Looks like Mike had is hands up and...

[ChisolmTrailDem]

...Wilson's shot cluster was high and to the left of center mass. Wilson was going for the head, not center mass.

[FarPoint]

1. That's my opinion as well.

I posted a thread to that affect earlier this am.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

3. Sorry FarPoint, I haven't seen your post yet but will look for it. It's obvious,

isn't it?

[FarPoint]

4. Good discussion point we have here...

Mine is titled Michael Browns autopsy diagram in GD forum.

[MohRokTah]

2. I wish I had photoshop skills.

I can see clearly the tight pattern high and to the left of center mass.

But if somebody could shop this graphic to show the hands raised, I think it would be clear to everybody where Wilson aimed and what happened to Brown.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

5. Move the lower arm shots up into a hands-up position and you have the entire cluster

of shots in the same tight pattern, high and to the left. Aiming for the head. I thought cops were supposed to fire on center mass.

[alcibiades_mystery]

29. Here ya go

Not the best version, as his arms would be slightly bent, producing an even closer grouping, but one gets the idea.

[BklnDem75]

6. Whether Michael got shot in the eye or neck first...

Clearly this 'officer' didn't feel that was enough so he kept on shooting.

[onecaliberal]

31. The eye shot probably dropped him.

The head shot killed him instantly.

[Hangingon]

35. ME said eye was an exit wound.

[MohRokTah]

7. Pathologists who performed this autopsy giving a press conference.

I've been watching it. He was asked if the wounds could be consistent with Brown charging the officer. Said it was possible and demonstrated how Brown would have had to have his head bent down, charging like a bull.

Possible? Yes. Likely? I sincerely doubt it.

[exboyfil]

17. What is height of cop

versus Brown? Cop's gun held at chest height. How far would Brown have to be bent down to be charging like a bull.

[MohRokTah]

21. Shot is at the apex of the head.

So nearly 90 degrees.

[shraby]

10. You're out of line calling the young man a "big buck" Humans are humans,

not animals.

[politicat]

13. There's a phrase in that post that might want to edit.

Referring to a human by a word typically used for livestock is problematic at very best, and buck has a long history as a slur. It comes from the time when people were considered livestock.

[4139]

9. Looking at the one on the thumb/hand and the others...

...they could have been made with hands in front with elbows bent like running....
Or hand up first, then falling... Falling would explain the top of the head

[shraby]

11. I think like Moh does..he was already dead with the shot by the eye

and was falling forward when he got the shot in the top of the head. The photo doesn't show the angle of the top shot. That would tell the story.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

12. He wasn't running when he was shot. Do this experiment, look at the diagram and then

raise your own arms up in a surrender position.

Every shot is in a cluster now. And you can't do that, even if you're the best shot on the planet, to somone who is running. He was standing still and surrendering and was shot dead in the head.

[GliderGuider]

15. Agreed. It looks more and more like an execution.

The shot cluster tells the tale.

My suspicion is roid rage. I think an enraged Wilson threw the the door open hard, and it bounced back off Brown and smackedWilson in the head. The sudden pain triggered him and all residual self-restraint evaporated. He jumped out into the street and aimed for Brown's head as retribution.

JMHO.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

18. EXACTLY! ^^^^^^^ EXACTLY! nt

[Cosmocat]

28. Wison botched this from moment one and it would not surprise me if he was using

something, not just roids.

Would explain why they put him in hiding like they did, to let his blood clear.

[VScott]

26. According to the coroners report

Brown was hit 3 times in the right arm.

The wound on the palm/thumb is an exit wound, most likely from the bullet that struck him in the forearm

[gordianot]

14. That was my thought also. A prime example of someone who should not be a Policeman...

and for that matter handle fire arms. Just a guess but he squeezed off rounds before he may have realized what he was doing. Shooting targeting the hand then hits the head as surrendering man child falls over forward or back (less likely?) who knows yet? What totally sets me off he may have grabbed a 6 foot 4inch 300 pound kid through the window of his police vehicle and only gets out to shoot him. There was rage in that Police Officer.

Whatever the truth a defense story for Officer Wilson will be hard to impossible to make up. What the stupid Police Chief has said so far may have doomed their case even if they had one. The rage starting with Officer Wilson has managed to spread and intensify.

As a former school administrator you do not deescalate angry 18 years olds with anger or threats. Although they are adult in body they are still developing cognitively in their emotional responses.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

16. Aiming for the head, against all training, is an act of RAGE. tn

[azmom]

32. And a final deadly shot

He wanted Mike dead. In his mind Mike had committed the deadly act of assaulting an officer even though it sounds like he was the one responsible for the door slamming in his racist face.

[gordianot]

34. If nothing else this incident is a good story why no firearms for teachers or administrators.

That big kid may have had an attitude he reminded me from what little I saw of other big kids I have known. I can envision them walking down the middle of the street with a swagger. You sure do not grab them then shoot them.

I am headed back to my arm chair but I spent 32 years handling big and small kids with attitudes to severe behavior disorders.

[snooper2]

19. I'm suprised the DU collective hasn't solved this case by now-

Is there going to be a formal write-up provided soon?

[ChisolmTrailDem]

20. I don't know. I thought you were supposed to be writing it up. So,

where is it?

[snooper2]

22. I never passed my armchair degree, just quit going to classes halfway through LOL

call me lazy

[ChisolmTrailDem]

23. Would you like DUers to stop talking about anything they're not formally trained in or discussing

anything they have no intimate knowledge of?

[snooper2]

27. I have no control, it is kind of fun to watch though, like when we made fun of "Dr." Frist

diagnosing from the Senate floor.....


I'll just wait to hear what the FBI says

[onecaliberal]

33. Yes you don't mind waiting because

It wasn't your son shot dead in the street.

[VScott]

24. The problem with that diagram and trying to draw any conclusions from it

is that it's a generic template used by the ME to indicate the location of the bullet entrance and exit wounds.

It tells nothing about the victims body position or angle at the moment the bullets struck him.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

25. It shows a tight cluster of shots if the arms were up in a surrender position. But, other than that

you're right, it tells nothing.

[VScott]

30. Brown was a big kid

no question about that... meaning he had sizable/beefy arms.

But, it either means Wilson was a crack shot and was capable of firing a string of 3 shots to hit a narrow vertical target like that, or
it was just plain dumb luck.