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Sat Aug 30, 2014, 04:31 PM

Really??? 300 Americans fighting alongside ISIS.

I am not clear on how the Gov. can be sure of that figure, but...here goes:

The US government is tracking and gathering intelligence on as many as 300 Americans who are fighting side by side with the Islamic State group in Iraq and Syria, according to senior US officials.
Washington is worried that radicalised foreign fighters could become a risk to the US if they return to employ skills learned overseas to carry out attacks, The Washington Times reported, citing the officials. “We know that there are several hundred American passport holders running around with ISIS in Syria or Iraq,” a senior US official said. “It’s hard to tell whether or not they’re in Syria or moved to Iraq.”
Past reports have put the possible number of Americans who have flocked to the extremist group at around 100. IS, a former Al-Qaeda affiliate, gained strength fighting Bashar Assad’s forces in the Syrian civil war before turning to cross the border into Iraq, where they have made swift gains in western and northern sections of the volatile country.
The news of as many as 300 Americans fighting with IS comes one day after reports that a 33-year-old American, Douglas McAuthur McCain, was killed over the weekend in Syria while battling alongside Islamic State against members of a separate opposition group. Family members confirmed his passing to NBC News, and senior US officials acknowledged that they were aware of the man’s death.
The US government is doing its best to keep track of the foreign fighters, who have been shifting back and forth between Iraq and Syria, according to a senior US official. Other IS supporters have taken to social media to inspire anxiety among the US government, the report said. In recent weeks, photos were posted on Twitter showing the Islamic State flag unfurled in front of the White House, and, in front of the Old Republic building on Chicago’s Michigan Avenue, a message in Arabic was shown, reading, “We are in your state, we are in your cities, we are in your streets, you are our goals anywhere.”
The Secret Service is investigating the photo near the White House. The FBI and the Department of Homeland Security issued last week a bulletin to local law enforcement agencies to be alert without identify a specific threat, according to the report.
http://www.nation.com.pk/international/30-Aug-2014/300-americans-fighting-alongside-is

( this is all of the short article at the link)

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Reply Really??? 300 Americans fighting alongside ISIS. (Original post)
dixiegrrrrl Aug 2014 OP
Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2014 #1
malaise Aug 2014 #2
2naSalit Aug 2014 #4
Maedhros Aug 2014 #10
2naSalit Aug 2014 #11
Thinkingabout Aug 2014 #3
seveneyes Aug 2014 #5
malaise Aug 2014 #6
3rdwaydem Aug 2014 #7
rollin74 Aug 2014 #15
SidDithers Aug 2014 #8
dixiegrrrrl Aug 2014 #9
niyad Aug 2014 #12
SidDithers Aug 2014 #13
niyad Aug 2014 #14
IDemo Aug 2014 #16
Blue_Tires Aug 2014 #17
dixiegrrrrl Aug 2014 #18
BainsBane Aug 2014 #19
951-Riverside Aug 2014 #20

Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 04:34 PM

1. Quick! Send more money to the NSA and CIA to prevent an invasion of Dubai or Duluth or somewhere.

 

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 04:36 PM

2. So my question is - have mercenaries switched sides? n/t

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Response to malaise (Reply #2)

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 04:54 PM

4. Quite likely and

bound to happen eventually.

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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #4)

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 06:00 PM

10. Blackwater/XE types fight for money.

 

To think that they would have scruples about from where that money comes is naive.

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Response to Maedhros (Reply #10)

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 06:49 PM

11. Precisely

my point. Saw that coming since their reared their ugly head back several years ago. The chickenhawk spawn are coming home to roost. And furthermore, I suspect that factoid has a lot to do with how our Co in Chief has to step so gingerly about the manner in which he function while in office.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 04:51 PM

3. It is time to start pulling passports, the UK says they are going to end their citizenship.

This appears to be acts of treason.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 04:57 PM

5. Why on Earth would we allow them back in?

 

Other than to go straight to jail that is.

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Response to seveneyes (Reply #5)

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 05:40 PM

6. Perhaps because treasonous scumbags

like Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld et al haven't been charged for the war crimes which led to this entire mess.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 05:46 PM

7. I see death by air strike in their futures

 

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Response to 3rdwaydem (Reply #7)

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 08:23 PM

15. I certainly hope so

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 05:52 PM

8. Note this is not from The Nation, the news magazine edited by Katrina vanden Heuvel...

but from The Nation, a Pakistani newspaper. And they're quoting the Washington Times.

So, It's probably bullshit.

Sid

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Response to SidDithers (Reply #8)

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 05:59 PM

9. the news made MSM also

The chilling warning comes as British Prime Minister David Cameron ordered the U.K. terror threat level raised to “severe” yesterday, the second-highest rating.

