State Sen Tweets 'F--K You' At Missouri Gov Over Ferguson Response

[MohRokTah]

Frankly, I'm with her. She's been there during this.

State Sen Tweets 'F--K You' At Missouri Gov Over Ferguson Response

A Missouri state senator tweeted "F--K you" at Gov. Jay Nixon (D) Thursday morning, seemingly upset by his absence from the protests in Ferguson.

Sen. Maria Chappelle-Nadal (D), who represents the Ferguson area, has spent time in the city during the protests. KMOZ reported Wednesday that Chapelle-Nadal said she had been hit with tear gas while standing with protesters.

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The actual tweets at TPM Link.

[Bandit]

1. How crude...and she is a State Senator...

When our leaders act in such a crude fashion what can we expect from ordinary citizens?

[brucefan]

2. I agree

She'll be getting attention for the wrong reasons.

[merrily]

6. So will he.

[JoePhilly]

3. She should thank him for letting the police tear gas her.

[merrily]

8. A cop kills a kid, the Governor keeps his distance, police officials claim self defense

(surprise, surprise) and this is what upsets you?

[Ed Suspicious]

26. Very good point.

[Gore1FL]

40. He didn't keep his distance.

He was here on Monday.

[merrily]

41. According to your state senator who got maced, he was not at "Ground Zero."

I don't know why she would have said that on national TV if it were false.

[Gore1FL]

43. He was at Murcheson Temple at the NAACP meeting.

Physics prevent him from being at Ground zero where he would have done less good.

[merrily]

46. Physics? And how do you know how much good he would have done if

he had gone to Ground Zero?

IOW, she was correct. He did not go to Ground Zero and, based on what she said, my post did not say that he stayed away, but rather that he kept his distance.

[Gore1FL]

48. How much good would have been eliminated if he wasn't at the NAACP meeting?

Should we condemn the NAACP too?

There are plenty of legitimate criticism to throw at Governor Nixon. We don't have to make things up.

[merrily]

49. Huh? Why is the choice suddenly between nothing and the NAACP?

A second ago it was between Ground Zero and the NAACP.

And what happened to physics prevented him from being there?

And what are we going to blame the NAACP for again? Not refusing to hear the Governor?

Sorry, your logic is escaping me.

I made nothing up. I am taking the word of your state senator, who seems very credible.

Another county heard from about Nixon.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/08/14/missouri-gov-jay-nixon-has-been-at-the-center-of-racial-tension-before-ferguson/

[Gore1FL]

55. Ok Let me explain this in detail

The governor was at the NAACP meeting on Monday. Ergo He was involved from Monday.


When the governor was at the NAACP meeting, he was unable to be anywhere else at the same time.
Other People at the NAACP meeting were unable to be anywhere else at the same time.

The only issue I had with the NAACP is that they held it at too small of a venue on a street undergoing construction. I drive by it almost every day. I knew the place was way too small. And with Natural Bridge becoming a "Great Street" (a rant for another time), the location was preposterous.

Had they moved the location of the NAACP meeting 4 miles to ground zero, everyone could have been there at the same time, and we wouldn't be having this aimless conversation.

[merrily]

57. Point is, he chose to be at the NAACP Monday and not Ground Zero and, according to her, he's

never been at Ground Zero. And this is Thursday.

So, several posts from you later, my statement that he has kept his distance still seems accurate. If not, take it up with your state senator.

No one thought he could be in two places at once, so yes, your reply was pointless, as was your original statement about physics.

[Gore1FL]

59. What, specifically, should he do at ground zero?

Please do tell. I am interested in your insight in my governor and my neighboring town.

[merrily]

61. For the 3rd or 4th time, this is coming from your state senator, not from me.

You keep moving the goal post. My statement was only that the Governor had kept his distance.

First, you denied he kept his distance, saying he had been there. Then you said he did more good at the NAACP than he would have done at Ground Zero. Then you said he could not possibly have been there because he was at the NAACP. A And now, you want me to explain to you why should he have been there. Each time you've been challenged you just move the goal post .

