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It's A Sad Commentary On America When The People Don't Trust The Police.....nt (Original Post) global1 Aug 2014 OP
I've never trusted the police. LexVegas Aug 2014 #1
People? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2014 #2
I do not trust anyone with a gun. PowerToThePeople Aug 2014 #3
I used to halfway trust the police damnedifIknow Aug 2014 #4
"It's a sad commentary on police in America when they can't be trusted." FIXED. WinkyDink Aug 2014 #5
Better. ChairmanAgnostic Aug 2014 #9
Why should they? apnu Aug 2014 #6
It's A Sad Commentary On America When The Police Don't Trust The People. IDemo Aug 2014 #7
I never trusted the police. And what little trust I had evaporated in Chicago in 1968. hobbit709 Aug 2014 #8
Mine evaporated in Paris in May of '68. 1968 was a very, very bad year for cops. GliderGuider Aug 2014 #13
It's a sad commentary when we're given no reason to. n/t AngryOldDem Aug 2014 #10
The only thing sadder... Orsino Aug 2014 #11
I lost a lot of respect back in 1966 when an off-duty deputy hit my sinkingfeeling Aug 2014 #12
I haven't trusted a cop - any cop since I was a teenager hifiguy Aug 2014 #14
Did you sleep through the '70's? B2G Aug 2014 #15
why are you being so cryptic? CreekDog Aug 2014 #16
I haven't trusted the cops since I was a kid...... socialist_n_TN Aug 2014 #17
Too many trust them 100% because of BS TV shows! nt Logical Aug 2014 #18
They're not trustworthy. Iggo Aug 2014 #19
That line was passed long ago. Was there any such time at all? TheKentuckian Aug 2014 #20

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
2. People?
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 12:36 PM
Aug 2014

Lots of people haven't trusted the police (for pretty good reason) since the beginning.

The "problem" is that so many people have cameras and video at hand nowadays that the police can't get away with as much as they used to. The people who have historically been the targets of police brutality and exploitation and even murder can now start providing evidence of what's really going on.

 

PowerToThePeople

(9,610 posts)
3. I do not trust anyone with a gun.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 12:37 PM
Aug 2014

They carry the power of life and death over other people. That is not a basic "right" imo.

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
9. Better.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 12:59 PM
Aug 2014

Of course, I used to trust republicans. Here in Illinois, many years ago, we had some good ones. Chuck Percy, John Anderson, a few others.

apnu

(8,756 posts)
6. Why should they?
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 12:57 PM
Aug 2014

Even before the militarization of the police, Miranda reminds us that the police are evidence collectors. Everything you say can and will lead to prosecution. Even if you're seeking help in a hit and run and let it slip you were outside of the cross walk, you should get nailed for jaywalking.

The police are not there to "serve and protect" as much as it says on the side of the car. They patrol for law violations on the best of days, they do not seek those who need help and render aid.

Here is my cop story:

Full disclosure: I'm white and male, and was 20 years old when this happened in the 1990s.

I was driving down the highway in my girlfriend's car. She was in the passenger seat. The car broke down because of a missing oil cap. I pulled over dug around in the trunk found a quart and a rag and was going to put more oil in the car, stuff it with the rag and get to a Sears to buy a proper oil cap. State trooper rolls up wondering what's going on. I tell her this story, she says that's fine and she's going to go back in her car and keep an eye out for us and follow us to make sure we get to Sears at an exit maybe 500 yards from where we were.

She gets back in the car runs the plates, sees they're registered to a person with a female name, but I'm male so she gets out and demands my ID, registration and insurance. I provide my license, girlfriend digs up her insurance card and the car title out of the glove box. Trooper looks this over, looks on the back of the title and sees that the car was signed over from my girlfriend's grand mother to her, and then that the car was signed over to another person, then signed back to my girlfriend. Trooper calls another unit and arrests me for driving w/out insurance. Saying the title transfer invalidates the insurance card and the car isn't insured even though the insurance was paid up. I had a (not) lovely ride in the back of the trooper's car trussed up in cuffs.

So I lost my license for a year, had to pay a $1000 fine (I was a dishwasher making minimum wage it took me a very long time to save up a grand) and had to go through all the rigamarole of getting a new license like I was 16 all over again. The state I was in at the time required that I take a 16 hour course, written exam, eye exam and driving exam... all of which had fees associated with them.

Oh and the girlfriend? Simply had to get a new insurance card printed from the insurer and pay a $50 impound fee to get the car back. Never once helped me with the fine. We broke up soon after that incident.

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
13. Mine evaporated in Paris in May of '68. 1968 was a very, very bad year for cops.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 02:49 PM
Aug 2014

Any time I've had encounters beyond a simple traffic ticket, they simply reinforced that lack of trust.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
11. The only thing sadder...
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 01:56 PM
Aug 2014

...is a white person just now discovering that the police aren't trusted. That's absolutely tragic.

sinkingfeeling

(51,454 posts)
12. I lost a lot of respect back in 1966 when an off-duty deputy hit my
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 02:37 PM
Aug 2014

car, head-on, and then threw beer bottles out of his car into a corn field. He then stopped the Highway Patrol from coming to the scene (I had called even though I was bleeding) and had his buddy, the sheriff, cite me for being left of center. I was 17. The front left wheel of my dad's car was 6 inches over the line and the deputy had 236 feet of skid marks down my side of the road.

I don't have a lot of trust in today's police.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
14. I haven't trusted a cop - any cop since I was a teenager
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 02:51 PM
Aug 2014

with long hair back in the 1970s. Fuck 'em all.

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
17. I haven't trusted the cops since I was a kid......
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 08:21 PM
Aug 2014

My first memory (maybe 18 months or so we figured out later) was of a state trooper in Mississippi berating my Mama for some sort of driving infraction. I remember the scene and the emotion, anger at this person talking angrily at my Mom.

Nothing in later life changed my opinion. The cops will help if they feel like it. Or they'll fuck with you if they feel like it. Objective circumstances have very little to do with their attitude and behavior.

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