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US analysts conclude MH17 downed by aircraft
By Haris Hussain - 7 August 2014 @ 8:20 AM
Parry had said that Bociurkiws testimony is as close to virgin, untouched evidence and testimony as well ever get. Unlike a black-box interpretation-analysis long afterward by the Russian, British or Ukrainian governments, each of which has a horse in this race, this testimony from Bociurkiw is raw, independent and comes from one of the two earliest witnesses to the physical evidence.
Thats powerfully authoritative testimony. Bociurkiw arrived there fast because he negotiated with the locals for the rest of the OSCE team, who were organising to come later, Parry had said.
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KUALA LUMPUR: INTELLIGENCE analysts in the United States had already concluded that Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 was shot down by an air-to-air missile, and that the Ukrainian government had had something to do with it.
This corroborates an emerging theory postulated by local investigators that the Boeing 777-200 was crippled by an air-to-air missile and finished off with cannon fire from a fighter that had been shadowing it as it plummeted to earth.
In a damning report dated Aug 3, headlined Flight 17 Shoot-Down Scenario Shifts, Associated Press reporter Robert Parry said some US intelligence sources had concluded that the rebels and Russia were likely not at fault and that it appears Ukrainian government forces were to blame.
This new revelation was posted on GlobalResearch, an independent research and media organisation.
In a statement released by the Ukrainian embassy on Tuesday, Kiev denied that its fighters were airborne during the time MH17 was shot down. This follows a statement released by the Russian Defence Ministry that its air traffic control had detected Ukrainian Air Force activity in the area on the same day.
They also denied all allegations made by the Russian government and said the countrys core interest was in ensuring an immediate, comprehensive, transparent and unbiased international investigation into the tragedy by establishing a state commission comprising experts from the International Civil Aviation Organisation (ICAO) and Eurocontrol.
We have evidence that the plane was downed by Russian-backed terrorist with a BUK-M1 SAM system (North Atlantic Treaty Organisation reporting name SA-11) which, together with the crew, had been supplied from Russia. This was all confirmed by our intelligence, intercepted telephone conversations of the terrorists and satellite pictures.
At the same time, the Ukrainian Armed Forces have never used any anti-aircraft missiles since the anti-terrorist operations started in early April, the statement read.
Yesterday, the New Straits Times quoted experts who had said that photographs of the blast fragmentation patterns on the fuselage of the airliner showed two distinct shapes the shredding pattern associated with a warhead packed with flechettes, and the more uniform, round-type penetration holes consistent with that of cannon rounds.
Parrys conclusion also stemmed from the fact that despite assertions from the Obama administration, there has not been a shred of tangible evidence to support the conclusion that Russia supplied the rebels with the BUK-M1 anti-aircraft missile system that would be needed to hit a civilian jetliner flying at 33,000 feet.
Parry also cited a July 29 Canadian Broadcasting Corporation interview with Michael Bociurkiw, one of the first Organisation for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) investigators to arrive at the scene of the disaster, near Donetsk.
Bociurkiw is a Ukrainian-Canadian monitor with OSCE who, along with another colleague, were the first international monitors to reach the wreckage after flight MH17 was brought down over eastern Ukraine.
In the CBC interview, the reporter in the video preceded it with: The wreckage was still smouldering when a small team from the OSCE got there. No other officials arrived for days.
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BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)malaise
(268,997 posts)No obfuscation will prevent that. All the rubbish about the contaminated crash site was part of the distraction. The Western version of this never made sense.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)it will be necessary for something other than our 'evidence' to come forward that backs it up from some other sources before the world is likely to believe a word of it. The World still remembers Colin Powell's childlike drawings of supposed WMD 'trailors' so whatever we present, better be a whole lot better than that.
So far what I have seen is a blurry photo of something in a what looks like mist. Can't even tell where it is from.
Yes, the truth will out, hopefully before any more people die.
Uncle Joe
(58,361 posts)Thanks for the thread, KoKo.
GP6971
(31,156 posts)A couple of days ago, there was a thread that had interviews with eyewitnesses that saw a fighter jet behind MH17. Don't think so.......ever see a plane at 33,000 feet? Even though a triple 7 is a large plane, at 33,000 feet it would be speck.....maybe some contrails. So the witnesses saw a plane at least one twentieth the size? I'm skeptical.
truth2power
(8,219 posts)and seeing pictures of the wreckage, I'm convinced it was a fighter jet.