“The estimate of how many Americans are fighting for ISIS right now runs between 50 and 300, which is the real threat,” international security expert John Pike said, adding the prime target would be a crowded place.
http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/national/2014/08/fears_isis_could_use_traitors_to_hit_us

Intel believes 300 Americans fighting with Islamic State, posing threat to U.S.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/aug/26/us-citizens-joining-islamic-state-pose-major-threa/?utm_source=RSS_Feed&utm_medium=RSS

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #9)

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 06:51 PM

12. oh my--apparently that whole piece in the boston paper (we won't even bother with the

washington times) was all "I think, I feel, my opinion, could be, we fear", without anything resembling actual data or proof.


the bogeyman is coming!!

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #9)

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 06:51 PM

13. Sorry, I don't consider Moonie Times as credible...

I'm not a fan of right-wing sourcing at DU.

Sid

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #9)

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 06:53 PM

14. did you read the comments at the end of the boston herald article? reichwing hysteria

through and through.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 08:28 PM

16. I'm surprised ISIS would take any American militia types

"Sorry, dude, but you're quite simply ape-shit crazy. You're making the other jihadists uneasy. Maybe try getting on at Fox?"

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 08:43 PM

17. I've seen estimates as high as 4000-5000 Westerners who ran off to join them

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Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #17)

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 09:16 PM

18. Obama's gonna need bigger drones. n/t

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 09:47 PM

19. One who was just killed was from this area

They exist. How many exactly, I don't know. I expect the estimates are more like guesses, but there definitely are Americans there. And don't think they are all born Muslim. We've had two from this area recently killed who had no ethnic ties to the region and only converted to Islam as adults.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Sat Aug 30, 2014, 09:58 PM

20. Yup and the American people's tax dollars are going towards suppling them with weapons and training

 

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http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/syria-arming-the-rebels/

NARRATOR: But in recent weeks, they have been receiving more sophisticated weapons. It appears the Obama administration is now allowing select groups of rebels like them to receive U.S.-made anti-tank missiles, known as TOWs. Many of the fighters have filmed themselves firing the missiles. In addition to receiving weapons, the commander says he and his men were taken on a long journey to a secret training camp.

REBEL COMMANDER: [through interpreter] They asked for a group of 80 or 90 fighters from our command, and we headed towards the Turkish border.

NARRATOR: Based on their accounts, we retraced their journey across the border into Turkey. After a 14-hour drive, they say they arrived in the Turkish capital of Ankara and were brought to a hotel. They were kept inside and questioned by Americans, who would only say they were from the military. But the rebels believed they were from the CIA.

REBEL COMMANDER: [through interpreter] We met them for six to seven hours a day. It was medical examinations, questions for each person individually, like, “When did you join the uprising?” And “What was your profession or military rank?”

They had tracked our work and asked us to verify information about attacks we carried out, such as who was present and how many men were martyred. Your responses have to match the entire group’s.

NARRATOR: A week later, the rebels say they were surprised by what happened next.

REBEL COMMANDER: [through interpreter] We only found out where we were going to be trained on the last day in Ankara, when the Americans said goodbye and that, “Tomorrow, we’ll see you in Qatar.”

NARRATOR: They were flown 1,500 miles away to Doha, the capital of Qatar, which is a key U.S. ally in the Persian Gulf.

REBEL COMMANDER: [through interpreter] We drove for about two, two-and-a-half hours to reach the training ground. It was close to the Saudi border. We didn’t know where we were because it was desert all around.

NARRATOR: Over the course of three weeks, they say they were trained by Americans at a base in the desert guarded by Qatari soldiers. Like many of the rebels who were sent to Qatar, 21-year-old Hussein had never had any previous military training.

HUSSEIN: [through interpreter] They trained us to ambush regime or enemy vehicles and cut off the road. They also trained us on how to attack a vehicle, raid it, retrieve information or weapons and munitions, and how to finish off soldiers still alive after an ambush.

NARRATOR: The rebels were outfitted with brand-new uniforms and boots.

MUHAMMAD ALI: [subtitles] Those trousers are from them, right?

HUSSEIN: [subtitles] Yeah. We got these boots in training.

MUHAMMAD ALI: The Americans were warning the fighters not to tell this story at all. And even at one point, they told them, “If in any case this story will be published, we will stop funding you or arming you.”

NARRATOR: The CIA and the State Department declined to comment on the fighters’ accounts of arming and training, though the Obama administration has said it plans to step up support to the rebels, and there have been other reports the CIA is running covert training out of Jordan.

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