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being reported now on CNN by Don Lemon. Shooter had a swollen face, that's the extent of his injuries.
Referring to Darren Wilson.
Video at link, for some reason I can't embed it
http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/us/2014/08/21/nr-lemon-grace-officers-broken-eye-socket-claim-false.cnn.html
uponit7771
(90,364 posts)... messed up if he punched the guy hard enough to break his eye socket...
BaggersRDumb
(186 posts)teaparty cops say is true, nothing.
Nothing the county prosecutor says will be true, etc.
merrily
(45,251 posts)have been very messed up before I got to the station house.
No matter how hard I had to hit myself.
unblock
(52,317 posts)JaydenD
(294 posts)or he did it himself (which probably can be determined by an expect, angles and stuff)
Some may think guffaw at this 'conspiracy theory', but I guffaw back - what makes anyone think these people have any honesty or integrity after all we have heard?
tblue37
(65,488 posts)he jumped out to attack Michael Brown.
The autopsies--2 so far, a third to come--found no sign of swelling, abrasion, blood, or skin cells on Brown's hands. It seems pretty evident that Brown did not hit Wilson.
BaggersRDumb
(186 posts)there would be ZERO discussion about all these types of things, think about how differently that would go down in the media and with the idiot moron bagger assholes.
YarnAddict
(1,850 posts)Same situation, very little media attention.
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/58313255-78/burbank-police-taylor-officer.html.csp
Travis_0004
(5,417 posts)People are letting the investigation run its course before passing judgement.
YarnAddict
(1,850 posts)BronxBoy
(2,286 posts)That recorded the whole event. Big difference from this case
LiberalArkie
(15,728 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)Bobbie Jo
(14,341 posts)pissed him off even more.
ReRe
(10,597 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)or he had his buddies rough him up...
aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)Nancy Grace was also on CNN at the same time, nose flaps flaring. Thought she was going to levitate and nose flap around the room via her nose wings. Of course she sung the praises of prosecutor McCullough because he lost a loved one to violence, like her.
randome
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BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)tblue37
(65,488 posts)nolabear
(41,991 posts)I will never see her without seeing her nose flapping around the room again.
malaise
(269,157 posts)Too good
Killeroctopus
(16 posts)The Washington Post is reporting that a friend of the family sad Wilson thought Brown was on drugs.
WHAT?
WHAT?
He was acting like he was on drugs, which explains why you shot him and he kept charging. Good lord that is beyond fucking bat shit and racist. This police department is fucking CORRUPT AS HELL!!! They are fucking lying. Lying their asses off.
frylock
(34,825 posts)talking to someone at the convenience mart in 2005 who played Little League with Wilson's nephew.
bench scientist
(1,107 posts)toddwv
(2,830 posts)People were watching so he couldn't plant a weapon or sprinkle crack on the man he just shot.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)Same shit, different asshole.
tblue37
(65,488 posts)that Brown was observed "throwing MMA style punches" at Wilson.
frylock
(34,825 posts)yeah, that seems believable.
yardwork
(61,705 posts)Same old thing.
Louisiana1976
(3,962 posts)self-defense.
Killeroctopus
(16 posts)That horrible marijuana got in to his negro blood,and officer Wilson had to shoot him in order to save the hundreds of 14 year old white girls that he was probably going to rape and enslave and sell to Arabs in Syria that belong to Isis, while he bought guns for the Black Panthers so that they could ride along with that angry monkey Eric Holder and that chimp Obama and "liberate" fucking Boulder Colorado by turning it in to gay communist atheist Muslim Caliphate bent on murdering all white people.
world wide wally
(21,754 posts)Killeroctopus
(16 posts)God.
Thank you for turning the entire US in to a potential war zone when you save your murderous officer Ferguson police department.
world wide wally
(21,754 posts)"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance baffle them with bullshit"
Killeroctopus
(16 posts)I was worried there for a bit that this was going to end up with those racists gleefully rejoicing as officer fucknut was actually telling the truth and the Ferguson PD was just filled with people who were exposed to massive amounts of lead as children.
spinbaby
(15,090 posts)Welcome to the zoo.
frylock
(34,825 posts)I like him already.
Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)Do put the sarcasm thingie on your posts until we get to know you better.
Some people might be quick to judge and think you're being serious.
And welcome to DU!
csziggy
(34,137 posts)And since someone suggested the sarcasm thingie - you can either find it by clicking the {...} button at the end of the first smilies window or type the word sarcasm and put a : on either side of it.
It adds a certain flair to brilliant posts such as yours! And I don't mean by that.
yardwork
(61,705 posts)You might could work in something aBout FEMA camps too!
Great rant. Welcome to DU.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)heaven05
(18,124 posts)if some of those fux news junkies believed something like this. good one.
frylock
(34,825 posts)alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Are they ever embarrassed, one wonders?
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)BuelahWitch
(9,083 posts)HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)I guess the fractured eye socket fairy tale didn't test well in the focus group. This is why they haven't released their official report. Once they do, its a story they're married to.
alsame
(7,784 posts)walking around the body hit the Internet they had to change their story because it was obvious he wasn't badly hurt.
Iggo
(47,565 posts)I believe he's gonna hafta pull a Tiger Woods for a month.
merrily
(45,251 posts)AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)Depends on the xray, power of the machine etc. Maybe a ct. The definitive imaging is an mri. And that should only be done about now.
An orbital blowout fracture is kinda unique. It is equally claimed by evolution supporters and creationists as proof of their side. But put that to a side right now. A blowout fracture happens when there is a direct blow on an eye, and a finger poke can do it. The eye is "designed" to have the floor give way so the eyeball can quish - all technical terms- without the eyeball exploding and losing the eye. It is darn easy to diagnose, one eye sits a third of an inch below the other eye, assuming a complete fracture .
Oh, a blowout fracture can be comparatively pain free.
The repair surgery is kinda cool. They just slide a bit of plastic under the eyeball. Let me see if I can find one on youtube.
I found one: NOT FOR THE SQUIMISH!!!! EYE GORE!#!
DO NOT LOOK AT THIS IF YOUR STOMACH IS WEAK!!!!
SERIOUSLY, THIS IS GROSS AND IF AN ADMIN OR ANYONE ELSE WANTS A DELETE, JUST ASK.
BUT IT IS COOL.
Repair of Orbital Floor Fracture:
merrily
(45,251 posts)Whatever diagnostic tool they use, my point was that a claim of a bone fracture can be proven or disproven. And maybe that is why the claim has disappeared, if the officer ever made it. Maybe it was only made up by the likes of Fox. Sadly, though, many people believe what they hear.
Despite video, they are claiming Powell was trying to kill a cop when killed.
So sickening.
tblue37
(65,488 posts)tweaking the story for the next balloon they send up.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)This is SOP. Put the bullshit out there first, before the actual reports are released. The news runs with it, the internets run with it, the lie gets stenographed everywhere. Then when the report actually gets released and it doesn't contain the disinformation it doesn't matter. The meme that Brown, shot dead in a fusillade of bullets at a distance, was the aggressor, has already gone viral.
tridim
(45,358 posts)Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)The B girl.
Boom Sound 416
(4,185 posts)Bonx
(2,075 posts)alsame
(7,784 posts)Bonx
(2,075 posts)world wide wally
(21,754 posts)They would have surely hung themselves with their fabricated stories if they didn't know what was out there.
Maybe there's still a few more... hopefully.
CakeGrrl
(10,611 posts)The killer apologists can keep spinning. I'm betting the DOJ has more than what keeps getting looped on the usual outlets.
csziggy
(34,137 posts)But Gomer said it better:
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)For the humor impaired.
aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)so we can go back in time to video tape the incident before we take the word of six percipient witnesses and accept the forensic evidence.
