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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 01:01 PM Aug 2014

Elementary teacher suspended for asking white student ‘cops’ to shoot black ‘Michael Browns’

A sixth-grade teacher at Brantley Elementary in Selma, Alabama has been placed on administrative leave after a parent reported that students were asked to research and reenact the Michael Brown shooting in class, The Selma Times-Journal reports.

The administration became aware of the assignment after Jessica Lynn Baughn posted about it on Facebook. “His teacher made them reenact the two current shooting of the young black males,” she wrote. “The white students had to play the police officer. She even has them get on the internet and research how many times the young man was shot where he was shot at.”

“That is absurd to me then you turn around and make them reenact every bit of it including the shooting,” she continued. “Then sit in class and tells them our black children can not walk in their own neighborhood without white people shooting them and she hated to sound racist but whatever.”

Baughn then accused the teacher of being racist, and of “teaching these children to hate one another when we’re supposed to be teaching them to love one another.”

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http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/08/21/elementary-teacher-suspended-for-asking-white-student-cops-to-shoot-black-michael-browns/

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Elementary teacher suspended for asking white student ‘cops’ to shoot black ‘Michael Browns’ (Original Post) DonViejo Aug 2014 OP
How about just firing the Faux pas Aug 2014 #1
the teachers contract probably has a protocol to follow to fire somebody Travis_0004 Aug 2014 #5
At the risk of igniting a firestorm, I find this article to be shoddy journalism, reminiscent of VanGoghRocks Aug 2014 #7
How about trusting the Selma newspaper's report? dixiegrrrrl Aug 2014 #8
Thank you for responding. This story is much better written but still missing some crucial VanGoghRocks Aug 2014 #9
I can give you my perspective of living in Alabama.... dixiegrrrrl Aug 2014 #10
Thank you doubly now for taking the time to respond. I have a couple relatives VanGoghRocks Aug 2014 #12
My first thought was Phentex Aug 2014 #11
Yeah, I immediately went to "blue eye/brown eye" too. Especially given the reaction Recursion Aug 2014 #18
that's true about most stories about schools Enrique Aug 2014 #19
Elementary kids? get the red out Aug 2014 #2
in selma? leftyohiolib Aug 2014 #3
Probably training future St. Louis county law enforcement officers. n/t Horse with no Name Aug 2014 #6
Oh fun! Racist murder roleplay in Selma, Alabama Horse with no Name Aug 2014 #4
Huh? The parent is mad because it's informing kids about the dangers black teens face from police Recursion Aug 2014 #16
This teacher is honestly, at best, a clueless moron. AverageJoe90 Aug 2014 #13
Unless I'm reading this completely wrong (and I am jetlagged) the racists are the parents and admins Recursion Aug 2014 #17
Well, you may be correct on this, I suppose. AverageJoe90 Aug 2014 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author Courtesy Flush Aug 2014 #14
Huh. I read that and assumed it was like the "brown eyes/blue eyes" thing back in the 60s Recursion Aug 2014 #15
 

Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
5. the teachers contract probably has a protocol to follow to fire somebody
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 01:12 PM
Aug 2014

They may be fired but the process takes time.

 

VanGoghRocks

(621 posts)
7. At the risk of igniting a firestorm, I find this article to be shoddy journalism, reminiscent of
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 01:28 PM
Aug 2014

the worst days of "yellow" or "red scare" journalism. The teacher in question is not named, nor given any chance to respond to the charges. I don't mean to turn this teacher into a victim\martyr, but apparently one of her students asked her about Michael Brown during a unit on Current Events. What would or should the School District have her say in response to the question? Are we just supposed to trust Raw Story's version of events, even though it is incomplete at best?

Similar outrage greeted Jane Elliott back in the 60s for her 'blue eyed\brown eyed' lesson, some for her daring to use the same age cohort as this teacher, others for her having the temerity to discuss the issue of racial discrimination at all. Although Elliott was not fired or suspended, she and her own children were the victims of verbal abuse and (IIRC) even physical assaults in the days and weeks that followed:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Elliott

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
8. How about trusting the Selma newspaper's report?
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 02:57 PM
Aug 2014
UPDATED: Teacher suspended after lesson on shooting

A sixth grade Brantley Elementary teacher was put on paid administrative leave Wednesday after a Facebook post revealed the teacher allegedly instructed the students Tuesday to reenact a Ferguson, Mo. shooting known nationwide.

Jessica Baughn, the mother of Brantley sixth grade student Jimmy Griffin, posted a complaint Tuesday on the Sound Off Selma Facebook page. In the post, Guaghn expressed her shock after learning a teacher had told the class to reenact the shooting in which an unarmed Mike Brown was shot by police Aug. 9 in Ferguson, Mo.

