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avebury

(10,952 posts)
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 04:10 PM Aug 2014

Do you wonder if the Ferguson Police Chief released

the ridiculous story of the alleged robber just as much to make life hell for Ron Johnson as to trash Michael Brown's reputation. Johnson is doing a great job getting the people calmed down and the Police Chief stirs the pot back up again.

Jealousy perhaps?

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Do you wonder if the Ferguson Police Chief released (Original Post) avebury Aug 2014 OP
Chief Clueless oldandhappy Aug 2014 #1
He did it to taint the jury pool. (nt) jeff47 Aug 2014 #2
"Because the press asked for it" Politicalboi Aug 2014 #3
Yeah, the new guy came in and practically walked on water. wildeyed Aug 2014 #4
Well, there's definitely character assassination involved cui bono Aug 2014 #5
The only problem is that none of the witnesses have avebury Aug 2014 #6
Actually, Dorian Johnson did. I heard it so it must have been an MSNBC interview. cui bono Aug 2014 #8
if his hands were filled with cigars (and what kind of fool would be carrying them in his niyad Aug 2014 #17
That was the point of Dorian bringing it up, that his hands were full so he couldn't have reached cui bono Aug 2014 #18
Those were like 99 cent cigars ... sunnystarr Aug 2014 #11
Oh. I got the price off of the police report. cui bono Aug 2014 #14
You got that right ... sunnystarr Aug 2014 #19
I don't have a problem with them releasing the story about the robbery cleduc Aug 2014 #7
The video doesn't look anywhere near as violent as the still photos aint_no_life_nowhere Aug 2014 #9
Johnson is ready for prime time, FPD is not... not at all uponit7771 Aug 2014 #10
To me, it looks like a blatant attempt to stir up the protesters. n/t winter is coming Aug 2014 #12
Making life for difficult for Johnson would just be avebury Aug 2014 #13
You know it's gotta chap their collective ass that he came in and got near-instant success winter is coming Aug 2014 #16
Hell, Chief Wiggum can do a better job of running that department than he has MrScorpio Aug 2014 #15

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
1. Chief Clueless
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 04:18 PM
Aug 2014

needs to take a long vacation -- go away please. Yes, every time he sees a camera he messes up.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
3. "Because the press asked for it"
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 04:33 PM
Aug 2014

Don't you remember all the calls from news outlets demanding to see the robbery tape? Me neither.

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
4. Yeah, the new guy came in and practically walked on water.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 04:42 PM
Aug 2014

Absolutely stirring the pot. He knows his job and reputation are gone. I guess he wants to take as many down with him as possible.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
5. Well, there's definitely character assassination involved
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 04:45 PM
Aug 2014

but I just read a story about this and there was a robbery report filed and now there is video showing an altercation with Brown and the store clerk. So I don't think calling it ridiculous is warranted.

That being said, there was NO reason to have shot and especially killed Brown. Even if he did commit robbery he should not have even been shot once while fleeing, especially not over a $49 box of cigars. He got shot for not being completely subordinate to a police officer.

But hyperbole doesn't help.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
6. The only problem is that none of the witnesses have
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 04:49 PM
Aug 2014

stated that Brown was carrying anything when he was shot. What happened to the cigars he was alleged to have stolen? The cherry picked pictures paint a far worse picture then the actual video which really is not that bad. There is no way that you can make the inference that he stole anything just based upon the video.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
8. Actually, Dorian Johnson did. I heard it so it must have been an MSNBC interview.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 04:57 PM
Aug 2014

I'll try to find the link.

Here it is:



At 2:40 he says Brown's "hands were filled" with cigarellos (?). That his hands were not free.

niyad

(113,293 posts)
17. if his hands were filled with cigars (and what kind of fool would be carrying them in his
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 06:14 PM
Aug 2014

hands if he just stole them), what was he choking or beating the officer with?

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
18. That was the point of Dorian bringing it up, that his hands were full so he couldn't have reached
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 06:15 PM
Aug 2014

for the gun or assaulted the officer or anything.

sunnystarr

(2,638 posts)
11. Those were like 99 cent cigars ...
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 05:23 PM
Aug 2014

They sell individually, in a box of 5 for about $4.50 and in a box of 100 for around $49. I don't think he was toting a box of 100 of them.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
14. Oh. I got the price off of the police report.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 05:36 PM
Aug 2014

I don't know how many he was carrying. But it really doesn't matter. Even if he were carrying $490 worth it doesn't warrant him being shot in the back.

sunnystarr

(2,638 posts)
19. You got that right ...
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 06:17 PM
Aug 2014

it just burns me that they had to inflate the price of the cigarillo's too. It's also irritating that they put the names on the incident report retroactively. At the time of the incident that officer didn't have them identified to put all their personal info on the report and to link it to the shooting in the report. The shooting had nothing to do with the shoplifting.

 

cleduc

(653 posts)
7. I don't have a problem with them releasing the story about the robbery
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 04:55 PM
Aug 2014

It may provide some motive for the altercation that went on before the shooting.

I'm not saying it gets the police officer off the hook but it provides some balance and may help a few folks calm down to contemplate that there are two sides to the story and therefore, to let the wheels of justice roll on rather than riot and take matters into their own hands.

Although it may have no direct bearing on the case, I also didn't mind finding out about this either:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/08/15/the-day-ferguson-cops-were-caught-in-a-bloody-lie.html
Maybe some good will come from Mike Brown's loss of life to help address that injustice while we're at it.

Cockroaches don't like bright lights shone on them.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
9. The video doesn't look anywhere near as violent as the still photos
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 05:03 PM
Aug 2014

The incident on the video looks like Brown was on his way out and shoved the store owner aside, which took fractions of a second. The still photos make it look like he's attacking the store owner and grabbing him around the neck. Brown doesn't come off looking good either way, but I completely agree with the Brown family attorney that the choice of specific still photos paint a different picture and looked calculated to show him in the most unfavorable light.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
16. You know it's gotta chap their collective ass that he came in and got near-instant success
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 05:53 PM
Aug 2014

with a low-key community policing approach. It makes it obvious that their geared-up confrontational style was a big fat fail.

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