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http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/lake/os-leesburg-police-officer-rape-trial-verdict-20140822,0,1385385.storyPeople in the courtroom broke into tears when the jury of four women and two men found Henri Bart Larue, 27, not guilty of armed sexual battery by a law-enforcement officer a crime that could have landed him in prison for life.
The single mother and her supporters stormed out of the courtroom, appalled that Larue was going free.
"I am flabbergasted," said the woman's mother, who testified this week. "All that evidence. All that effort. And they came up with not guilty? My poor daughter. It's all being relived all over again."
Simply disgusting, is it any wonder why so many people are terrified by cops?
Iggo
(47,552 posts)They're the best!
gaspee
(3,231 posts)sexual assault? It's not like they're going to be found guilty if they're not caught in the act or a minority or poor.
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,611 posts)theHandpuppet
(19,964 posts)Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)alp227
(32,020 posts)PFunk
(876 posts)with many not thinking of them as a occupying force for the 1 percent. Something has to change. Any chance the victim will go the civil suit route?
BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)Sadly, the benefit of the doubt always goes to the cops.
Lars39
(26,109 posts)tblue37
(65,340 posts)ecstatic
(32,701 posts)BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)I've never served on a jury where a cop was the defendant, so I never considered that angle.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)It's reprehensible that a cop gets away with this shit, but it's not just cops....only a very tiny percentage of those accused of sexual violence against women get charged guilty. (Of the already tiny percentage that even makes it to court.)
The deck is stacked against you if you're not a white male. And sex against your will is to be expected if you're female.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Because that definitely does happen, but it's not trendy. All the nameless ones on the jury and in the voting pool are the REAL problem there.
Only voters are on the juries. It's scary to think about what else they will approve when voting.
littlemissmartypants
(22,656 posts)BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)The jury is a group of your peers....kind of. I have heard that during jury selection, attorneys prefer to eliminate people prone to critical thinking.
They want people who have fully absorbed the zeitgeist, no questions asked. When that zeitgeist is the attitude of red-'Murika, you've got a dysfunctional threat on your hands, if you're the one looking for justice.
littlemissmartypants
(22,656 posts)Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)But more than likely he won't ever understand. Once a rapist always a rapist, they never learn.
KitSileya
(4,035 posts)were by experiencing rape in his own family, he would be the victim himself. Daughters (and any other female relatives) of rapists are persons, not props to be used to teach a perpetrator a lesson.
As the quote goes, 'Every woman is somebody's daughter, mother, sister, wife' Because only the first 4 words are necessary.
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)As a victim of repeated sexual assault I over-react a bit when it comes to pro-rape comments by hateful males. He probably himself was a victim of sexual violence. I would not hope such assault on any being. I should not have hung that on her. Thanks for the heads up.
blackspade
(10,056 posts)Another ganger in blue walks.
JJChambers
(1,115 posts)Hugabear
(10,340 posts)I'm sure it just magically appeared there
JJChambers
(1,115 posts)Where was the DNA found? What was the source of the DNA? Sperm? Skin cells? Blood?
LisaL
(44,973 posts)Don't you think it would be a bizarre statement to make for someone falsely accused.
If I were falsely accused of something, I certainly wouldn't be telling my accuser to "move on."
etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)niyad
(113,293 posts)The woman said Larue, who had worked at the Leesburg Police Department since March 2012, made an unexpected U-turn while taking her to the Lake County Jail. She said he drove to a secluded alley behind a strip shopping center on U.S. Highway 441 and forced her to perform a sex act. He was arrested in January 2013 after a Florida Department of Law Enforcement investigation and was fired in March 2013.
JJChambers
(1,115 posts)He was found NOT guilty by a jury. Yet no one considers that a possibility?
niyad
(113,293 posts)considering how many rapists lie, no, I don't.
JJChambers
(1,115 posts)niyad
(113,293 posts)keep trying. someone might actually think you are correct.
JJChambers
(1,115 posts)I'm questioning the folks who don't even entertain the possibility that he COULD be not guilty. I certainly think he COULD be guilty, but I'm reasonable.
Hugabear
(10,340 posts)n/t
niyad
(113,293 posts)oh yeah, my first thought was that he was clearly a saint, not guilty.
wow. . .just. . . wow.
mythology
(9,527 posts)But as the article said, he was fired, which isn't overly easy to do and he told her to get over it. If either of those weren't true, I'd be more likely to give him the benefit of the doubt. Even if he didn't say get over it as a method of dismissing her as his victim, he did tell her that to dismiss her as a victim in general. I am perfectly happy to not have a person like that being a cop.
Granted the article doesn't give a lot of detail on the actual defense and prosecution, so I have no idea what the 16 minute time stamp error is about for example.
DFW
(54,370 posts)But then someone might do what I was thinking, and then I'd be in hot water for saying it.
Suffice it to say that when a perp tells his victim to "move on" after beating the rap, it's pretty obvious what he meant.
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)I'm not exactly a believer in "rape culture" well, not in a literal sense, anyway), TBH, but this should have any decent person up in arms. Enough is enough. It's long past time to hold police departments accountable for their problems.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)... are above the law. A badge absolves all wrongs.
Yay cops, you're da bestest.
littlemissmartypants
(22,656 posts)They use it on us and it's being used on society at large.
Educate yourself and your loved ones. Sociopaths won't change. Be informed and involved.
Love, Peace and Shelter.
Lmsp 🙌
iandhr
(6,852 posts)davidn3600
(6,342 posts)It's been challenged....I think in the 1970s it went to the Supreme Court and they said 6 or more jurors is OK. That's where the line was drawn.
Connecticut and Florida are the only 2 states that have less than 12 jurors for criminal trials. Civil trials tend to vary though from state to state. It's not uncommon to have less jurors in those kind of cases.
Florida does have 12-person juries if it is a death penalty case.
iandhr
(6,852 posts)Louisiana1976
(3,962 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)ReRe
(10,597 posts)Question: Can't she sue him in civil court, even though he was acquitted?
Don't tell me this isn't a Police State!
riqster
(13,986 posts)they was not enough evidence, just because there is a trial does not make every accused guilty.
Skittles
(153,160 posts)go on
davidn3600
(6,342 posts)Apparently getting fired is all the proof you need to convict someone. But it wasn't enough proof for this jury to convict (which was made up of 4 women and 2 men, btw).
You have to prove guilt in court. Being fired is not evidence of guilt.
Skittles
(153,160 posts)he was fired because they found it was a pattern in his behavior