Students were reportedly asked to research the shooting online, finding out such details as to how many times Brown was shot and where.http://www.selmatimesjournal.com/2014/08/20/brantley-teacher-suspended-after-allegedly-instructing-students-to-reenact-shooting/

The irony, of course, is that Selma off all places is where this happened.
 

VanGoghRocks

(621 posts)
9. Thank you for responding. This story is much better written but still missing some crucial
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 03:24 PM
Aug 2014

details, imo, like the teacher's response. I in no way condone what took place in Ferguson, nor in the escape from justice afforded thus far to the killer Wilson. It's a sticky wicket and I really don't know what teachers of elementary-school kids should be saying to students who ask about the incident. I just know that children have a natural curiosity and very little escapes their attention, whether we wish it or no.

I'm not going to lapse into vapid 'liberal-ese' about a 'teachable moment'. But I think our children deserve a frank and age-appropriate discussion of these events if we're ever going to heal from them.

It sounds as though the school district, in placing the teacher on paid administrative leave, is doing its best to preserve the teacher's due process rights while responding to the parents' concern. (I never thought I'd be defending a big school bureacuracy, so there you have it.

Just out of curiosity, what do you think elementary-age children should be told about this (if anything)? I have ZERO experience teaching that age cohort, so I think I should probably defer to those with more expertise in the field. I'm unsure if 'academic freedom' has much standing in public-school instruction, but I'd be curious to hear what the experts have to say on that also.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
10. I can give you my perspective of living in Alabama....
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 05:04 PM
Aug 2014

Selma has a pop. of 20, 000, give or take a couple hundred.
85% of that population is black.
Brantley is one of 7 public elementary schools, with an enrollment of 269.
That means from 1st to 6th grade.
I know there are two 6th grade teaching staff for the Brantley school.
I know one of them has to be the teacher in question.

One can safely assume that the 6th grade class is less than 40 students.( I saw the figure of 38 in one of reports I looked up).
It is a good bet that the demographics of the 6th grade mirror the demographics of the area.
Esp. when you add the fact there is a private elementary school in Selma, with a total of 23 students, who are white.
Private schools are set up and supported by parents who want a segregated education for their kids. Most of them have a Christian focus also. Sigh.

There is no way to form a sensible opinion of what the teacher did unless one IS familiar with the history and demographics of that area,
and familiar with the school system of towns and cities in Ala.
context is key to understanding the big picture.

If I were a parent of that class, I would be getting information from the school about the teacher's intent in her assignment, and from my kids in how they felt about it.

 

VanGoghRocks

(621 posts)
12. Thank you doubly now for taking the time to respond. I have a couple relatives
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 06:33 PM
Aug 2014

who live in Auburn and I visited them once there quite some time ago. Still remember stopping in at a waffle house on the way there from Atlanta for some breakfast and the waitress asking me if I wanted some 'greee-yits' with my waffles. I didn't know WTF she was asking me but, fortunately, my Aunt (transplanted Yankee) was with me and was able to translate There's some interesting history in the immediate vicinity, like Plains, GA (home of President Carter) and Andersonville (site of the main Confederate prison camp).

But i was only there for about a week, so I really appreciate your local insights.

Phentex

(16,334 posts)
11. My first thought was
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 05:19 PM
Aug 2014

Selma??!!! Like you said, of all places.

Still, I don't think this was the way to handle a discussion of the Ferguson events. Does she plan on "re-enacting" the beheading of the journalist, too?

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
18. Yeah, I immediately went to "blue eye/brown eye" too. Especially given the reaction
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 06:49 PM
Aug 2014

The parents and admin were angry because it was getting kids to think about racism.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
19. that's true about most stories about schools
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 06:51 PM
Aug 2014

this story follows a solid pattern: a parent complains to local news about something a teacher did, usually a disciplinary action, and the story goes national. Often the school has a policy of not commenting, so you only get one side.

get the red out

(13,462 posts)
2. Elementary kids?
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 01:06 PM
Aug 2014

One would think they would do an exercise in cooperation with kids that young. This is completely insensitive and most likely racist.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
16. Huh? The parent is mad because it's informing kids about the dangers black teens face from police
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 06:44 PM
Aug 2014

There's racism here, but I'm not sure it's from the teacher.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
17. Unless I'm reading this completely wrong (and I am jetlagged) the racists are the parents and admins
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 06:47 PM
Aug 2014

Who don't like kids being told about how cops treat white and black people differently. Look at what the people complaining are actually saying, eg, “Then sit in class and tells them our black children can not walk in their own neighborhood without white people shooting".

The problem from the school's perspective is that it's getting kids to recognize racism.

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
15. Huh. I read that and assumed it was like the "brown eyes/blue eyes" thing back in the 60s
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 06:43 PM
Aug 2014

But I guess there are right and wrong ways to do that.

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