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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 04:14 PM Aug 2014

Kentucky School District Drops Federal Lunch Program

FORT THOMAS, Ky. — Lunch at Fort Thomas Independent Schools may include more French fries, fewer vegetables and larger portions this year. One thing that won't be on the menu: federal dollars.

The Campbell County, Ky., district is opting out of the federal school lunch program, forfeiting hundreds of thousands of dollars in federal funding.

The reason: Kids didn't like their healthful lunches.

"The calorie limitations and types of foods that have to be provided ... have resulted in the kids just saying 'I'm not going to eat that,' " said Fort Thomas Superintendent Gene Kirchner.

The 2,800-student district joins a small but growing number of school districts across the country — mostly wealthy districts that can afford to forfeit the money — that have dropped out of the federal program in the wake of stricter nutritional standards.

Schools said students don't like the unsalted potatoes, low-fat cheese or the mandatory fruits and vegetables. They throw food away or decide not to eat at all.

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http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/08/10/ky-school-district-drops-federal-lunch-program/13864145/

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Kentucky School District Drops Federal Lunch Program (Original Post) Purveyor Aug 2014 OP
Our district doesn't take federal dollars either. MissB Aug 2014 #1
No free or reduced lunch? What do the poor kids do in your district? FSogol Aug 2014 #4
There generally are no kids that qualify MissB Aug 2014 #5
I have a hard time believing that. I live in Fairfax County, one of the richest counties in the US, FSogol Aug 2014 #11
Nope. MissB Aug 2014 #14
Do you live in Kansas? joeglow3 Aug 2014 #23
I do not. MissB Aug 2014 #32
There's a lot of anger toward the healthier lunch program A Little Weird Aug 2014 #2
Or they could add recess and gym back into the curriculum kcr Aug 2014 #8
They should do both A Little Weird Aug 2014 #15
True, but focus more on the exercise kcr Aug 2014 #22
You're kidding right, add recess and gym back into the curriculum.... a kennedy Aug 2014 #19
Who needs gym when you have to learn to take tests. Blue_Adept Aug 2014 #26
Northern KY...wingnut heaven BluegrassDem Aug 2014 #3
Despite being near Cincinnati? alp227 Aug 2014 #6
Yes, it's essentially a suburb of Cincy BluegrassDem Aug 2014 #9
Cincinnati has only become less regressive because the bozos moved across the bridge TheKentuckian Aug 2014 #25
What's next, secession? alp227 Aug 2014 #7
This is really sad. lovemydog Aug 2014 #10
So these idiots rather have un healthy kids in Kentucky bigdarryl Aug 2014 #12
Please refrain from name calling. theHandpuppet Aug 2014 #13
OK no problem bigdarryl Aug 2014 #16
Thanks very much. theHandpuppet Aug 2014 #17
The be even more fair - there's nothing wrong with Hillbillies Fawke Em Aug 2014 #30
and this is dead on.....if it was a program sponsored bye Laura Bush or Nancy Reagan.... a kennedy Aug 2014 #20
Not just FLOTUS...she's an OBAMA! and BLACK! alp227 Aug 2014 #29
so what 'for profit' will provide the foods and how much is the district paying them? Sunlei Aug 2014 #18
I agree that the changes were too radical too quickly implemented B2G Aug 2014 #21
Reducing portions seems stupid to me, I don't remember a single school lunch that didn't TheKentuckian Aug 2014 #27
So do I. historylovr Aug 2014 #31
But, but i thought all those upscale folks ate vegan and healthy foods and wanted it for their kids? kelliekat44 Aug 2014 #24
Ha! That'll show those Feds! Well under nourish our own children underpants Aug 2014 #28

MissB

(15,812 posts)
1. Our district doesn't take federal dollars either.
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 05:07 PM
Aug 2014

Hasn't for well more than a decade at least.

