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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 02:10 PM Aug 2014

Who Cares About Julian Assange?

AUG 18, 2014 2:19 PM EDT
By Marc Champion

Julian Assange, the WikiLeaks founder, says he will "soon" leave his refuge in the Ecuadoran embassy in London, but not when. He says he is sick, but won't say in what way. He says he should be "freed," yet he is a captive by choice.

If Assange is seriously ill, he should of course be given medical attention, but beyond his health it is hard to feel much sympathy. His asylum ploy has been a two-year farce of his choosing.

Assange bolted for the Ecuadoran embassy in 2012, as soon as a U.K. court denied his appeal against extradition to Sweden to face questioning over the accusations of two women that he sexually assaulted them. He says the case is a ruse to get him to Sweden so he can then be extradited to the U.S. There, he suspects he would face prosecution in connection with WikiLeaks's publication of classified military papers documenting the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

There are two things to say about this. First, Assange's conspiracy argument never made sense, even though the U.S. actually is out to get him. There is no reason to believe he can be more easily extradited to the U.S. from Sweden than from the U.K. -- indeed, in terms of legal process, the opposite is true. So this is and always has been about the Swedish case: He should leave his refuge and volunteer to go to Sweden to clear his name.

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http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2014-08-18/who-cares-about-julian-assange

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Who Cares About Julian Assange? (Original Post) DonViejo Aug 2014 OP
I care about Julian Assange. SamKnause Aug 2014 #1
^^^THIS x100^^^ Autumn Aug 2014 #2
Your are most welcome. SamKnause Aug 2014 #4
I care too. n/t bobthedrummer Aug 2014 #3
+100 nilram Aug 2014 #5
I care about all that you listed. OnyxCollie Aug 2014 #6
I'm in agreement with that !!! SamKnause Aug 2014 #7
+100000 Thank you. woo me with science Aug 2014 #8
Well said Oilwellian Aug 2014 #9
I care and stand with all you mentioned. Fantastic Anarchist Aug 2014 #13
As am I. SamKnause Aug 2014 #15
I, I think we are. Fantastic Anarchist Aug 2014 #16
But not women who claim they were sexually assaulted. randome Aug 2014 #17
Obviously the author does whatchamacallit Aug 2014 #10
So I take it the evidence that Assange assaulted these two women is suspect? el_bryanto Aug 2014 #11
I don't care for a rapist. Lancero Aug 2014 #12
Obviously, the CIA, NSA, and FBI care about Julian Assange. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2014 #14
I care. ..nt TeeYiYi Aug 2014 #18

SamKnause

(13,101 posts)
1. I care about Julian Assange.
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 02:17 PM
Aug 2014

I care about WikiLeaks.

I care about Chelsea Manning.

I care about Edward Snowden.

I care about Glenn Greenwald.

I care about Anonymous.

I care about a free press.

I care about net neutrality.

I care about free speech.

I am grateful for all the brave whistleblowers and leakers around the globe !!!!!!!!!!

 

OnyxCollie

(9,958 posts)
6. I care about all that you listed.
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 02:30 PM
Aug 2014

Here's what I don't care about:

Big banks.

Huge corporations.

Mass media.

Politicians who break laws, treaties, etc., and do so with impunity.

Cowardly politicians who are more concerned with marketability than enforcing laws.

Fuck all those people, and fuck the apologists for them as well.

SamKnause

(13,101 posts)
7. I'm in agreement with that !!!
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 02:34 PM
Aug 2014

The pain they have caused, the lives they have ruined, and the blood they have spilled.

Mindboggling if you think about it, truly mindboggling.

Fantastic Anarchist

(7,309 posts)
13. I care and stand with all you mentioned.
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 03:10 PM
Aug 2014

In solidarity with all rabble-rousers, dissenters, working people, oppressed, bombed, sick, poor, gay, straight, male and female.

I stand with all against the system we live in now.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
17. But not women who claim they were sexually assaulted.
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 04:20 PM
Aug 2014

It should have been a very simple matter for a 'hero of the people'. Heroes don't typically run and hide, abuse their friends' money and claim everyone is out to get him.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]The truth doesn’t always set you free.
Sometimes it builds a bigger cage around the one you’re already in.
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el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
11. So I take it the evidence that Assange assaulted these two women is suspect?
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 02:59 PM
Aug 2014

Or is there some other reason why he is avoiding that situation?

Bryant

Lancero

(3,003 posts)
12. I don't care for a rapist.
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 03:06 PM
Aug 2014

And until he goes to face the charges, that is all he is in my mind. That he is refusing to return Sweden to face these charges is a lot of proof saying that he is guilty - If he was innocent of these crimes, why go to such lengths to avoid facing the charges?

Until then, any of his successes are not. Because they will be built on a foundation of rape, a foundation of misogyny, a foundation of inequality.

Not many are interested in holding him accountable for this. The majority of this site is more then willing to give his misogynistic actions a free pass because 'evil gubmint wants him ded!' saying that these charges are 'gubmint haox, not legitimate rape!!!'

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
14. Obviously, the CIA, NSA, and FBI care about Julian Assange.
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 03:13 PM
Aug 2014

Those friends of Justice, Freedom, and the American Way would love to jail another whistle-blower.

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