It's a war zone now.

[joshcryer]

This is going to be a very bad night.

[Horse with no Name]

1. I am afraid you are correct.

The police are inciting violence.

I bet they find it.

[joshcryer]

4. And unfortunately the media had to escape.

So we won't see it going down. Maybe in personal videos by protesters later on.

[Live and Learn]

7. Vice is still in the middle of it. nt

[joshcryer]

12. They are quite far from the site now.

Hopefully they can get interviews from the protester side who managed to escape.

[Live and Learn]

19. Tim is quite shaken up. nt

[joshcryer]

25. I don't think VICE thought they needed a war correspondent.

First time you get shot at and if you aren't familiar with it it's very very terrifying (know from experience). Tim covered Occupy extensively (his claim to fame actually), but they never had live bullets flying around.

You could actually hear the bullets wizz by Tim's head during the stream. Zip zip zip. Very hard sound to miss.

[2banon]

37. "Vice"? who/what are you referring to?

Down thread I realized "Vice" isn't referring to "Vice Squad" as in police depts.. Is it a reality tv show or something? and someone down thread mentioned "Tim".. Who is that?

[Live and Learn]

49. Live Streamers Vice News on you tube and Tim Pool from Timcast. nt

[Live and Learn]

11. And Mike Brown's is up too. nt

[joshcryer]

14. Thanks a lot watching him now too.

[MohRokTah]

2. Johnson is every bit as fascist as Jackson

He's been lying his ass off all along.

[AuntPatsy]

6. You think he was playing Good Cop Bad Cop?

[MohRokTah]

13. He's nothing more than fascist cop

That appears to be the default position of cops.

[AuntPatsy]

20. I do have a feeling but was hoping I was wrong, you want to have faith in people but

Time and time again the human race fails us..

[valerief]

10. He's a Colin Powell. nt

[hardcover]

16. Why? Where is he?

I'm sorry to keep asking so many questions but I can't keep up there is so much going on.

[MohRokTah]

17. On the streets ordering cops to tear gas peaceful protesters

Saw it live on MSNBC moments ago.

[hardcover]

27. Capt. Johnson? the guy who walked with the protesters?

[MohRokTah]

28. Yes. eom

[hardcover]

31. What the Hell!

[MohRokTah]

32. Watched it live on TRMS moments ago.

Ron Johnson started a police riot.

[valerief]

3. Fallujah, Missouri. nt

[VanGoghRocks]

59. Fergaza

[flamingdem]

5. Has anyone seen the National Guard troops?

They didn't know how to deploy them or didn't listen. I can't imagine they're in favor of this over the top behavior

[steve2470]

8. not yet, only MHP and SLC nt

[flamingdem]

35. I need a translation

what is MHP and SLC?

[steve2470]

36. Missouri Highway Patrol, St. Louis County police, my bad, nt

[flamingdem]

38. No problem, I know

you wrote you've been watching all day so you must recognize half of the players now!

I wonder if we could hear a police scanner from there, would be interesting.

[steve2470]

39. try this link

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/st-louis-county-police-scanner

[notadmblnd]

34. They're protecting the police from all the unarmed protesters

Is that ironic or what?

[rollin74]

9. lots of live gunfire

[Live and Learn]

15. lots of gunshots now. nt

[NutmegYankee]

18. Who is firing?

Are the police using rubber bullets again?

[rollin74]

21. livestreamer Tim Pool (Vice News) says people firing lots of gunshots near his position

say it was NOT the police shooting

[Live and Learn]

24. Mike Brown's link said they thought it was both police and protestors.

I don't think anyone really knows.

[Live and Learn]

22. No real bullets this time. Nobody sure who was firing.

May have been both protestors and police. All while the tear gas was going.

[steve2470]

23. Tim said live fire from protestor side

I'm assuming rubber bullets from the cops.

[Live and Learn]

43. A cop just confirmed that it wasn't them that fired. nt

[kath]

55. Who here believes a single freakin' word that the cops say?

Not me.

[Live and Learn]

60. Not me either. Just reporting what he said.

Actually, he said it was the "bad guys," which gave me pause.

[kath]

63. I know. it wasn't you I was screaming at. just really going batshit crazy at all this.

"The bad guys" - the #^}*!*# pigs are the bad guys.

[kath]

63. Deleted -hit a posting glitch, so got posted in triplicate

[kath]

63. Deleted - duplicate and triplicate

[VanGoghRocks]

66. That cop, aside from some not-so-latent sexism -- watch 'Full Metal Jacket' for

more on 'bad guys' as snipers -- has a serious case of irony-deficiency and should take some irony supplements.

[steve2470]

29. Alice from Vice saying building being set on fire, per Tim nt

[JI7]

30. guy said on CNN that it's known among the community that they are expected to be off

the streets after a certain time. it sounded like he was referring to how things usually are. even before these riots or the shooting of brown.

that it's something the cops expect of the black community.

[ecstatic]

33. The police are 100% at fault, not the media

From day 1, they've trampled on people's first amendment rights, causing more anger and restlessness. There are always protests after police murders, the difference is, the police in places like New York and Atlanta GTFO the way and let people protest in peace. For some reason, the Ferguson police could not let that happen.

[R B Garr]

42. Exactly! Ferguson police are not ready for prime time and are in over their heads.

What an obvious lack of basic diversity training and tactics.

[kath]

58. + a brazillion

[steve2470]

40. tactical sweep, going house to house by police nt

[steve2470]

41. someone shot with live ammo, media being pushed back nt

[steve2470]

44. arrests been made at Ferguson and Florissant nt

[joshcryer]

45. These designated media areas are BS.

I can't believe the media is complying with it, either.

[steve2470]

46. agreed nt

[joshcryer]

47. At least Mike Brown is calling it BS.

They are so utterly disorganized, too. Some guys telling people one thing, others telling them something else entirely.

[steve2470]

48. sounds like Jake Tapper of CNN is not having it either nt

[Live and Learn]

50. There is no designated media area. They are just running them around. nt

[joshcryer]

51. True, but at the time of comment they had a yellow tape area.

And Tim and Alice were being told to go to it.

[Live and Learn]

52. I know. What a bunch of crap that was. And now they are running the Argus radio

guy all over town. nt

[joshcryer]

53. Brown's feed is top notch.

Surprised VICE doesn't have the dough for such a setup.

[Live and Learn]

57. I like having both. Different approaches. This is a news black out

right now though.

[VanGoghRocks]

54. Which side are you on, now, which side are

you on?

They say in Ferguson Town
There are no neutrals then
You'll either be a rebel son
Or a thug for 'Culloch's men.

Which side are you on?
Which side are you on?
Which side are you on?
Which side are you on?

RIP Pete Seeger.

[99th_Monkey]

56. The provocateurs win again!

Just like with Occupy Wall St.

[Live and Learn]

61. By provocateurs, do you mean the police? nt

[99th_Monkey]

62. Yes, the police, AND whoever threw shit or looted or whatever

on nights past.

You are correct I think that tonight there was no looting, no Molotov cocktails.

[Live and Learn]

67. Agreed. nt

[joshcryer]

68. The people shooting don't justify this reaction.

Just like people kicking over garbage cans didn't justify the crackdown on Occupy.

[Warpy]

69. So far, no one besides Brown has gotten killed.

But patience is going to run out sooner or later if they keep stonewalling filing charges against Wilson.

The whole of the forensic evidence will either exonerate or convict him. He needs to be charged. though. This won't stop until he is.