We are one of the wealthy districts, so we can certainly afford to turn down the federal lunch funding. The high school has selections like fresh fruit and oatmeal in the mornings and free fresh veggies (carrots, broccoli, snow peas, peppers, celery) at lunch. Lunch can be freshly made sandwiches, hummus/pita, actual pizza (not frozen), freshly made enchiladas etc. Everything is made on site each day - even the hummus and pita.

But it comes at a price. Lunches are about $5 each. No free or reduced lunch. And the free veggies are wiped out each day.

FSogol

(45,562 posts)
4. No free or reduced lunch? What do the poor kids do in your district?
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 08:31 PM
Aug 2014

Wait, I know, they go hungry.

MissB

(15,812 posts)
5. There generally are no kids that qualify
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 01:40 AM
Aug 2014

for free/reduced lunches. The few that did (maybe three kids in the past decade) had their lunch costs covered by the district.

FSogol

(45,562 posts)
11. I have a hard time believing that. I live in Fairfax County, one of the richest counties in the US,
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 07:52 AM
Aug 2014

and the amount of families in food assistance programs is staggering. I think you are falling for the rosy projections of RW politics.

MissB

(15,812 posts)
14. Nope.
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 08:35 AM
Aug 2014

I'm quite certain of our district's demographics. It's an incredibly small district (less than 750 kids total), with a clearly defined boundary that happens to also be the boundary of the neighborhood. Middle class folks don't stumble into affordable housing here, because there isn't any. There are no apartments and very few non-owner occupied homes. We bought the cheapest home here over a decade ago and it was still ridiculously overpriced for what we bought. We bought here because the district offers a stellar education. It also lacks economic diversity, which is a drawback, but my family helps contribute to that particular diversity.

MissB

(15,812 posts)
32. I do not.
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 02:29 PM
Aug 2014

I live on the west coast in a large city that has several school districts. We've had a Democratic governor since I've lived here, and I've lived here my entire adult life. (Actually, I've lived on the west coast all my life.)

I think it's atrocious that some kids don't find healthy food appealing. I am glad that my kids have a closed school campus, so they are captive to either eating the school food or bringing their lunch. I think it's great that my kids are able to choose good, healthy food - and get free veggies each day. But it comes at a price and it is largely because we've decided as a district to not take federal funds for food. Good fresh food takes money, and the federal funds for school lunches doesn't provide enough to allow districts to meet the guidelines and provide really good food it seems. I wish we'd subsidize that (and PE) rather than wars.

(I'm non specific about where I live and always try to be, as I'm quite a private person IRL.)

A Little Weird

(1,754 posts)
2. There's a lot of anger toward the healthier lunch program
Sun Aug 10, 2014, 07:51 PM
Aug 2014

I think it's very needed given the obesity epidemic.

kcr

(15,320 posts)
8. Or they could add recess and gym back into the curriculum
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 02:07 AM
Aug 2014

I went to school in the mid 70's through the 80's and school lunch was far from the healthiest. My middle school sold chocolate milk shakes as a drink option. But we had both gym and recess daily, so no obesity epidemic. But education reform and mandatory testing gets in the way now.

A Little Weird

(1,754 posts)
15. They should do both
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 08:51 AM
Aug 2014

I think it's a combination of poor diet and lack of exercise that's the problem. But school is just one part of the kid's day, they need a healthy diet at home too. I've known parents that let their toddler drink Mountain Dew from a sippy cup. It's no wonder kids turn out obese if they get off to that kind of start.

a kennedy

(29,735 posts)
19. You're kidding right, add recess and gym back into the curriculum....
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 10:16 AM
Aug 2014
those two things are the first to go when money it tight, and those are the first things that should be kept, increased, or added to STOP THE POTENTIAL gaining weight problem in this country.

alp227

(32,068 posts)
6. Despite being near Cincinnati?
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 01:50 AM
Aug 2014

I guess the Kentucky side of the Cincy area is where the right wingers live. Taxes in Ohio too high?

