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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHillary blames Obama for the rise of ISIS.
During a long and in-depth interview with the Atlantics Jeffrey Goldberg, former secretary of state and likely future presidential candidate Hillary Clinton distanced herself from President Obamas foreign policy, implying the Islamist extremist group ISIS would not be so powerful had the president listened to her advice and thrown American power more forcefully behind moderate Syrian rebel forces.
The failure to help build up a credible fighting force of the people who were the originators of the protests against Assad there were Islamists, there were secularists, there was everything in the middle the failure to do that left a big vacuum, which the jihadists have now filled, Clinton said.
Clinton was known at the time to support a larger American investment in the Syrian civil war, and reiterated her belief that not doing so was a mistake in her recently released book about her time as secretary of state, Hard Choices.
In addition to highlighting her differences with Obama on Syria, Clinton also subtly broke from the administration when discussing the ongoing war between Hamas and Israel, speaking in support of Israeli Prime Minister Bibi Netanyahu without chastising the IDF for not doing more to protect civilian lives, as Obamas State Department has sometimes done.
http://www.salon.com/2014/08/10/illary_clinton_blames_rise_of_isis_on_obama_failure_to_intervene_in_syria_civil_war/
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)nt
Cha
(297,220 posts)Cha
(297,220 posts)RandySF
(58,823 posts)If you Google "Hillary ISIS" it's fourth link down.
Cha
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Thank you..
Mutiny In Heaven
(550 posts)That's what this amounts to. She's a calculating character and she has calculated that the weathervane will be facing 'war at all costs' come 2016. There will be no nuanced foreign policy in a Clinton administration; it will have the jackhammer subtlety of the Cheney presidency we never officially had.
Cha
(297,220 posts)she's missing the boat. Wonder who's advising her this time?
I wanted to like Hillary, I did.. but, she's just pissing me off.
RandySF
(58,823 posts)Everyone assumes that she possesses Bill's political skills, but she doesn't.
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)I don't remember her mentioning it back then. No complaints or warnings? No threats to resign if you don't stop ISIS! Nothing. It must have slipped her mind.
Doesn't sound to me like someone who should be making decisions in the Oval Office.
- Does it?
K&R
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Skidmore
(37,364 posts)Johonny
(20,851 posts)all but the hawks who wanted the Iraq war. So they can pretty much shut the * up. I'm sick of people that had no vision in 2002 telling me I didn't do enough-don't see exactly what I always knew would happen. Jesus can't these people just go away after saying I was totally wrong on Iraq and now I want to double down.
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)Craven, graceless.
Just what we DON'T need -- another armchair chickenhawk, cackling away while she sends other people's children to murder and die.
Vattel
(9,289 posts)snooper2
(30,151 posts)go play with your grandkid or something
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)At the cost of billions and many American (and millions of civies on the ground) lives. That "big vacuum" was always there.
With respect to Syria, said the president, the notion that arming the rebels would have made a difference has always been a fantasy. This idea that we could provide some light arms or even more sophisticated arms to what was essentially an opposition made up of former doctors, farmers, pharmacists and so forth, and that they were going to be able to battle not only a well-armed state but also a well-armed state backed by Russia, backed by Iran, a battle-hardened Hezbollah, that was never in the cards.
Even now, the president said (8/2014), the administration has difficulty finding, training and arming a sufficient cadre of secular Syrian rebels: Theres not as much capacity as you would hope.
The broader point we need to stay focused on, he added, is what we have is a disaffected Sunni minority in the case of Iraq, a majority in the case of Syria, stretching from essentially Baghdad to Damascus. ... Unless we can give them a formula that speaks to the aspirations of that population, we are inevitably going to have problems. ... Unfortunately, there was a period of time where the Shia majority in Iraq didnt fully understand that. Theyre starting to understand it now. Unfortunately, we still have ISIL [the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant], which has, I think, very little appeal to ordinary Sunnis. But theyre filling a vacuum, and the question for us has to be not simply how we counteract them militarily but how are we going to speak to a Sunni majority in that area ... that, right now, is detached from the global economy.
LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)She is a disgusting opportunist.
If she were elected, we'd have troops or weapons in every conflict region. No no no.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)She should be attack rw talking points and personas.