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grahamhgreen

(15,741 posts)
Mon Aug 25, 2014, 01:49 AM Aug 2014

Foley murder video 'may have been staged'

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/journalists/bill-gardner/11054488/Foley-murder-video-may-have-been-staged.html

Analysts believe the British jihadi in the video may not have been James Foley's killer, although it is accepted that the journalist was murdered

The video of James Foley’s execution may have been staged, with the actual murder taking place off-camera, it has emerged.

Forensic analysis of the footage of the journalist’s death has suggested that the British jihadist in the film may have been the frontman rather than the killer.
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Foley murder video 'may have been staged' (Original Post) grahamhgreen Aug 2014 OP
The truth is in the blood, rather the lack of it Warpy Aug 2014 #1
So they died from some other cause? BainsBane Aug 2014 #2
He was alive and reading a prepared statement through clenched teeth Warpy Aug 2014 #3
The Nick Berg video was staged, as well. RandiFan1290 Aug 2014 #4
I thought it was "staged" from the beginning CJCRANE Aug 2014 #5
Here is the uncensored video. Skip to 4:15. No beheading. candelista Aug 2014 #6

Warpy

(111,254 posts)
1. The truth is in the blood, rather the lack of it
Mon Aug 25, 2014, 01:59 AM
Aug 2014

It was the same thing as the brutal Daniel Pearl decapitation. They were both done post mortem.

Foley's clothing would have been saturated, as would his face and hair, had one of his carotids been cut while his heart was still beating.

I've seen carotids let go. Even with maximum padding with towels and waterproof pads, there is still spray in the room.

BainsBane

(53,032 posts)
2. So they died from some other cause?
Mon Aug 25, 2014, 02:06 AM
Aug 2014

besides beheading? The videos were made to make the deaths look more dramatic?

I didn't watch the video, and I won't. But did Foley look alive at the beginning of it?

Warpy

(111,254 posts)
3. He was alive and reading a prepared statement through clenched teeth
Mon Aug 25, 2014, 02:11 AM
Aug 2014

He didn't look well, either, like he was ill and near death from something like dysentery.

My best guess says they were garroted before the beheading. They died hard in any case but the beheading was post mortem.

RandiFan1290

(6,229 posts)
4. The Nick Berg video was staged, as well.
Mon Aug 25, 2014, 05:54 AM
Aug 2014

The video edit and time lapse is very obvious since they still have the time stamp visible.

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
5. I thought it was "staged" from the beginning
Mon Aug 25, 2014, 08:33 AM
Aug 2014

in the sense that it was so carefully composed.

We have the two main figures against a stark background, the prisoner in a Gitmo orange jumpsuit and the guard dressed like an executioner in a horror movie (and also reminiscent of the famous Abu Ghraib photo of a detainee dressed in black robes).

It was like deja vu from a surreal nightmare sequence in a Cronenberg film, all in color-saturated, high contrast, high definition.

Another thing I noticed, just looking at the stills from this and other videos, is that the clothes are always immaculate: they look clean, new and unused. Also, the focus is always sharp and the images well-framed.

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