 

BluegrassDem

(1,693 posts)
9. Yes, it's essentially a suburb of Cincy
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 02:11 AM
Aug 2014

Just like any suburb of most major cities, it's full of Republicans. And even Cincinnati isn't exactly a liberal oasis itself.

TheKentuckian

(25,034 posts)
25. Cincinnati has only become less regressive because the bozos moved across the bridge
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 12:20 PM
Aug 2014

and still isn't very liberal.

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
10. This is really sad.
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 03:25 AM
Aug 2014

I had gym and tons of exercise when I went to school. What the heck has gone wrong?

 

bigdarryl

(13,190 posts)
12. So these idiots rather have un healthy kids in Kentucky
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 07:58 AM
Aug 2014

Last edited Mon Aug 11, 2014, 08:53 AM - Edit history (1)

If this program was though of by First lady Laura Bush or Nancy Reagan they would have no problem with this program.

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
13. Please refrain from name calling.
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 08:16 AM
Aug 2014

Ft. Thomas, Kentucky is a middle class suburb of Cincinnati. It is not in Appalachia so I assume you are simply using the word "hillbillies" as some kind of easy pejorative to describe people you consider ignorant and backward. I really don't appreciate that but would appreciate it if you would consider editing your post. Thank you.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
30. The be even more fair - there's nothing wrong with Hillbillies
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 12:33 PM
Aug 2014

Most of the white people in the South who supported ending slavery were the Hillbillies. They sympathized with poor black people and their religion taught them slavery was wrong.

a kennedy

(29,735 posts)
20. and this is dead on.....if it was a program sponsored bye Laura Bush or Nancy Reagan....
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 10:19 AM
Aug 2014

and thank you for this. IT IS just because it's the FLOTUS's initiative.

alp227

(32,068 posts)
29. Not just FLOTUS...she's an OBAMA! and BLACK!
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 12:30 PM
Aug 2014

Geez, something about the Obamas just brings out the closet racist in people.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
18. so what 'for profit' will provide the foods and how much is the district paying them?
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 09:43 AM
Aug 2014

my goodness, look at the apple in the school childs hand. Even in 1936 movies all the children had a fruit in their lunchbox and were slender children.

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
21. I agree that the changes were too radical too quickly implemented
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 10:35 AM
Aug 2014

They should have phased the changes in over a number of years. Start with adding fruits/veggies. Then phase in lower fat substitutions, etc. A huge mistake was reducing portion size. If you're substituting healthier options, why would you need to reduce portions?

Guess they never heard about the whole frog in a boiling pot of water analogy.

TheKentuckian

(25,034 posts)
27. Reducing portions seems stupid to me, I don't remember a single school lunch that didn't
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 12:27 PM
Aug 2014

leave me starving by 3pm and usually I was hungry when I got done and I wasn't some huge eater, we were all hungry and some kids really counted on the meal, poor fare as it was and lacking stick to the ribs power as the best and most they would see.

historylovr

(1,557 posts)
31. So do I.
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 01:00 PM
Aug 2014

But then I also think schools should go back to cooking in their kitchens and stop buying prepackaged and precooked meals. Our school lunches in the 70s and 80s used to be so good, and varied.

And of course, as posters up thread have said, bring back recess and gym classes. Funding cuts and test, test, test aren't doing anything to help our kids' health either.

 

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
24. But, but i thought all those upscale folks ate vegan and healthy foods and wanted it for their kids?
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 12:11 PM
Aug 2014

Sounds like another objection to anything Obama to me. They teach their kids that stuff too. I am by no means wealthy of even upper middle-class and my grands love fruits and veggies. In fact they eat what we provide for them. One love broccoli, one doesn't a and loves spinach ...they don't like all the same things but I would not call that rejecting fruits and veggies. And salt is rarely asked for because I use onion powder or garlic powder for my seasonings along with real butter.

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