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big_dog

(4,144 posts)
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 02:27 PM Sep 2014

Elisabeth Hasselbeck: Elections A ‘More Meaningful Measure’ If Voters Must Pass Test

Fox News host Elisabeth Hasselbeck on Monday argued that requiring a “citizenship test” to vote made the outcome of elections “more meaningful.” Two Republican state legislators in Utah last week announced a bill that would require students to pass a citizenship test before they could graduate high school. Former Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O’Connor, journalist Carl Bernstein, former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani and actor Joe Mantegna were backing similar measures in Utah and six other states.

On Monday, Utah Civics Education Initiative co-chair Lorena Riffo-Jensen told Hasselbeck that requiring a civics test was a good first step for encouraging students to be involved in the community. Hasselbeck suggested taking the idea “one step further” by requiring a test to vote. “Should you have to answer, I mean, the majority of these questions?” she wondered. “If not by graduation of high school, but by the time you vote?”

“I think, personally, that anything you can do to ensure that our young people, our families are involved in civics, learning the history of our country is a positive,” Riffo-Jensen agreed. “And furthermore, how can you go into planning what the generation will do in the future if you’re not prepared and understanding where we have been… You cannot be engaged without having the full knowledge and understanding of your nation.”

“It’s a more meaningful measure when you vote perhaps too,” Hasselbeck declared. “I just wouldn’t understand how we can be engaged citizens and voting if we don’t know the history, how our government works, and I think this is something very important for all of us as Americans,” Riffo-Jensen said. One part of “the history” that the Fox News segment did not cover, however, was how so-called literacy tests were used to disenfranchise black voters during segregation. http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/09/elisabeth-hasselbeck-elections-a-more-meaningful-measure-if-voters-must-pass-a-test/

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Elisabeth Hasselbeck: Elections A ‘More Meaningful Measure’ If Voters Must Pass Test (Original Post) big_dog Sep 2014 OP
RWers like to talk about voting tests, but they should thank their lucky stars there isn't one. aikoaiko Sep 2014 #1
I think Hassel-witch needs an intelligence test to hostess Faux News in the Mornings big_dog Sep 2014 #2
I thought a low score was a requirement for that show? LondonReign2 Sep 2014 #13
+1 Kalidurga Sep 2014 #3
Word! Brother Buzz Sep 2014 #4
No, what they mean is THEY get to make up the test questions tularetom Sep 2014 #11
And of course they get to make up the answers rock Sep 2014 #26
Then a great reason to have one! strawberries Sep 2014 #12
She would need to first be able to pass such a test herself to understand why this is a bad idea. gordianot Sep 2014 #5
Excellent point. Louisiana1976 Sep 2014 #28
Sure, the folks who make the Common Core tests will supply materials -- for a fee. immoderate Sep 2014 #6
for an example of what they're thinking: unblock Sep 2014 #7
On the bright side, the vast majority of Faux viewers would flunk, so... n/t UTUSN Sep 2014 #8
I foresee a hugely partisan test. louis-t Sep 2014 #29
lol treestar Sep 2014 #35
Moron. What did she ever do? Wiggled and jiggled for Survivor? closeupready Sep 2014 #9
PROBST said the other day everybody on Survivor liked her & he still does but UTUSN Sep 2014 #33
She certainly seems eager to please on a personal level, so closeupready Sep 2014 #36
One question test. Half-Century Man Sep 2014 #10
Excuse me but I don't need to know 3x4 or pass a literacy test to know when a party is screwing me. kelliekat44 Sep 2014 #14
That's one way to ensure GOP never has a majority again. JaneyVee Sep 2014 #15
Lucky for Hasselback, she doesn't have to pass a test on the history of voting in order to vote. MohRokTah Sep 2014 #16
Two possibilities: Hasselbeck is totally ignorant, or she isn't gratuitous Sep 2014 #17
If a prospective voter can read a teleprompter... Orsino Sep 2014 #18
I think it would disenfranchise half their base N/T sailfla Sep 2014 #19
"Meanwhile, have another glass of Kool-Aid." lpbk2713 Sep 2014 #20
Hasselbeck would have trouble passing any such test Gothmog Sep 2014 #21
It's OK, she's got the immunity idol. Gidney N Cloyd Sep 2014 #25
This women is an insult to dumb blondes ksoze Sep 2014 #22
More RW propaganda sneakily posted here. Kingofalldems Sep 2014 #23
News is more meaningful when you don't get it from Fox. Gidney N Cloyd Sep 2014 #24
If it was an IQ test, she couldn't vote. Let's put that one in place. Only intelligent appleannie1 Sep 2014 #27
I agree in general with sadoldgirl Sep 2014 #30
Actually practicing democracy is more important than learning about it gollygee Sep 2014 #31
Ignorant of fanning flames? Literacy tests were a Jim Crow era limit in black voting underpants Sep 2014 #32
People with learning disabilities would be disenfranchised. Ilsa Sep 2014 #34
Didn't we already try that? KamaAina Sep 2014 #37
... napkinz Sep 2014 #38
can you say JIM CROW!!! napkinz Sep 2014 #39
I agree. GeorgeGist Sep 2014 #40
 