I have no patience with posters who do that.

Point is, he wasn't there, exactly as I said originally. If you want to know why it might have been better for him to be at Ground Zero than at the NAACP, take it up with your State Senator, Sen. Chapelle-Nadal, as I urged you to do in my prior post. My guess is she has more insight into this than you do. Doesn't keep moving the goalpost, either.

Good night.

[Gore1FL]

64. I understand your argument.

My response is "So fucking what?"

What possible benefit would it be to have the governor at "ground zero?" Do burned QuikTrips have secret powers he could unlock?

He doesn't work in St. Louis. He's come here twice this week. He's not like batman sitting around waiting for the next crisis, he actually has other things to do than walk anonymously through a crowd or grab a photo op which are precisely the two basic options he has when going there.

I'm not moving the goal post. I have been, apparently ineffectively telling you as a someone walking distance from Ground Zero that it wouldn't have fucking made a gad damn difference and that his actions on Monday and today are what one would expect from a Governor.

His response was appropriate. His response has been effective.

There are legitimate criticisms that can be made against the governor. Neither you nor Sen. Chapelle-Nadal need to come up with ridiculous ones.

On Edit:

Remember when Ted Cruz the Tea Party Criticized Obama for not going to the border when he went to TX?? I do. I felt the same way then.

[merrily]

66. Apparently, you understood nothing. This is not my argument, but Sen Chapelle Nadal's.

I've said that four or five times now and you still don't get it. It's not a difficult concept. Yet, you keep talking about how far I am from Missouri.

Senator Chappelle Nadal is not only in Missouri, she is in your State Senate, serving under your Governor and, as I have said before, probably knows him and the situation in Ferguson a hell of a lot better than you do. And, she has also been in Ferguson.

If you want to understand HER argument, give her a call tomorrow.

BTW, for all I know, you live in Ohio. And for all you know, I live in Ferguson.

And, while

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Internet,_nobody_knows_you%27re_a_dog#mediaviewer/File:Internet_dog.jpg

It doesn't take long to see what kind of poster you are.

In any event, I am done with what you called a pointless conversation several posts ago, yet insist on continuing, even though your argument is with Sen Chappelle-Nadal and not with me.

Again, good night. For the rest of this conversation, you will be posting to yourself. I have no patience for going in circles endlessly and needlessly for no reason.

[Gore1FL]

67. Good night

I know what kind of a poster I am too. One with an opposing point of view. I am glad, with Congress out of session, Senator Chappelle-Nadal can attend these rallies. Alderman Antonio French has been awesome on the ground. I recomend following him on twitter:

https://twitter.com/AntonioFrench


There is no purpose for the governor to go. None. The Senator is wrong. She is also apparently rather rude.

There are plenty of legitimate reasons for criticizing Jay Nixon. This isn't one of them. If Senator Chappelle-Nadal wants to make up reasons, that is her call. If you want to parrot them. That is yours.

TTFN

[leftstreet]

11. You think 'our leaders' are better than 'ordinary citizens?'

[Bandit]

19. I think they should present themselves in a manner that is not crass and crude.

They should have enough intelligence that they can get their message across without being loutish.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

39. I just had a flashback of Axel Foley in the squad room being called "foul mouthed" by Taggart.

[heaven05]

74. tell that BS

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to the RW/Tea partiers and just plain run of the mill racists out there like Bachmann, Issa, Cruz, Limpig et al. She had a reason to be"loutish". A person being racist and piggish does not.

[rhett o rick]

20. "But of course, I say. And how dare you suggest otherwise. She is supposed to represent us the elite

and she says those foul things, typical of a commoner. I will have my man look into it tomorrow. Crude.....just crude eh Humphrey?"

[savalez]

30. My word!

Shall we go for a game of cricket?

[rhett o rick]

33. Sorry no, but a bit of tea and biscuit would be jolly good. nm

[chknltl]

31. Perhaps she had just ran out of Grey Poupon.

You might consider sending Humphrey out with a jar for a rendezvous during his lunch break.

