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deminks

(11,014 posts)
Wed Aug 20, 2014, 10:54 PM Aug 2014

Lawrence O'Donnell is destroying the NYT reporting on Michael Brown today

Last edited Thu Aug 21, 2014, 09:05 AM - Edit history (2)

'They took a leak from the Ferguson Police Department and printed it.'

me: Why does the MEdia still try to phone it in? They can't afford to send somebody to St. Louis???
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video here:

http://on.msnbc.com/1sW3Mut

Update:

O'Donnell wrote a book entitled "Deadly Force", about a 1975 case where two white cops gunned down a black man. Lawrence's father was the widow's attorney. It was made into a movie in 1986.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Case_of_Deadly_Force

I did not know this about him.

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Lawrence O'Donnell is destroying the NYT reporting on Michael Brown today (Original Post) deminks Aug 2014 OP
IT was a very DAMNING piece. MohRokTah Aug 2014 #1
Fantastic segment. Looking forward to posting the video link. Gidney N Cloyd Aug 2014 #2
Saw That !!! - He Destroyed Them !!! WillyT Aug 2014 #3
O'Donnell is a very smart and savy guy, worth the rest of the MSNBC lot all by himself. JaydenD Aug 2014 #8
Looks like NYT has people in Ferguson. elleng Aug 2014 #4
That was so powerful aint_no_life_nowhere Aug 2014 #5
You can when it comes online tonight after Rachel's I believe. Cha Aug 2014 #16
Always happy to see the NYTimes taken down yet another peg. I cancelled my sub to them back in 2003 VanGoghRocks Aug 2014 #18
that was great Marrah_G Aug 2014 #6
What was the leak? babylonsister Aug 2014 #7
This was a story that said things like deminks Aug 2014 #10
"The eye socket lie has really made the rounds today." Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2014 #12
Saw it. Amazing. oldandhappy Aug 2014 #9
Two segments on TLW Tuesday night liberal from boston Aug 2014 #13
"They can't afford to send somebody to St. Louis???" Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2014 #11
Why pay somebody to report when you can print press releases you get for free all day long? Ed Suspicious Aug 2014 #14
Some things with the so-called media don't change. madinmaryland Aug 2014 #15
Please post when there's a link. I don't have cable and depend on video on my computer. Thanks. truth2power Aug 2014 #17
try these... whttevrr Aug 2014 #19
kicking for video link added deminks Aug 2014 #20
I usually avoid caps but that was AWESOME!!!!! Vattel Aug 2014 #21
That was excellent n/t deutsey Aug 2014 #22
kicking for the update deminks Aug 2014 #23
Fantastic indictment of general laziness on the part of the MSM. bullwinkle428 Aug 2014 #24
Or the NYT agenda to maintain the status quo in racist American towns. nt valerief Aug 2014 #27
I watched his report and it's a damning and outragous. myrna minx Aug 2014 #25
Lawrence O'Donnell's holding the giant New York Times accountable for "shoddy" reporting BlueCaliDem Aug 2014 #26

elleng

(130,878 posts)
4. Looks like NYT has people in Ferguson.
Wed Aug 20, 2014, 11:01 PM
Aug 2014

In Ferguson, Scrutiny on Police Is Growing.
By JOHN ELIGON and MICHAEL S. SCHMIDTAUG. 20, 2014

John Eligon reported from Ferguson, and Michael S. Schmidt from Washington. Reporting was contributed by Mosi Secret, Joseph Goldstein and Dan Barry from Ferguson, Matt Apuzzo from Washington, and Kitty Bennett from Seattle.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/21/us/in-ferguson-scrutiny-on-police-is-growing.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&version=HpSum&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
5. That was so powerful
Wed Aug 20, 2014, 11:14 PM
Aug 2014

I wish I could see it again. It was the most thorough discussion of the witness statements I've seen so far. The Times, as manipulated by the Ferguson P.D. as alleged by O'Donnell suggested that witnesses offered differing views but could not describe one dissimilarity. And the Times didn't even mention the most persuasive, disinterested witness, Tiffany Mitchell. And Lawrence O'Donnell suggesting the Times writers were further manipulated by the police when they failed to realize that when Wilson got out of his car and shot at fleeing unarmed suspects he was violating the law in his use of deadly force. The police told the Times writers that the case turned on Brown's action in turning around and coming forward, but failed to describe how he came forward and that Wilson already was performing a criminal act. He raked those Times writers over the coals for letting themselves be police mouthpieces and for failing to do any real homework on the law.

