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Do You Think George Zimmerman Will Be Charged? (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2012 OP
No. The timing of the next announcement suggest to me that Corey wants minimal press coverage badtoworse Apr 2012 #1
That's Profoundly Disappointing DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2012 #3
And they are preparing for trouble Generic Other Apr 2012 #8
That would be true no matter which way it goes. It's gonna piss-off SOMEONE. n/t Ian David Apr 2012 #10
Do you really expect riots if they charge Zimmerman? If they don't, on the other hand... Johnny Rico Apr 2012 #26
I don't know what the Neo-Nazis patrolling Sanford will do. Ian David Apr 2012 #28
Reports of neo-Nazis patrolling the streets of Sanford are greatly exaggerated slackmaster Apr 2012 #29
Thanks for the heads-up on that. n/t Ian David Apr 2012 #32
As another poster just pointed out...*what* Neo-Nazis? Johnny Rico Apr 2012 #31
Yes, but I don't know what the charge will be and do they even know where he is? WI_DEM Apr 2012 #2
The Police Are Good At Finding People DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2012 #5
I certainly hope so, but Laurian Apr 2012 #4
I think he needs to be MintyFresh Apr 2012 #6
Yes. treestar Apr 2012 #7
He's getting flakier. My guess is Fox will bus-toss him pretty soon. Bruce Wayne Apr 2012 #9
I think he is gone. I dont think you will see him again for a long time. rhett o rick Apr 2012 #14
I doubt he's left the state, despite the "rumors". He's probably hanging with gkhouston Apr 2012 #16
So young, and yet so cynical. Bruce Wayne Apr 2012 #35
Me young??? LOLz But I was wrong. He has been arrested. My prognostication record is intact. nm rhett o rick Apr 2012 #37
Yes Ganja Ninja Apr 2012 #11
Has the 911 "Help!" been established yet? Bruce Wayne Apr 2012 #36
This morning snews sez they cant even locate him now! lunasun Apr 2012 #12
My prognostication record is somewhat spotty Cirque du So-What Apr 2012 #13
My track record is worse, but that doesnt slow me down. I predict he skips town. nm rhett o rick Apr 2012 #15
Yes, I predict that as well Cirque du So-What Apr 2012 #19
No. Nothing left but Riot control, & PR spin Blaze Diem Apr 2012 #17
It's possible that MintyFresh Apr 2012 #18
I'll go out on a limb: Yes, absolutely- with manslaughter cali Apr 2012 #20
Yes mactime Apr 2012 #21
No because they could not charge HIM now without charging his father, KurtNYC Apr 2012 #22
Another coward on the run with a gun. Lint Head Apr 2012 #23
I don't have enough information or a good enough knowledge of the law to make a prediction slackmaster Apr 2012 #24
Not enough information to say. Mariana Apr 2012 #25
I don't know Marrah_G Apr 2012 #27
If I had to guess, I'd say probably not. But I wouldn't be surprised if he was either n/t RZM Apr 2012 #30
The timing leads me to think no Broderick Apr 2012 #33
I don't think a sleazy Friday news dump is going to make this go away at all. Whisp Apr 2012 #34
 

badtoworse

(5,957 posts)
1. No. The timing of the next announcement suggest to me that Corey wants minimal press coverage
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 09:20 AM
Apr 2012

You announce on Friday afternoon when you want a low profile.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,711 posts)
3. That's Profoundly Disappointing
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 09:22 AM
Apr 2012

I don't see how you can shoot an unarmed man, except in the very narrowest of circumstances, and get away with it.

This is such a strange case.

Ian David

(69,059 posts)
28. I don't know what the Neo-Nazis patrolling Sanford will do.
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 10:49 AM
Apr 2012

There are a lot of angry, armed white people running around down there who think Sanford is a hero.

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
29. Reports of neo-Nazis patrolling the streets of Sanford are greatly exaggerated
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 10:55 AM
Apr 2012

The leader of a small neo-Nazi group in Michigan posted on his Web site that his people INTENDED to do that, but they haven't materialized.

The story was posted on an obscure news site in Florida with a headline stating that the people were patrolling Sanford (in the present tense) but there haven't been any videos, photos, or reports from more credible sources that it is actually happening.

Here's the original piece, which was updated a few days ago, and no longer claims that patrols are actually happening.

http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2012/04/heavily_armed_neo-nazis_patrol.php

The original story was quickly picked up by Huffington Post and others, who passed it on as fact without doing any real digging to verify it. It's just another Internet BS story that got out of control.

WI_DEM

(33,497 posts)
2. Yes, but I don't know what the charge will be and do they even know where he is?
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 09:22 AM
Apr 2012

I assume they must have an idea since he called them of at least an approximate place he is at.

Laurian

(2,593 posts)
4. I certainly hope so, but
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 09:22 AM
Apr 2012

who knows.....

With the way things have gone so far with this case, nothing would surprise me but I will be angry and disappointed if no charges are filed.

Bruce Wayne

(692 posts)
9. He's getting flakier. My guess is Fox will bus-toss him pretty soon.
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 09:28 AM
Apr 2012

After letting his lawyers quit on him (expect the bill in the mail, Miami Earp) so that he could confab with fucking Sean Hannity, my take on the guy is that he's a flake with Second Amendment "issues" and will be unintentionally self-destructive throughout his 15 minutes. This means he's not a player. Florida prosecutors will have nobody pissed at them if they take Zimmerman to the mat.

