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SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
Mon Apr 9, 2012, 04:01 PM Apr 2012

Everything causes cancer

An interesting article..

http://www.theyorker.co.uk/lifestyle/scienceand%20technology/11102

Everything causes cancer
April 9th, 2012

There was an article this week that made it into over one hundred news outlets across the globe - a scientific study that linked height to ovarian cancer. But, as always, different outlets decide to phrase it in a certain way. The Daily Mail went with the surprisingly long and detailed "Taller women 'at greater risk of ovarian cancer' as every two inches of height increases threat by 7 per cent", and the Daily Telegraph went with "Taller women at higher risk of ovarian cancer". Other UK media outlets had similar headlines, also using the word "risk", as if women were endangering themselves by making them taller - as if high heels were the cause, or something.

Sky News Australia went with "Ovarian cancer more likely in tall women" and the Daily Pioneer stated that "Ovarian cancer hits tall women more". The clearly more knowledgeable MedPageToday went with a different route - "Higher BMI Tied to Ovarian Cancer Risk" - that noted that height played a factor but BMI was the more dangerous enemy.

Famously, the Daily Mail claims that all sorts of things can drive cancer - and the Daily Dust compiled a list of articles stating that the following things, according to the Mail, causes cancer: facebook, wine, a cold, deodorant, chips, oral sex, vitamin E, sausages, burgers, soup, hair dye, mouthwash, sun cream, pringles, hula-hoops, x-rays, talcum powder, moisturisers, mobile phones, red meat, tooth whitener, chocolates and other bagged foods. The official list contains many even-more worrying objects; fibre, fruit, vegetables, exercise, infections, occupations, hormones, etc. etc.

Of course when you look at this with a scientific eye, you notice something completely different - only two things are higher than the 5% error margin found in a sample size of 400 people - obesity and tobacco. In fact, obesity is only a 6.9% increase, whilst tobacco is responsible for well over double that figure. Alcohol, UV rays and infections - all popularly known cancer causes - are almost exactly as dangerous as fruit and vegetables. But when the Guardian came to report on it, they stated that "The Cancer Research UK report found more than 100,000 cancers each year in the UK are caused by four lifestyle factors - smoking, unhealthy diets, alcohol and people being too fat.". Notice that whilst alcohol represents an increase of 3.3% in women and 4.6% in men (according to their data), fruit and vegetables cause 3.4% and 6.1% respectively. In fact, according to their data, obesity only causes an increase of 4.1%, and therefore, scientifically, fruit and vegetables are the second biggest causes of cancer in men.

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Everything causes cancer (Original Post) SoCalDem Apr 2012 OP
most of it is cindyperry2010 Apr 2012 #1
This is my father's favorite saying. ScreamingMeemie Apr 2012 #2
My late father's favorite saying PlanetBev Apr 2012 #11
Distraction. silverweb Apr 2012 #3
The sheer number of them protects industry from ever owning up to them.. we are all lab-rats SoCalDem Apr 2012 #5
'Fruit and vegetables are the second biggest causes of cancer in men!!!' elleng Apr 2012 #4
The two greatest risk factors for breast cancer are Silver Swan Apr 2012 #6
It's no wonder that people can be so easily convinced that global warming is not real. Speck Tater Apr 2012 #7
This is an important point. surrealAmerican Apr 2012 #17
That's because the press is only interested in... Speck Tater Apr 2012 #18
Being a human and being alive gives you MineralMan Apr 2012 #8
That's why I'm indulging in all those unhealthy practices while I'm young... smirkymonkey Apr 2012 #13
Very clever you are and quite well-reasoned. MineralMan Apr 2012 #14
It is really just about your immune system. YellowRubberDuckie Apr 2012 #20
Actually, I've never been freaked by the concept of death. MineralMan Apr 2012 #21
I've gotten less and less freaked by the concept of death... YellowRubberDuckie Apr 2012 #22
A wise philosophy, I think. MineralMan Apr 2012 #23
There's no cure, there's no answer.... Bluenorthwest Apr 2012 #9
one of the best waddirum Apr 2012 #15
I bet worrying ourselves over evey study causes cancer too get the red out Apr 2012 #10
On a long enough time line, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero MrScorpio Apr 2012 #12
Living causes death Gman Apr 2012 #16
Birth is a terminal disease. YellowRubberDuckie Apr 2012 #19

silverweb

(16,402 posts)
3. Distraction.
Mon Apr 9, 2012, 04:07 PM
Apr 2012

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]It all focuses attention away from the fact that the poisons that industrial society has been pumping into our environment are really the main cause for many if not most cancers. But we don't need no stinkin' EPA....

