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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhat is amazing about Ferguson is that
this town had not blown up before now. This town was a powder keg and the death of Michael Brown lit the fuse. The second biggest source of income has been from court costs/charges. Over 24,0000 arrest warrants issued on 2013. A prosecutor who has a history of backing the police on bad shoots. The more that comes out about this town the more you become horrified for what the people have been forced to live with.
valerief
(53,235 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)How many obscure towns out there are bringing back Jim Crow and exploiting the poor in this manner? And with military equipment on top of it all!
I hope the residents of those towns are paying attention, and realize they can change the status quo!
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)But you get a million and one sophistries and deflections and personal anecdotes and such sad pitiful harrumphing when you discuss white privilege.
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)Regardless of what some people may want to believe, there are many people who might otherwise be receptive to listening, hesitate to do so because of the impression that is very often given off, primarily because so many adopters of said term take it WAY too literally(And, btw, please do spare me the "but you DO have white privilege" line, okay? No intention to be harsh here, but it distracts badly from the conversation).
If we want to educate people so badly, just make it simple and straight to the point: "systemic disadvantage" would work just fine. And there's other descriptors that would work as well, just as good as, perhaps even better than, the example I've used here.
AndyTiedye
(23,500 posts)"White privilege" certainly exists, but it has to do with privileges.
Summary execution by cop is an egregious violation of RIGHTS.
The fact that minorities have their rights violated systematically is a far worse problem than "white privilege".
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)littlemissmartypants
(22,649 posts)Ineeda
(3,626 posts)(probably) that generated a 12% voter turn-out in 2012, according to Rev Al last night. So if this isn't the place for a vigorous GOTV campaign, I don't know where is. And that goes for other disenfranchised communities, as well.
mysuzuki2
(3,521 posts)Everyone, from the top dow, has to go. I'm sorry if this causes decent people to be fired but I see no choice. Hire a new chief, new officers everything.
Yes I called for the exact same thing in another thread. They need to start from scratch and put that police dept under monitoring from the civil rights division of the justice department for as long as necessary to rebuilt it.
barbtries
(28,789 posts)should be brought up on obstruction of justice charges.
i think of Philadelphia, MS.
http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/slain-civil-rights-workers-found
in this town the white people were so dominant they just murdered three people with total impunity and no regrets. none of them spent over 6 years in prison following the first trial. The judge said, "They killed one nigger, one Jew, and a white man. I gave them what I thought they deserved."
it's a mindset and somehow Ferguson MO really reminds me of this. the police don't get that they are wrong - or they don't want to get it. they are so fucking comfortable with their racist ways. they are so far removed from acknowledging that black people are people (think about the cop yelling "bring it you fucking animals" .
they need to go. there must be consequences for this type of criminality. at some point there must be Justice.
ThoughtCriminal
(14,047 posts)Ferguson is everywhere.
malaise
(268,968 posts)exist across America.
Start looking at every little town near big cities and count your way across the country.
That's a map of Kingston, Jamaica
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)based upon IP.
Type United States into the search bar and follow my directions from there.
tavalon
(27,985 posts)No, not a small town but quite like Ferguson in its racial profiling and dangerous thug roid raging police.
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)badtoworse
(5,957 posts)avebury
(10,952 posts)a story of 2 black men, unarmed, sitting in a car. Police supposedly shot them 20 times and the Prosecutor called it a good shoot and refused to indict. I didn't hear much beyond that. This happened a few years ago.
Here is more info I found. Different town by Prosecutor McCullogh:
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/metro/st-louis-prosecutor-has-faced-controversy-for-decades/article_cdd4c104-6086-506e-9ee8-aa957a31fee5.html
In 2001, two undercover drug officers from Dellwood shot and killed two men on the parking lot of a Jack in the Box in north St. Louis County. The officers said the suspects, who had prior felony convictions for drug and assault offenses, tried to escape arrest and then drove toward the officers.
A subsequent federal investigation showed that the men were unarmed and that their car had not moved forward when the officers fired 21 shots and killed the suspects, Earl Murray and Ronald Beasley. The probe, however, also concluded that because the officers feared for their safety, the shootings were justified.
McCulloch didnt prosecute the officers. He specifically drew the ire of defense lawyers and protesters, who had been holding demonstrations and threatened to block Highway 40,when he said of Murray and Beasley, These guys were bums.
Dustlawyer
(10,495 posts)He works with the cops on all of his prosecutions so he can't very well go after a local cop, they would HATE him forever for doing his job. I believe the local DA's should never be in charge of prosecuting local law enforcement.