Kali
(55,019 posts)or is the story of the gun going off in the car out of circulation now?
LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)then nothing will happen.
I'm sorry, but you can't hit a cop in the face. Still waiting for all the info to be released.
Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)An unarmed surrendering kid. Call for back up, use a taser if needed. Point your gun on him till back up arrives. So many other options when your "suspect" is surrendering. The cop himself wasn't a small man. He has to be at least 6 feet tall and 200 pounds.
LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)It's hard for me to imagine a scenario where a huge man charges a police officer, beats him up, then halfway through decides to sprint away.
I'm just glad there are apparently witnesses. If the cop is lying about injuries, then those lies will be found out. Brown's autopsy will either corroborate the fight story, or it won't. There's no way Brown beat the officer swollen without having some marks on his hand.
The truth will come out.
Iggo
(47,565 posts)Must be the other guy.
BuelahWitch
(9,083 posts)Wilson was the aggressor. He backed up the truck, almost hit the two young guys and then grabbed Mike through his open vehicle window.
Stop the BS about Mike charging the police, it didn't happen!
aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)The Officer was justified in firing at an unarmed fleeing man because at any time, even from 35 feet away, he could have turned and extended his fist 35 feet and deliver another punch.
uponit7771
(90,364 posts)LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)It's the way I roll.
BklnDem75
(2,918 posts)It can't be both.
enki23
(7,790 posts)The only way the cop could possibly be "innocent" is if Michael Brown was guilty. We know the cop shot the kid multiple times and killed him. That isn't in question. He is arguing self defense based on the alleged "guilt" of the deceased. I'm among those presuming innocence of the only alleged crime about which there is any question at all. That means I have (with good reason) to assume the cop is fucking guilty (as we know *for certain* he is) and that his actions were not justified by the alleged guilt in question until and unless Michael Brown is proven guilty.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)Absolutely no sign on Brown's hands that he made contact with Wilson.
Nice try, though.
SylviaD
(721 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)underpants
(182,879 posts)But I am glad CNN is making it public
spanone
(135,874 posts)Gothmog
(145,557 posts)These idiots really believe the eye socket fracture claim
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)can lay down a straight line shooting pattern on a charging black teenager who did not have his hands up. Seriously the crap they will believe.
Killeroctopus
(16 posts)Maybe they confirmed to Lawrence that the sources were lying about the dozens of witnesses that corroborated the officer's story.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)DOJ very well could have put pressure on police chief to stop spreading false stories. First they withdrew the "dozens of witnesses backing up officer's story" lie, and now the eyesocket fracture lie.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)BronxBoy
(2,286 posts)Made him all fucking "eye of the tiger" after getting his eyeball busted
What's good for the goose......
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)I think it might go something like this, "Man, I shot a kid, he's history. Can you help me out? This thing has got to appear to be justified. Just hit me in the left side of my facereal hard."
Ferguson police are not trustworthy.
aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)and remembered the scene where Scorpio paid a guy to bust up his face and blame it on Harry.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Anansi1171
(793 posts)aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)What? Nancy Grace wants to wait until all the evidence is in before sending the perp to the electric chair? What's this world coming to? Miss "Hang 'Em High" doesn't want someone's head on a platter asap? She's become mellow in her old age, I guess.
frylock
(34,825 posts)L0oniX
(31,493 posts)Cha
(297,655 posts)smakson
(5 posts)Witness accounts before the autopsy was released are way more reliable than anything that comes out now.
The autopsy matches their accounts, not vice versa.
The ones I've seen are 100% consistent with the autopsy.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Yeah I knew it was total bullshit, why would he wait around for hours with a broken eye socket? He wouldn't - EMS would have showed up and rendered aid and it would be on that video footage. EMS didn't show up for Brown that is certain.
Nobody is that tough and EMS not showing up and treating him proved him wrong on camera. Fleeing the scene just kinda cemented it.
Doesn't look good to an impartial jury.