 

VanGoghRocks

(621 posts)
18. Always happy to see the NYTimes taken down yet another peg. I cancelled my sub to them back in 2003
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 02:26 AM
Aug 2014

for their lies cheerleading us into Shocking and Awful, and I haven't looked back since. What a joke they are. (I still have a fondness for Paul Krugman but their reportage on Ukraine was simply atrocious and on Gaza woefully shallow.)

deminks

(11,014 posts)
10. This was a story that said things like
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 12:01 AM
Aug 2014

'contrary to other witnesses' and 'disputed by other witnesses' but never said what the other witnesses reported or listed the other witnesses or gave a clue about the differences between any statements. All casting doubt on the witnesses that have come forward so far. It was like they got the talking points from the Ferguson PD and printed them.

The eye socket lie has really made the rounds today. It's like getting a tour of the right wing noise machine.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
12. "The eye socket lie has really made the rounds today."
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 12:08 AM
Aug 2014

I like to think it's because they just now got around to faking injuries.

You know,....by decking the bastard.

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
9. Saw it. Amazing.
Wed Aug 20, 2014, 11:54 PM
Aug 2014

He manages some brilliant reporting. I do not know how he does it. I have tremendous respect for Lawrence. Also have a lot of admiration for Chris Hayes who has led the on the ground reporting in Ferguson.

13. Two segments on TLW Tuesday night
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 12:08 AM
Aug 2014

I agree. Tuesday Night Lawrence had 2 segments about the DA offering Darren Wilson the opportunity to testify before the Grand Jury. Kudos to Marcia Clark & Jim Cavanaugh.

http://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word-with-lawrence-odonnell/watch/atty.-gen.-holder-to-visit-ferguson-319935555813

Also Lawrence had another segment w/ criminal defense Lawyer Lizzie Brown who was amazing

http://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word-with-lawrence-odonnell/watch/should-the-prosecutor-recuse-himself--319936067851

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
11. "They can't afford to send somebody to St. Louis???"
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 12:04 AM
Aug 2014

That would cut into dividends for the shareholders.

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
14. Why pay somebody to report when you can print press releases you get for free all day long?
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 12:20 AM
Aug 2014

Externalizing the biggest cost in the media business? Yes please says their portfolios. Shareholders love this paradigm. I wish shareholders were actually people.

whttevrr

(2,345 posts)
19. try these...
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 02:46 AM
Aug 2014
http://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word

do not install any video players or plugins from any of the 'free' streaming sites. The only place you should install anything is from official sources. for eample; Flash = Adobe.com

This one has an ad at first and a facebook pop up... but seems innocuous... It is a very new site so its reputation is unknown.

http://www.hulkusaa.com/watch-msnbc-live-streaming/


BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
26. Lawrence O'Donnell's holding the giant New York Times accountable for "shoddy" reporting
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 11:17 AM
Aug 2014

is a lesson in how incredibly good U.S. Media is in propaganda in order to frame a narrative that's complete bull-excrement.

Their goal has been and always will be to protect the powers that be in this country against us serfs (as they see us), and to allow them to continue to murder our children with impunity while we foot the bill via our tax-dollars.

Just adding two unqualified, unsubstantiated words - "contrary to" - to a sentence in their piece, the New York Times sought to sow the seeds of doubt of the eyewitness accounts of the extrajudicial execution of an unarmed Michael Brown. Their ultimate goal is to have the unsuspecting populace (yes, even those of us who are generally skeptical of U.S. media) believe that these eyewitnesses were wrong, and that the unsubstantiated, unnamed mystery witnesses of the execution - who are clearly defending Darren Wilson so he can come back and murder more Black people - have some information we can't see at the moment that trumps that of those three initial and damning eyewitness accounts by Dorian Johnson and the two women.

Who better to report this and to take apart the New York Times attempt to help Ferguson P.D. than the author of "A Case of Deadly Force"?

Thank you so much, Lawrence O'Donnell!

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