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pampango

(24,692 posts)
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 10:49 AM Sep 2014

"In the decade after World War II, the United States produced more goods than the rest of the world

combined. Now America’s share of world production is about 20 percent, which, depending on how you count, is about the same as China’s or slightly more.

Most of this change reflects other countries’ rise rather than any American decline. In fact, U.S. manufacturing output is about six times higher than it was in 1950; American workers are nearly 10 times more productive than those in China. Moreover, as any country develops—even factory-dense China, even a champion industrial exporter like Germany or Japan—the share of manufacturing in its economy steadily shrinks, as the service activities that mark a richer society, from health care to education to travel, grow more rapidly.

But there is a trend worth worrying about, which is the disappearance of manufacturing jobs from the workforce. Shortly after World War II, about one-quarter of employed Americans held manufacturing jobs. Now less than one-tenth do. From the perspective of individual businesses, this change is natural and desirable—rising productivity by definition means fewer people making more things. But it is troublesome for society as a whole, since factory jobs have historically buoyed the middle class and given rise to future industries and jobs, virtuous-cycle style.

Manufacturing may become strangely less international.

Despite all this—and despite everything we’ve heard through the decades about companies offshoring their factories in search of ever-cheaper pay—high-value manufacturing may increasingly be within each nation’s ability to control. McKinsey’s report divides manufacturing activities into five categories, including minimum-wage sweatshop work at one end and highly precise and mechanized aerospace or medical-tech production at the other. Of these, McKinsey forecasts, the categories that will grow fastest, and pay best, will largely be those whose producers and customers are located in the same country rather than separated by long ocean-freight journeys or expensive air trips.

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http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2014/10/made-in-america-again/379343/?single_page=true

US manufacturing may have increased tremendously since 1950 but productivity has increased by much, much more resulting in far fewer manufacturing employees



The only way to make employment in manufacturing increase is for the rate of increase in manufacturing output to be more than the rate of increase on productivity. That does not seem to be happening in any developed country.

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"In the decade after World War II, the United States produced more goods than the rest of the world (Original Post) pampango Sep 2014 OP
We were in a very patriot time yeoman6987 Sep 2014 #1
Oh, and the rest of the modern world was burned to the ground AngryAmish Sep 2014 #2
Seriously jberryhill Sep 2014 #5
It said after World War II yeoman6987 Sep 2014 #8
Much of which went to rebuilding Europe and Japan jberryhill Sep 2014 #3
There was little competition from other countries after WWII since many Malraiders Sep 2014 #4
I don't understand this fixation on manufacturing jobs... TreasonousBastard Sep 2014 #6
Why aren't daycare workers making $25 an hour? leftstreet Sep 2014 #7
They are not going to pay day care workers 25 dollars an hour when some are willing to work for 8. yeoman6987 Sep 2014 #9
Demand is based upon cost being substantially less than 1 person makes. One_Life_To_Give Sep 2014 #11
duh--we also destroyed all the industry in Europe 1942-45. librechik Sep 2014 #10
 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
1. We were in a very patriot time
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 10:58 AM
Sep 2014

Everyone banded together and worked harder than any other time in our history. Right now everyone is out for themselves and only themselves. Until we have a paradigm shift, we will continue to decline.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
5. Seriously
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 11:01 AM
Sep 2014

Let's bomb all the factories in China and India and see if that helps our share of world manufacturing. It's no mystery.
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
3. Much of which went to rebuilding Europe and Japan
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 11:00 AM
Sep 2014

Quite obviously, having bombed the crap out of European industry set them back, and then we embarked on projects to rebuild them.

Malraiders

(444 posts)
4. There was little competition from other countries after WWII since many
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 11:00 AM
Sep 2014

countries' manufacturing infrastructure had been ruined by war.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
6. I don't understand this fixation on manufacturing jobs...
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 11:06 AM
Sep 2014

Barring some horrific catastrophe, there is no way we'll ever be going back to the old days of the factory floor in most industries. Automation and robotics are the future, no matter how nostalgic we may be for the sweatshop.

So, rather than bemoaning the loss of buggy-whip makers, shouldn't we be thinking about just what to do with future generations of jobseekers? Tales abound of countries with much of an entire generation walking the streets idle looking at a dismal future with no decent employment.

That could be us some day. A day sooner than we think.


leftstreet

(36,108 posts)
7. Why aren't daycare workers making $25 an hour?
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 11:12 AM
Sep 2014

Fast food workers? Retail workers? All service and information labor...

since factory jobs have historically buoyed the middle class and given rise to future industries and jobs, virtuous-cycle style.


Guess it's time to rethink what 'middle class' really means
 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
9. They are not going to pay day care workers 25 dollars an hour when some are willing to work for 8.
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 12:54 PM
Sep 2014

Until workers refuse to take those type of jobs, they will pay offered wage. Now if you want to make 25 dollars an hour doing almost anything. Move to North Dakota. That state is doing astonishingly well.

One_Life_To_Give

(6,036 posts)
11. Demand is based upon cost being substantially less than 1 person makes.
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 01:48 PM
Sep 2014

Look at your Daycare customers. The choice is between working for pay and staying home to take car of their child(children). If they are going to give up the later the former must be sufficiently valuable after deducting expenses to justify time away from family. At ten kids per daycare worker it could support higher wages. But at the current mandated numbers it's not going to happen unless you cater to Goldman Sachs employees.

librechik

(30,674 posts)
10. duh--we also destroyed all the industry in Europe 1942-45.
Thu Sep 18, 2014, 01:09 PM
Sep 2014

We ought to be acting as if we were doing the same thing for some distressed country, i.e. the US!

damn the anti-social Congress!

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