[Jamastiene]

76. Best subthread in ages.

[rhett o rick]

84. Thanks. Have a great day.

[rhett o rick]

18. "Ah yes, how crude my lord (he says while sipping a light Chamomile tea with his pinky extended."

"She must not be one of us. Does she not know that the police are only killing 'those' people to keep us from exposure to the rif-raf. Crude, I say."

"Would you care for another crumpet Humphrey?"

[savalez]

23. LOL

[bravenak]

54. "Where's that butler?"

'I asked him to bring me some creamcakes! One can never find good help these days. The lower classes are just that lazy."

[rhett o rick]

63. "Sorry sir, but the butler is protesting. How crude." nm

[bravenak]

69. Such peasantry.

Plebs.

[riqster]

79. "Sire, the peasants are revolting!"

"Hrrmph, you're not all that appealing yourself!"

[ProfessorGAC]

86. Or . . .

. . ."You're right, they stink on ice." Thanks to Mel Brooks.

[m-lekktor]

82. ....

[Jackpine Radical]

29. Oh, fer Chrissakes. You forget your sarcasm thingie or something?

Get a clue. Using a common expletive is not acting "in a crude fashion," given the context. A kid was killed, apparently murdered. The cops are engaged in a massive coverup, and are responding with an iron fist to an outraged public. And you're upset at a bad word.

[rhett o rick]

34. There you go! She says Fuck you and you now are saying "Chrissakes". See what she started. Next

thing you know they will be saying those things on TV and in Jr. High.

[heaven05]

36. yeah right

how crude is it to shoot an unarmed man with hands in the air, 10 fucking times!!!!! The fake indignation is ...............

[Gore1FL]

44. That doesn't make sense

Person 1 shoots person 2. Therefore it is OK for person 3 to say "Fuck You" to person 4.

If that isn't your point, you didn't make it clearly.

[heaven05]

71. Ha!

deflection, distraction from point, you've got the art down pat. Ha!

[Gore1FL]

87. Whatever you say.

[TheDebbieDee]

51. I saw her do a long interview with Chris Hayes and it

Was obvious that she's trying to make a name for herself. It was embarrassing. Maybe she will run for Governor in 2016...

What was her name again?

[davidpdx]

68. She was on CNN a few hours ago

and said something at the end of the interview (I can't remember because she said it fast, but it was something about Gov Nixon not coming down to the city where the protests and shooting happening).

Damn I have to get back to work.

[valerief]

77. The guv truly is crude for not going to Ferguson. State sen is correct in her assessment. nt

[WinkyDink]

80. Because politeness is what is called for here, right?

[Boom Sound 416]

4. Well, that ought to help things cool down a bit.

And do nothing at the same time.


Well played!

[CreekDog]

16. .

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5384600

[Boom Sound 416]

17. I thought you already had a reindeer game

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5386876

[Live and Learn]

5. Nobody seemed upset when Cheney said it as VP. nt

[merrily]

9. And no one had maced him.

[Live and Learn]

10. Exactly. And while I probably wouldn't have used the term she did,

I almost certainly would have called him an asshole. She has every right to be angry.

[merrily]

12. She isn't angry only at being maced. Watch the video linked by calo4 in Reply 7.

[Live and Learn]

14. I did and I agree with her 100%. nt

[CaptainTruth]

50. It's never too late.

A man can dream, can't he?

[merrily]

52. Depends. How willing are you to be hauled away by the Secret Service?

[cal04]

7. Here's her explaining what happened to Andrea Mitchell

http://www.msnbc.com/andrea-mitchell-reports/watch/state-senator-gassed-in-ferguson-protest-318099523773

[merrily]

13. Thank you. Vetoing an act about equal education alone deserves an FU.

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ETA:

Senator to police: Will I be maced again? I was maced yesterday while sitting peacefully. Will I be maced again if I demonstrate peacefully?

Police: I hope not.

I hope not?

