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Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 12:10 PM Aug 2014

Marine who urinated on corpses in Afghanistan dies at age 28

http://www.sfgate.com/news/us/article/Marine-who-urinated-on-corpses-in-Afghanistan-dies-5691196.php

who urinated on corpses in Afghanistan dies

RALEIGH, N.C. (AP) — A decorated retired Marine whose career as a sniper was derailed by a video that showed him urinating on the corpses of Taliban fighters has died, his attorney said Friday.

Cpl. Robert Richards, 28, was found dead Wednesday by his wife at their Jacksonville home, Attorney Guy Womack said. Neither foul play nor suicide is suspected.

The death was most likely from Richards changing medications he took because of injuries he suffered in a roadside bomb during one of his three tours in Afghanistan, Womack said.

Richards was demoted from sergeant after a video showed four Camp Lejeune Marines — in full body armor — urinating on three Afghans in 2011. One Marine looks down at the bodies and jokes, "Have a good day, buddy."

The video was posted on YouTube in early 2012. It was condemned internationally and caused outrage in the Middle East.

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Marine who urinated on corpses in Afghanistan dies at age 28 (Original Post) Liberal_in_LA Aug 2014 OP
This is definitely a time for me to say nothing at all. Schema Thing Aug 2014 #1
+1 Initech Aug 2014 #24
May he rest in peace. hrmjustin Aug 2014 #2
+1 pintobean Aug 2014 #3
+1 In_The_Wind Aug 2014 #9
I better just keep quiet and say nothing here bluestateguy Aug 2014 #4
Winning hearts and minds as always gyroscope Aug 2014 #5
The glory and honor of war. n/t earthside Aug 2014 #6
Dulce et Decorum est: WinkyDink Aug 2014 #18
Camp Lejeune / Jacksonville is the home of much of my early school years 2banon Aug 2014 #7
What a tragedy all the way around. Jackpine Radical Aug 2014 #8
Anything I say here might be considered desecration of the man who just died. Iggo Aug 2014 #10
Changing medications caused his death? Avalux Aug 2014 #11
very strange for a 28 yr old to die from that cause Liberal_in_LA Aug 2014 #12
Heath Ledger... murielm99 Aug 2014 #26
awful, awful effect of war bigtree Aug 2014 #13
Another victim of our illegal occupations of foreign lands. sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #14
God speed in the next life. Eleanors38 Aug 2014 #15
Winner of the "creepiest subordinate clause of the year" award: Smarmie Doofus Aug 2014 #16
Don't get angry... PowerToThePeople Aug 2014 #17
i think he/she was being sarcastic Liberal_in_LA Aug 2014 #21
I was being a smartass. A common reaction when war atrocities are revealed.... Smarmie Doofus Aug 2014 #22
RIP Devil Dog rudolph the red Aug 2014 #19
Karma Stinky The Clown Aug 2014 #20
RIP 99Forever Aug 2014 #23
The article is interesting. delta17 Aug 2014 #27
RIP and Semper Fidelis. IronGate Aug 2014 #25
He was young and did something monumentally stupid. Inkfreak Aug 2014 #28
 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
18. Dulce et Decorum est:
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 02:00 PM
Aug 2014

Bent double, like old beggars under sacks,
Knock-kneed, coughing like hags, we cursed through sludge,
Till on the haunting flares we turned our backs
And towards our distant rest began to trudge.
Men marched asleep. Many had lost their boots
But limped on, blood-shod. All went lame; all blind;
Drunk with fatigue; deaf even to the hoots
Of tired, outstripped Five-Nines that dropped behind.
Gas! Gas! Quick, boys! – An ecstasy of fumbling,
Fitting the clumsy helmets just in time;
But someone still was yelling out and stumbling,
And flound'ring like a man in fire or lime . . .
Dim, through the misty panes( and thick green light,
As under a green sea, I saw him drowning.
In all my dreams, before my helpless sight,
He plunges at me, guttering, choking, drowning.
If in some smothering dreams you too could pace
Behind the wagon that we flung him in,
And watch the white eyes writhing in his face,
His hanging face, like a devil's sick of sin;
If you could hear, at every jolt, the blood
Come gargling from the froth-corrupted lungs,
Obscene as cancer, bitter as the cud
Of vile, incurable sores on innocent tongues,
My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
To children ardent for some desperate glory,
The old Lie; Dulce et Decorum est
Pro patria mori.

