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closeupready

(29,503 posts)
Mon Aug 25, 2014, 01:18 PM Aug 2014

Help me here - why is bribery bad?

From Merriam-Websters:

>>1bribe
noun \ˈbrīb\

: something valuable (such as money) that is given in order to get someone to do something
: money or favor given or promised in order to influence the judgment or conduct of a person in a position of trust <<

While the Merriam Webster definition of reality does not equal the legal definition, for purposes of this question, it serves to illustrate how fundamentally corrupt our government has become since the days when the Founding Fathers wrote bribery into the Constitution as a crime so bad, that it was grounds from impeaching the democractically elected President (see Article II, Section IV).

Given that money has been declared equivalent to speech in the US today, then I'm struggling to understand how anyone can claim bribery is bad, since it's basically the same thing as what goes on in our elections today.

Thoughts?

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Help me here - why is bribery bad? (Original Post) closeupready Aug 2014 OP
Today's system has legalized bribery and Skidmore Aug 2014 #1
Completely agree, but what I'm getting at is this: closeupready Aug 2014 #3
It literally guarantees "Them that gots, gets more". cherokeeprogressive Aug 2014 #2
It's noteworthy, don't you think, that the last major bribery prosecution closeupready Aug 2014 #6
Because I can't afford to do it, maybe... Wounded Bear Aug 2014 #4
It's an interesting thing to consider, 'if I were that rich, closeupready Aug 2014 #7
Because the government should treat all equally treestar Aug 2014 #5
Bob McDonnell is that you? FSogol Aug 2014 #8
LOL closeupready Aug 2014 #9
How many billions do you have to play with? Warpy Aug 2014 #10

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
1. Today's system has legalized bribery and
Mon Aug 25, 2014, 01:24 PM
Aug 2014

is an abomination. Because something is doesn't mean it should exist.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
3. Completely agree, but what I'm getting at is this:
Mon Aug 25, 2014, 01:34 PM
Aug 2014

That it seems like talk about bribery is tautological, or circular - 'why is bribery bad? because bribery is bad. Why? Because.'

I suppose I've always been an idealistic one who seems to think that if people would just think a little, they'd throw all these bums (who aid and abed the legalization of bribery) out to the gutter on their butts. Of course, that never happens.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
6. It's noteworthy, don't you think, that the last major bribery prosecution
Mon Aug 25, 2014, 01:35 PM
Aug 2014

was Abscam, in the early 80's. Even though anecdotally, I think most of us here would agree that bribery is so much worse today than it was then.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
7. It's an interesting thing to consider, 'if I were that rich,
Mon Aug 25, 2014, 01:37 PM
Aug 2014

would I do this, too, knowing that it's legal but unethical?' I'd like to be in a position of actually having that discussion with myself, lol.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
5. Because the government should treat all equally
Mon Aug 25, 2014, 01:35 PM
Aug 2014

The rich should not get any advantage there. They have enough already.

Warpy

(111,255 posts)
10. How many billions do you have to play with?
Mon Aug 25, 2014, 02:05 PM
Aug 2014

Back when Stupid was in office, the price tag was a million dollars for unrestricted access to a Republican congressman. They announced that fact and nobody seemed to give a shit.

When you don't have a million dollars to buy unlimited access, that's when you begin to see a bit of a problem. Your Congressman has no time to devote to the people who put him into office with all the lobbyists out there paying to play. He hears nothing but what rich men want, the rich men who can afford the access.

And you, my poor befuddled citizen, can go piss up a rope. You have no representation in government because you can't afford to buy any.

That is what is wrong with bribery.

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