Silver Swan

(1,110 posts)
6. The two greatest risk factors for breast cancer are
Mon Apr 9, 2012, 04:13 PM
Apr 2012

1. Being cis-female

2. Growing older.


I was recently diagnosed with breast cancer at age 65. This was clearly my fault because I am a woman, and I didn't properly control my age.

 

Speck Tater

(10,618 posts)
7. It's no wonder that people can be so easily convinced that global warming is not real.
Mon Apr 9, 2012, 04:13 PM
Apr 2012

They see science and a huge collection of contradictions and conflicts between people who can't agree on anything, and change their opinions every three days. Is it any wonder people no longer take "scientific studies" seriously?

surrealAmerican

(11,360 posts)
17. This is an important point.
Mon Apr 9, 2012, 06:21 PM
Apr 2012

People who read these articles in the popular press learn to distrust "scientific" results because the press does a truly terrible job of screening out the meaningless noise, and explaining the useful findings.

 

Speck Tater

(10,618 posts)
18. That's because the press is only interested in...
Mon Apr 9, 2012, 08:03 PM
Apr 2012

earning advertising money, and that means drawing in the rubes with marvelous tales of wonder. Every day.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
8. Being a human and being alive gives you
Mon Apr 9, 2012, 04:15 PM
Apr 2012

an 83% greater chance of developing cancer. Every human cancer occurs in a living person. Therefore, being alive causes cancer.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
13. That's why I'm indulging in all those unhealthy practices while I'm young...
Mon Apr 9, 2012, 04:54 PM
Apr 2012

So I can die early and therefore prevent my risk of cancer due to the aging process.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
14. Very clever you are and quite well-reasoned.
Mon Apr 9, 2012, 04:58 PM
Apr 2012

Life is for living. Getting old and dying pretty much sucks. As an ancient geezer, myself, I'm glad I sowed bushels and bushels of wild oats in my youth.

Go and do likewise!

YellowRubberDuckie

(19,736 posts)
20. It is really just about your immune system.
Mon Apr 9, 2012, 08:18 PM
Apr 2012

We were all freaked about this when we learned this in whatever science class we learned this in.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
21. Actually, I've never been freaked by the concept of death.
Mon Apr 9, 2012, 08:23 PM
Apr 2012

We are born, we live, and then we die. The schedule of that is very uncertain, and the manner of our death is even more uncertain. Since childhood, I have awoken every day with the knowledge that it might be my last day. I'm quite surprised and gratified that I have reached my current age. I'm still waking up each morning with the same knowledge.

Death is not something that I'm afraid of, and I've been near it...very near. It just is. Life just is. It's all very interesting.

YellowRubberDuckie

(19,736 posts)
22. I've gotten less and less freaked by the concept of death...
Mon Apr 9, 2012, 08:31 PM
Apr 2012

...as I age. I used to be BUGGED by the concept, even though from a young age, I've been dealing with death. Now I'm just going with the flow. I'll die when I die. My mom's side tend to live into their 70s and 80s. My dad died when he was 62. His sister is still alive and she's like 75. Of course, they're all heavy smokers, so who knows how long I'm going to keep kicking. I'm not that concerned, really.

waddirum

(979 posts)
15. one of the best
Mon Apr 9, 2012, 05:05 PM
Apr 2012

Joe is mensch enough to publish sheet music for many of his songs, including one for "Cancer". I'm a diligent student, going back 30 years now.

YellowRubberDuckie

(19,736 posts)
19. Birth is a terminal disease.
Mon Apr 9, 2012, 08:17 PM
Apr 2012

The fact is, there are different triggers for everyone. Some are genetic. Some are outside forces. Fact is, no one really knows 100% what causes cancer. Just like no one knows what causes autism or what exactly it is.

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