If you are considering suicide

[randys1]

STOP

1. if it is over money, you can ALWAYS get more money

2. if it is depression, dont take a permanent solution to a temporary problem, please

[el_bryanto]

1. How do you know it's temporary?

sometimes things just are the way they are.

I don't get suicidal thoughts that often (thank goodness) but there's a logic to them.

Bryant

[Mosby]

5. even if its not temporary there are options

TX don't work try another. Unless a person has a terminal illness there is no logic in suicide.

[Maraya1969]

12. Everything changes. Maybe you see things differently, maybe your seratonin

levels go up once your medication starts working. Maybe you learn to not care about things that used to make you unhappy.

Everything changes.

[randys1]

15. As others have said, depression can be helped, it can be temporary in the severity of it...

I dont have clinical depression, I can only ask those who do to not take this final step, please.

[WestCoastLib]

2. #2 - I HATE that saying

I've always hated that saying...

#1 - I think it's not helpful calling it a solution at all.

#2 - Who doesn't want a permanent solution to their problems? Even if my problem is only temporary, of course I want to permanently solve it.

I've always thought that saying was not as clever as it tries to be.

[Skittles]

18. you are correct

makes it sound like the decision is as tough as deciding whether or not to go bowling

[etherealtruth]

3. Two years ago, on or about August 25, 2012

My best friend of 45 years (we met when we were 5), killed herself.

I still grieve her loss and probably always will.

Other than saying that, "I got nothing"

[Tikki]

8. 14 years ago, on August 20th my friend took his life.

I think about him...it stops me in my tracks.

Tikki

[etherealtruth]

9. I think this is something that will never leave us

I am sorry for your pain ... and for whatever the pain was that led your friend to that final decision

[Skittles]

4. please stop with the cliches

money doesn't solve everything and some problems *ARE* permanent

[Adam051188]

6. pretty coarse response...

who knows, maybe he does have a clue

[Skittles]

10. I don't mean to be rough but

that kind of simplistic thinking is very insulting to people who really understand severe depression - it's not a matter of JUST DON'T DO THAT or YOU CAN GET SOME MONEY

I did edit to make less rough

[Maraya1969]

13. It was not meant to be the answer to depression. But if someone tonight was thinking about it

It may have just saved a life.

I know depression is a complicated and often hard thing to treat and to deal with. For me though saying things like, "this will pass" has helped me in emergency situations and I appreciate learning it.

[Skittles]

14. not talking about a bad day, I'm talking about ongoing, severe depression

it's not helped by simplistic thinking

the best advice is to have them seek professional help, not being told you can just "get more money" or your problems are temporary

[randys1]

17. I dont pretend to understand depression, the money comment was about people who do

kill themselves over money, take the 20's depression, happened a lot and there is such anxiety now with the economy I would suspect it could happen again.

[Maraya1969]

19. Sometimes in the middle of the night when you feel like you are going down a black hole

simplistic sayings can help. I know because it has happened to me many times.

I agree that money does not help. Poverty seems like it would make it worse though. And I agree that the person should seek professional help, I certainly did and it saved my life.

I think we agree on most things.

[ScreamingMeemie]

7. It should be so easy...Let us think about 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. and on and on and on...

If it were only as simple as those words you have written:

1. My husband would be alive...
2. I wouldn't be posting this.


Please think before you think you are doing good. I have watched people think they are doing good for going on about 8 days now.

[etherealtruth]

11. I am so sorry for your loss

It is hard enough to lose someone we love ... this, this makes it harder. I have nothing to offer except my sympathy and commiseration.

[Maraya1969]

16. This is a good OP. You never know what will cause a person to reconsider.

And with life there is hope.

[valerief]

20. Some people are at the end of terminal diseases and suicide makes sense.

Please, no blanket finger wags.

[NaturalHigh]

21. Your overly simplistic OP...

shows that you really don't know anything about depression or about people considering suicide. It's insulting and minimizes a complex situation that is unique for everyone.

[NobodyHere]

22. Number 1 sounds oversimplistic

It reminds me of conservatives telling the poor that they just need to work harder.