[cui bono]

15. Unprofessional and not helpful.

Even though her feelings are warranted, as an elected official she should refrain from such outbursts.

[tomm2thumbs]

24. agreed

[rhett o rick]

32. While I understand your desire for civility, at some point one must stand up to "the man" and say

Fuck You. Getting sprayed with pepper spray, IMO, qualifies. It sounds like Nixon is a Republican in Democratic clothing.

[Gore1FL]

47. He isn't

The governor didn't shoot the tear-gas canister. The governor replaced the people who shot the tear-gas canisters with people we all hope will do a better job.

There is a lot of legitimate criticisms to throw at Jay Nixon. We don;t have to make things up.

[delete_bush]

60. +1 or whatever the code is for thumbs up...

Moving forward, the various levels of neighborhood/city/state government need to come together. Tweeting "Fuck You" and calling the Gov a coward is not only childish but counterproductive, not to mention showing a complete lack of class.

I have no doubt there are right-wingers who would like the Gov to amp it up and call her a fill in the blank. Escalating the situation solves nothing.

[rhett o rick]

62. If you are going to accuse me of "making things up", plez have the decency to back it

up with a quote. Gov Nixon isn't a friend of the poor and you know it. Yes he did replace the Barney Fife police force, but I'm betting not with our a little pressure. Whose side are you on in this?

[Gore1FL]

65. My neighbors, as I am walking distance from it.

You?

And what I suggest you are "making up" is that Gov Nixon could have somehow prevented tear gas from landing near the senator. Otherwise "fuck you" isn't warranted by your own standard.

[rhett o rick]

72. So you are standing with the Gov and not the people? Can't you understand

the frustration the Sen feels after years of neglect that lead up to this?

[heaven05]

73. no,

no, this person, you're responding to, CAN'T.

[rhett o rick]

75. Sorry, I must have gotten confused some where along the trail. My point is that it's past time

to stand up and say F-U to those that are working to destroy the lower classes.

[heaven05]

78. I agree, unequivocably

and completely.

[rhett o rick]

83. And back at you.

[Gore1FL]

92. This has nothing to do with the protests in Ferguson.

Keep up.

[Gore1FL]

91. I put that into Google translate and it came out

"Waaaaaaasaaa"

[heaven05]

93. I knew you wouldn't

answer. Typical.

[Gore1FL]

94. I am glad the ogvernor replaced the local police with the MO highway patrol

What he did was positive. It had great results. He also called for the release of the name of the cop who did thew shooting. n It was released.

What is your issue? Hate facts? Already decided on a narrative and are sticking to it? Perhaps you just want to make false choices.

As a local to this crisis I have one thing to say to you at this time: Fuck you.

[heaven05]

95. Oh, well you

got a chance to be as crude as you accused someone else of being. Feels good, doesn't it. As a local you did not answer my pertinent question and I did know you couldn't, in all honesty, feel the shooting was unjustified. Hate actions against unarmed people offering no threat drive my hate facts/statements and narrative. Thank you for proof of who you really are.

[Gore1FL]

96. The police used excessive force

They did so on Saturday during the shooting.

They did so on Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday as well.

The governor is not the police. The governor replaced the police.

It's very frustrating that you equate the governor with the police. I deceives your ignorance on the matter at hand.

Bye.

[Gore1FL]

90. The frustration is misdirected.

The criticism is absurd.

There are legitimate reasons to Criticize Gov Nixon. this is not one of them.

Standing with the governor vs standing with the people is a false choice.

I stand with the people, and believe the criticisms of the governor are stupid.

[heaven05]

81. let me ask you a question

if you're "within walking distance", have you walked that distance to see for yourself or to make a statement? They really are lucky, I'm not within "walking distance". I've shed blood to gain my human right(s) in this country, have you ever? Just a couple of questions.

[Gore1FL]

97. Um yes. I walk to Ferguson all of the time.

Doing so now isn't a big change. In fact, I have reason to do so now.

