I'm pretty fucking anxious!
And my dogs were barking something fierce.

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