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WilliamPitt

(58,179 posts)
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 12:24 PM Aug 2014

I think the word I'm looking for is AAAAAARRRRGGGGHH!!!!!

In Iraq, US Is Spending Millions to Blow Up Captured American War Machines

Last week was a weird one for American military hardware.

In the United States, Mine-Resistant Ambush Protected vehicles (MRAPs), AR-15s and camouflage body armor all made an appearance on the streets of a suburb in the heartland, helping to give a tense situation the push needed to turn into a week of riots. American citizens in Ferguson, Missouri, feeling they were being occupied by a foreign army, rather than their friendly neighborhood cop on the beat.

(SNIP)

Now, U.S. warplanes are flying sorties, at a cost somewhere between $22,000 to 30,000 per hour for the F-16s, to drop bombs that cost at least $20,000 each, to destroy this captured equipment.

That means if an F-16 were to take off from Incirclik Air Force Base in Turkey and fly two hours to Erbil, Iraq, and successfully drop both of its bombs on one target each, it costs the United States somewhere between $84,000 to $104,000 for the sortie and destroys a minimum of $1 million and a maximum of $12 million in U.S.-made equipment.

The rest: http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2014/08/18/how-much-it-costs-the-u-s-to-blow-up-captured-u-s-military-hardware-in-iraq/

...and:

Georgia County Won't Pay Medical Bills for Toddler Critically Injured by Flash Bang Grenade During Drug Raid

(snip)

Earlier this year, we brought you the story of Baby Bounkham, who was severely injured after a Georgia SWAT team threw a flashbang grenade that landed inside Bounkham's crib—cops were serving a drug warrant based on information from a confidential informant about a small amount of meth. The raid yielded no drugs and no suspect. Cops insisted they did what they could to prepare and didn't know there were children in the house, two seemingly contradictory contentions. The sad case illustrates the interplay between the war on drugs, militarized police, and police brutality.

The story didn't elicit national outrage, and a friend of the family raised just $38,000 in two months to cover Boumkham's medical bills. They're going to need more than that, as the county government has ruled it would be a "violation of the law" for it to pick up the medical costs their officers created the necessity for.

The rest: http://reason.com/blog/2014/08/19/georgia-county-wont-pay-medical-bills-fo

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I think the word I'm looking for is AAAAAARRRRGGGGHH!!!!! (Original Post) WilliamPitt Aug 2014 OP
I'm wit you... NYC_SKP Aug 2014 #1
... SammyWinstonJack Aug 2014 #2
For the plutocracy, this is a feature, not a bug. phantom power Aug 2014 #3
good point Roy Rolling Aug 2014 #15
No much I'm proud of anymore newfie11 Aug 2014 #4
This country has turned into hifiguy Aug 2014 #5
+1 Enthusiast Aug 2014 #13
Every day the news gets suckier. Owl Aug 2014 #6
K&R!!!! For exposure. Let's fight the Plutocracy by taking away their ability to control our Dustlawyer Aug 2014 #7
Publicly Funded Elections should be foremost in the Democratic Party platform. Enthusiast Aug 2014 #11
That's because they like that corporate money too. It will take enough voters being actively Dustlawyer Aug 2014 #18
I hear you, but. Enthusiast Aug 2014 #19
Hell yes. And you if you can't keep the corporate money out of elections. raouldukelives Aug 2014 #25
Wait so we're spending our own money to blow up equipment that we own that was captured by Iraq? Initech Aug 2014 #8
Like this wasn't forseen? Owl Aug 2014 #23
Bernie Sanders Has a Brilliant Idea: Instead of Giving Police Tanks, Let’s Create Jobs riverbendviewgal Aug 2014 #9
I think in a republicans mind this does create jobs. logosoco Aug 2014 #16
Well that's Bernie, possibly the last good soul. Enthusiast Aug 2014 #20
I agree riverbendviewgal Aug 2014 #21
Yes he is. 840high Aug 2014 #27
Kicked and recommended! I'm with you, WilliamPitt. Enthusiast Aug 2014 #10
Slightly? I think that is putting it mildly. Paper Roses Aug 2014 #29
I'm with you, Paper Roses. Enthusiast Aug 2014 #30
Speakin' to the choir here. ballyhoo Aug 2014 #12
Not a child of privileged (read rethuglican) parents. lpbk2713 Aug 2014 #14
The war on drugs is police brutality. n/t iscooterliberally Aug 2014 #17
I'm surprised the MIC doesn't just put an expiration date in the firmware IDemo Aug 2014 #22
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #24
Alternate thread title: What's wrong with this picture? Martin Eden Aug 2014 #26
K&R JEB Aug 2014 #28

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
7. K&R!!!! For exposure. Let's fight the Plutocracy by taking away their ability to control our
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 02:10 PM
Aug 2014

Government! Let's do everything in our power to fight for Publicly Funded Elections! Outlaw all campaign contributions and make the MSM air campaign ads as a public service for using our airwaves! If they can't buy the politicians legally we will see a return of Representative Democracy and all that comes with it. Wall Streeters and other white collar criminals will start being prosecuted and going to jail. Oligarchies in media, phone, cable, and banking can be broken up!