I haven't "shed blood" specifically, but I work for the State and take a hell of a pay/benefit cut doing so. Does that count, or are you insistent on on making things false choices, and continue you inexplicable assholish attempt to twist my words?

[SleeplessinSoCal]

21. I tweeted him last night. "Where are you? Neptune?"

Then today, hearing that he ordered the Highway Patrol to replace the Ferguson PD, with a black captain from Ferguson, I was thrilled.

I think, possibly like ISIS, it takes seeing the ruthless ugliness of some people to show why civilized behavior is essential. And unfortunately, many pay the price for the lesson.

[savalez]

22. TWEETS HERE

Governor Jay Nixon ✔ @GovJayNixon
Situation in Ferguson does not represent who we are. Must keep the peace, while safeguarding rights of citizens and the press

MariaChappelleNadal @MariaChappelleN
@GovJayNixon @DKSheets You don't know shit bc you never communicate. FUCK you, Governor!

Governor Jay Nixon ✔ @GovJayNixon
As Governor, I'm committed to ensuring pain of last weekend's tragedy does not continue to be compounded by this ongoing crisis. #Ferguson

MariaChappelleNadal @MariaChappelleN
@GovJayNixon @jmannies FUCK you, Governor. I'm calling your bullshit!
10:56 PM - 13 Aug 2014

[tomm2thumbs]

25. I think those tweets are very telling

[savalez]

28. She called him a Coward on MSNBC too

“Our governor, Governor Nixon, has been absent from the minority community, not for a few years, but for a few decades, and this is inexcusable. And he only comes to the minority community when it’s politically expedient. And now that the world’s eyes are on Missouri… the governor is now here. But he’s not really at Ground Zero. He’s never come to Ground Zero… For that, I call him a coward.”

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/missouri-state-senator-calls-governor-a-coward-on-msnbc/

[Spitfire of ATJ]

42. ...

[heaven05]

37. EXCELLENT!!

MariaChappelleNadal

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

99. Good for her! A Democrat who stands up! We need more like her.

[Iron Man]

27. Ooooh. She said a swear.

Where's my fainting couch?

[bravenak]

56. Here you go, dear.

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[47of74]

35. That's GODDAMN right.

I have family in the St. Louis area so I was a bit concerned about all this. Granted they live some distance from Ferguson but it still concerns me that Civil War II is happening next door to them. It's past fucking time someone calls bullshit on the Governor for not clamping down harder a bit sooner on the Ferguson PD.

[Skidmore]

45. I really like this young woman and her district is fortunate to have her. I hope we see

her more on the national level. She's fearless.

[bullwinkle428]

53. What a coincidence! That was exactly my reaction to the assclown when

I heard his "look forward, not back" comment.

[tea and oranges]

58. What I can't get out of my head

is the picture of that young man lying face down in a pool of his own blood, left there for four hours, uncovered.

First this young man was shot 10 times by people who then desecrated his remains in full view of the community. Almost like a head on a pike. . . or deliberate incitement.

That's what I call crude.

[mythology]

70. It seems to me she's looking for publicity rather than to solve a problem

Being rude rarely accomplishes as much as people think it does. Her actions don't further the end goal of getting a peaceful and just resolution. Instead she's assuming the worst and acting on that assumption.

[heaven05]

85. well, when and IF

you get tired of unarmed men and women being killed and physically accosted by the "officers of peace' who are supposed to "protect and serve"--BIG sarcasm smilie....maybe, just maybe, you'll start swearing too. But of course, you're too civilized to do something as "crude" as that.

[malaise]

88. I watched her defense of her choice of words on TV

and support her 100%. She too has First Amendment rights.

[LittleBlue]

89. What's the point of randomly saying fu?

She could use her position to tell why she's angry and make a suggestion, like all police officers wearing video recorders.

How perfectly useless.

[Gore1FL]

98. Attention and publicity.

It's like when Ted Cruz criticized Obama for not going to the border of TX to discuss the crisis there.

She has a right to be angry at the events, but her criticism is emotional, misplaced, and unhelpful.