On the other hand, they'll win points with the black community and might even give a little protection to the "stand your ground" laws if they do toss him away for 20 years. He'll get another set of lawyers, to be sure--Daddy'll see to it and the RW noise machine will see to it. But I see manslaughter in the first and 20 years of kitchen duty in this boy's future. And good riddance, even if it is more because it's politically expedient this time to do the right thing.

Hope this didn't come off as too cynical.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
14. I think he is gone. I dont think you will see him again for a long time.
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 09:41 AM
Apr 2012

There are a lot of people that dont want him to be charged incl the NRA. A trial would be very embarrassing to those pushing SYG laws.

gkhouston

(21,642 posts)
16. I doubt he's left the state, despite the "rumors". He's probably hanging with
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 09:45 AM
Apr 2012

some crony of his dad's. And yes, I expect he'll be charged.

Bruce Wayne

(692 posts)
35. So young, and yet so cynical.
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 06:21 PM
Apr 2012

I think we'll see Zimbo in front of a judge in a day or two. Murder two is what the prosecutor wants.

And I think your analysis is backwards. Convicting Zimmerman will, ironically, protect the SYG law, by making clear that this particular case is not a SYG one.

Ganja Ninja

(15,953 posts)
11. Yes
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 09:37 AM
Apr 2012

I think his aggressive behavior plus his failure to heed police warnings to back off will be used to show his mindset that night. But the real evidence that will sink him will be the 911 tape of Trayvon screaming for help repeatedly for more than 1/2 a minute before the shots were fired.

How can you claim you feared for your life when your victim is screaming "HELP ME!" over and over?

Bruce Wayne

(692 posts)
36. Has the 911 "Help!" been established yet?
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 06:25 PM
Apr 2012

If it's confirmed Trayvon's voice, it'll be like having the tragedy all over again. Had it really been Zimmerman's, I could at least see this murder as the act of a lunatic. Damn. How do you shoot a guy screaming "help"?

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
12. This morning snews sez they cant even locate him now!
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 09:38 AM
Apr 2012

So how can he be charged ?? by the time they locate him Florida law will have made a trial unlawful probably...

His ex lawyers say he is still in the country but most likely not in FL but they could just be talkin out their ass too who knows
But since you asked for opinion I say no
Disgruntled community left in anger and unanswered ?s will do the white repug party some good down there and possibly nation wide

Cirque du So-What

(25,965 posts)
13. My prognostication record is somewhat spotty
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 09:39 AM
Apr 2012

I have a record that could earn me the nickname 'Nostradumbass.'

Despite that, I sometimes can't help tossing out a prediction here & there. My prediction: Zimmerman will be charged, but only because of all the attention that has been focused on this case - especially that from the federal government.

Cirque du So-What

(25,965 posts)
19. Yes, I predict that as well
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 09:52 AM
Apr 2012

In fact, he may have already flown the coop. Regardless, the wheels of justice would continue to turn, even in his absence. Going by what we've seen from those Zimmerman and those assisting him, however, they'll make colossal mistakes at every turn and betray his location.

 

Blaze Diem

(3,384 posts)
17. No. Nothing left but Riot control, & PR spin
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 09:49 AM
Apr 2012

Perhaps an attempt to appease the public ire, by assuring that a task force will be assembled to look into re-writing Stand your Ground & perhaps investigate the Sanford Police Force. However the task force & their decision will all develop at their own pace & the public will be notified of their findings.

Nothing will come of young Trayvon's unjust murder.

As for George Zimmerman, he has been given time before Corey's public announcement to re-locate.

 

MintyFresh

(29 posts)
18. It's possible that
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 09:49 AM
Apr 2012

his friend from faux newz helped him get away. Also wanted to add if they don't charge him then it will send a message to all people like minded that they can just shoot anyone & use the SYG to get off. Bad message.

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
22. No because they could not charge HIM now without charging his father,
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 10:07 AM
Apr 2012

the Sanford Chief of Police and everyone who tried to cover this up.

No GZ crime = no cover up. I don't see how they charge GZ without charging others or at least doing some BS "on-going investigation" of the cover up.

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
24. I don't have enough information or a good enough knowledge of the law to make a prediction
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 10:31 AM
Apr 2012

I hope the prosecutor has both, and makes the correct decision based on the facts and the law.

Mariana

(14,860 posts)
25. Not enough information to say.
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 10:40 AM
Apr 2012

I think it all depends on the autopsy report and the records of Zimmerman's injuries, if any. We don't have access to that stuff.

Broderick

(4,578 posts)
33. The timing leads me to think no
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 11:05 AM
Apr 2012

unfortunately. Dump the news of no charges going into a weekend where coverage is less. Attention spans are short in the media generally and bad news politically is usually dumped on Fridays. Although, personally, I think they plan to mitigate the coverage by a weekend dump not understanding the longstanding power of the story.

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
34. I don't think a sleazy Friday news dump is going to make this go away at all.
Wed Apr 11, 2012, 11:19 AM
Apr 2012

It would be foolish to even attempt such a tactic - you think the Rev is going to let this just go away because of a weekend between his shows? No way.

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