Wilfred Owen
Thought to have been written between 8 October 1917 and March, 1918
http://www.warpoetry.co.uk/owen1.html

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
7. Camp Lejeune / Jacksonville is the home of much of my early school years
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 12:18 PM
Aug 2014

My dad was stationed there for a number of years, interrupted with tours to Vietnam. In part, Camp Lejeune and the Vietnam war is why and how I became an antiwar activist.

Or maybe it was bound to happen regardless of where I was raised.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
8. What a tragedy all the way around.
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 12:18 PM
Aug 2014

This man was twisted by war and jingoism, as much a victim as a pawn of the Empire.

Humans have the capacity to be magnificent, and the capacity to be deformed in the soul. Nobody really chooses the latter course. It is something wrought upon them by some toxic combinations of genetics and experience. Even a Rove or a Cheney. We need to protect ourselves from these monsters rather than allowing them to climb into positions of power over others, but I think we need also to pity them and, where possible, to heal them.

Iggo

(47,552 posts)
10. Anything I say here might be considered desecration of the man who just died.
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 12:22 PM
Aug 2014

And that would be utterly disgusting and wrong.

murielm99

(30,740 posts)
26. Heath Ledger...
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 02:56 PM
Aug 2014

My husband served on a coroner's jury. A man died from mixing up his meds. He was not this young, but not a senior citizen. It can happen. We are juggling with some very potent drugs these days.

RIP to all concerned.

 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
16. Winner of the "creepiest subordinate clause of the year" award:
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 01:47 PM
Aug 2014

>>>whose career as a sniper was derailed by a video that showed him urinating on the corpses of Taliban fighters>>>>>

Now excuse me while I get mad at whomever took that video!

And LEAKED it. ( No pun intended.)

 

PowerToThePeople

(9,610 posts)
17. Don't get angry...
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 01:55 PM
Aug 2014
Now excuse me while I get mad at whomever took that video!

And LEAKED it. ( No pun intended.)


I am proud of whoever leaked the video, as otherwise we would not know the horrible things done in our name.

May this Marine rest in peece.
 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
22. I was being a smartass. A common reaction when war atrocities are revealed....
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 02:11 PM
Aug 2014

... I'm not telling you anything you don't know, apparently... is for people ( usually people who are to some degree *responsible* for the policy that produced the atrocity; go figure.) to fly into a demented rage ... not at the atrocity or the person committing it....but at the person or persons who brought said atrocity to their attention.

Manning, Ellsberg, Greenwald, Snowden, et al et al et al.

They're eeeeevil.

*EEEEeeeevil*, I tells ya!!!

delta17

(283 posts)
27. The article is interesting.
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 03:02 PM
Aug 2014

He was deployed several times, badly wounded, and saw his friend lose his legs. He did something very wrong by urinating on those corpses. He died at age 28, possibly because of medication for his injuries.

Basically, this guy was put through the ringer and died way too young. I think his story shows that if you send people to war multiple times, without the coping mechanisms that most of us have at home, the results will be ugly. I don't condone what this guy did, but I think the system is partly to blame.

Inkfreak

(1,695 posts)
28. He was young and did something monumentally stupid.
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 05:35 PM
Aug 2014

But it is sad that yet another person has died due to an unjust war. May he rest in peace

He did a disrespectful thing. It was incredibly poor form. I have no idea how his life panned out afterword. Maybe he regretted it, maybe not. I hope he did. My thoughts are with his family.

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