This is why America is falling! I am sure Romans kept saying "We're number 1" long after they weren't either. Other countries vote in much higher percentages because they know how bad things can get. We have been fortunate, but spoiled in our thinking. Before things get much worse, our environment included, we need to wake up and use our Democracy! The founding fathers counted on us to be the check on over-reach by the government and the Plutocracy. They gave us these rights to use in case of Emergency, it's time to break the glass!!!

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
11. Publicly Funded Elections should be foremost in the Democratic Party platform.
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 02:40 PM
Aug 2014

Unfortunately you seldom hear them speak of it.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
18. That's because they like that corporate money too. It will take enough voters being actively
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 05:39 PM
Aug 2014

involved in writing and calling elected Representatives, posting, blogging, spreading the word, and marching/protesting peaceably to convince them they have to give up their addiction to campaign cash. Maybe Ferguson has lit a match, remains to be seen if it is dry enough to catch. The midterms would be the perfect time to do it. If we could just make enough people aware!

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
19. I hear you, but.
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 06:05 PM
Aug 2014

Don't they recognize how truly fucked up this nation has become? Don't they want to help correct our errant course? I thought they comprised the Democratic Party.

raouldukelives

(5,178 posts)
25. Hell yes. And you if you can't keep the corporate money out of elections.
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 08:05 PM
Aug 2014

At least we still have the freedom to keep our money & time out of helping them succeed in those ends.
Sadly, those who profit from investments and oiling the oligarchy machine prefer the money to doing the right thing for this and future generations.
It is where liberal idealism rubber meets the proverbial road. Just as people who profited from slavery. Some had the ability to see past the dollar signs and do the right thing. Some reacted with rage and fear. Wondering where the money would come from.

Think climate change as an issue is bigger than slavery? I do. I think its bigger and more evil than anything this world and those who would champion human and animal rights could ever imagine. It is a damn shame it is the way it is. I wish with with all my heart and soul it wasn't this way, but it is. We are dying out here, animals are suffering, our future looks bleak at best. In the face of that assured suffering and misery, to still hold out and support the plutocracy, is just as bad as being any redneck plantation owner who ever lived. And in the arc of history, for the future of this planet and its lifeforms, far worse.

Owl

(3,641 posts)
23. Like this wasn't forseen?
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 07:30 PM
Aug 2014

Maybe it would have been more sensible and cheaper to have blown the crap up beforehand?



We wasted money building the crap, wasted money using the crap. Now waste even more money blowing up the crap!!

riverbendviewgal

(4,252 posts)
9. Bernie Sanders Has a Brilliant Idea: Instead of Giving Police Tanks, Let’s Create Jobs
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 02:36 PM
Aug 2014
Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) has a brilliant idea. Instead of militarizing local police departments with tanks and heavy equipment, the country should take the billions of dollars and use it to create jobs.
it might be a good idea that instead of putting heavy equipment into police departments in those areas, we start creating jobs for the kids there who desperately need them.

http://www.politicususa.com/2014/08/18/bernie-sanders-brilliant-idea-giving-police-tanks-create-jobs.html

logosoco

(3,208 posts)
16. I think in a republicans mind this does create jobs.
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 03:02 PM
Aug 2014

Once all of that stuff is destroyed, they will just make more.

It's like a game to them.

riverbendviewgal

(4,252 posts)
21. I agree
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 07:07 PM
Aug 2014

It is so sad that he won't be Democratic president nominee. Or Elizabeth Warren or Alan Grayson. They are the puppets of the oligarchy.

Paper Roses

(7,473 posts)
29. Slightly? I think that is putting it mildly.
Wed Aug 20, 2014, 05:13 AM
Aug 2014

I'm so upset and overwhelmed by events these last few weeks. This old brain cannot handle much more and stay reasonably sane.

lpbk2713

(42,757 posts)
14. Not a child of privileged (read rethuglican) parents.
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 02:41 PM
Aug 2014



Therefore it's OK to let this one slip through the cracks.




IDemo

(16,926 posts)
22. I'm surprised the MIC doesn't just put an expiration date in the firmware
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 07:26 PM
Aug 2014

Maybe include a pop-up notice on the tank or fighter jet -"Your license has expired. Please see your McDonnell Douglas representative for details about exciting upgrades."

Martin Eden

(12,864 posts)
26. Alternate thread title: What's wrong with this picture?
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 11:09 PM
Aug 2014

Perhaps the biggest problem is the American people (the common people, which includes your average teabagger) are too bitterly divided to stand together for our own common interests.

Our House is divided because the Powers That Be want it that way, and have fostered the polarization of the American electorate.

My biggest hope for President Obama was that his intelligence and eloquence as a speaker combined with his position at the bully pulpit would expose this paradigm for what it is.

And therein lies my biggest disappointment.

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