big_dog

(4,144 posts)
2. I think Hassel-witch needs an intelligence test to hostess Faux News in the Mornings
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 02:31 PM
Sep 2014

she and Steve Doocy would most definitely fail

LondonReign2

(5,213 posts)
13. I thought a low score was a requirement for that show?
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 02:44 PM
Sep 2014

In which case, Elizabeth and Dumb and Dumber are the perfect hosts.

gordianot

(15,242 posts)
5. She would need to first be able to pass such a test herself to understand why this is a bad idea.
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 02:35 PM
Sep 2014

By her suggesting this she clearly failed that test.

 

immoderate

(20,885 posts)
6. Sure, the folks who make the Common Core tests will supply materials -- for a fee.
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 02:38 PM
Sep 2014

And then they will ask you if corporations are people, and if money is speech, and if Jesus wrote the Constitution. And you better get it right!

--imm

louis-t

(23,295 posts)
29. I foresee a hugely partisan test.
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 04:06 PM
Sep 2014

1. Who is the bestest president who ever lived? Answer: Reagan. Also acceptable: Raegan, Raygun, Reigin, etc.

2. What was the U.S. like before Reagan saved us? Answer: It was a terrible place run by liberal communists, junkies and whores.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
9. Moron. What did she ever do? Wiggled and jiggled for Survivor?
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 02:41 PM
Sep 2014

And failed at even THAT. So you know the expression, be careful what you wish for. Same thing here.

UTUSN

(70,711 posts)
33. PROBST said the other day everybody on Survivor liked her & he still does but
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 04:46 PM
Sep 2014

first he said he doesn't agree with "everything" she believes, then he went on and on and it sounded like he doesn't agree with ANYTHING she believes, and he ended saying he doesn't know how she got to the things she now says.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
36. She certainly seems eager to please on a personal level, so
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 05:16 PM
Sep 2014

I get that everyone who knows her likes her. It's funny, though, that Probst seems to understand that she is a political basket case, lol.

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
10. One question test.
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 02:41 PM
Sep 2014
"Do you believe some peoples' votes should count more or be suppressed?"

A Yes answer disqualifies you to vote this cycle.
 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
16. Lucky for Hasselback, she doesn't have to pass a test on the history of voting in order to vote.
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 02:54 PM
Sep 2014

Otherwise, she would know how, historically, passing a test in order to vote has been used to disenfranchise African Americans.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
17. Two possibilities: Hasselbeck is totally ignorant, or she isn't
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 02:55 PM
Sep 2014

Either Hasselbeck is totally ignorant of this country's shameful history concerning "tests" for voting, or she knows good and well who administered those tests, how they were administered, and who was disenfranchised (at the very least) for decades.

Voting is a right, Ms. Hasselbeck. That means someone doesn't come schlumping down the line at the polling place, and pull citizens out of line, deciding this person doesn't get to vote, but that person does. No matter what some Supreme Court Justices did in their formative years. If you don't know that, then shut up until you learn something. If you do know that, and this kind of pig-ignorant statement still falls out of your mouth, why don't you really shut up?

ksoze

(2,068 posts)
22. This women is an insult to dumb blondes
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 03:01 PM
Sep 2014

Her claim to fame was as a contestant on a reality show and now thrives on saying anything that will get medi attention - that is usually stupid stuff and she is a master.

appleannie1

(5,067 posts)
27. If it was an IQ test, she couldn't vote. Let's put that one in place. Only intelligent
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 03:58 PM
Sep 2014

people can vote. That would totally end the Tea Party.

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
30. I agree in general with
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 04:07 PM
Sep 2014

the need for more civics classes. I think they have been more or less disregarded.

Seems to me though that she does not realize that many of her listeners could not pass it.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
31. Actually practicing democracy is more important than learning about it
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 04:11 PM
Sep 2014

It's important to learn about it, but to suggest using learning about it as a way to circumvent it is scary. I'm sure a lot of people agree with her.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
34. People with learning disabilities would be disenfranchised.
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 04:49 PM
Sep 2014

They might have the "IQ" or reasoning ability to understand issues and policies, but do poorly on tests.

I'm amazed that Conservatives would think this would benefit them over anyone else.

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