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Tue Sep 30, 2014, 09:45 PM

Bush NEVER ONCE did this.

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Reply Bush NEVER ONCE did this. (Original post)
riqster Sep 2014 OP
CaliforniaPeggy Sep 2014 #1
Lochloosa Sep 2014 #2
NYC_SKP Sep 2014 #3
Rex Sep 2014 #4
Scarsdale Oct 2014 #29
7962 Oct 2014 #72
Rex Oct 2014 #74
Kingofalldems Oct 2014 #75
Rex Oct 2014 #76
7962 Oct 2014 #79
Rex Oct 2014 #85
Rex Oct 2014 #86
sheshe2 Sep 2014 #5
freshwest Sep 2014 #8
sheshe2 Sep 2014 #10
riqster Sep 2014 #12
sheshe2 Sep 2014 #13
calimary Sep 2014 #6
sheshe2 Sep 2014 #11
Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #22
Scarsdale Oct 2014 #31
riqster Oct 2014 #33
calimary Oct 2014 #67
riqster Oct 2014 #70
calimary Oct 2014 #73
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stonecutter357 Oct 2014 #37
SidDithers Oct 2014 #95
Octafish Sep 2014 #7
BlancheSplanchnik Sep 2014 #16
Guy Whitey Corngood Oct 2014 #23
adirondacker Oct 2014 #82
pangaia Sep 2014 #9
polmaven Oct 2014 #36
pangaia Oct 2014 #39
stopwastingmymoney Sep 2014 #14
CaptainTruth Sep 2014 #15
BlancheSplanchnik Sep 2014 #17
FlatStanley Sep 2014 #18
Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #21
baldguy Oct 2014 #32
FlatStanley Oct 2014 #44
truedelphi Oct 2014 #71
FlatStanley Oct 2014 #77
baldguy Oct 2014 #84
FlatStanley Oct 2014 #88
baldguy Oct 2014 #90
FlatStanley Oct 2014 #91
baldguy Oct 2014 #92
FlatStanley Oct 2014 #93
baldguy Oct 2014 #94
FlatStanley Oct 2014 #96
SidDithers Oct 2014 #98
FlatStanley Oct 2014 #99
baldguy Oct 2014 #105
Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #97
FlatStanley Oct 2014 #43
7962 Oct 2014 #80
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stonecutter357 Oct 2014 #38
riqster Oct 2014 #42
FlatStanley Oct 2014 #45
LanternWaste Oct 2014 #54
Cha Oct 2014 #24
FlatStanley Oct 2014 #48
grahamhgreen Oct 2014 #25
FlatStanley Oct 2014 #49
grahamhgreen Oct 2014 #52
FlatStanley Oct 2014 #56
grahamhgreen Oct 2014 #63
MADem Oct 2014 #26
JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #27
IronLionZion Oct 2014 #28
ProfessorGAC Oct 2014 #35
RedCappedBandit Oct 2014 #30
tecelote Oct 2014 #34
DeadLetterOffice Oct 2014 #64
heaven05 Oct 2014 #40
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Lenomsky Oct 2014 #41
riqster Oct 2014 #51
former9thward Oct 2014 #46
JayhawkSD Oct 2014 #47
riqster Oct 2014 #50
JayhawkSD Oct 2014 #53
ctsnowman Oct 2014 #55
Initech Oct 2014 #58
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Initech Oct 2014 #61
Marr Oct 2014 #60
riqster Oct 2014 #65
Gothmog Oct 2014 #62
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blkmusclmachine Oct 2014 #68
Raffi Ella Oct 2014 #78
erpowers Oct 2014 #81
riqster Oct 2014 #83
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riqster Oct 2014 #89
Jenoch Oct 2014 #100
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Response to riqster (Original post)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 09:50 PM

1. And ain't that the truth?

K&R

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Response to riqster (Original post)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 09:52 PM

2. Booked marked so I have this pic

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Response to riqster (Original post)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 09:53 PM

3. Recommended. (nt)

 

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Response to riqster (Original post)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 09:54 PM

4. True, the corporate media even helped Bush keep the caskets off the frontpage news.

 

Bush and Cheney are pathetic warmongers.

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Response to Rex (Reply #4)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 06:47 AM

29. Jogging

I was disgusted to see W jogging with young servicepeople with artificial limbs that HE was responsible for. Smirking, making sure the camera was on him. Disgusting, coward who was AWOL during his National Guard term. Now the repubs. want Jeb in the WH? Sick of the entire family, bleeding the taxpayers.

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Response to Rex (Reply #4)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 01:19 PM

72. Until 2009, no media was allowed to film returning caskets.

 

So the media were just following the rules at the time. Even now, consent of family is needed.

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Response to 7962 (Reply #72)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 01:45 PM

74. In 2003 the Bush WH banned media cameras from taking pictures.

 

They did their best to hide the bodies coming home.

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Response to 7962 (Reply #72)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 01:48 PM

75. Oops. Guess you were wrong.

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Response to Kingofalldems (Reply #75)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 01:55 PM

76. Those good media lap dogs! Always following the rules!

 

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Response to Kingofalldems (Reply #75)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 04:36 PM

79. No, I'm NOT wrong. It was policy long before W.

 

From 2009: "The Pentagon this year lifted its 18-year ban on the news media covering the return of U.S. service members killed in action, as long as the family consents to the coverage."
"Many mistakenly believe that it was President George W. Bush who enacted the ban."
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=7265545

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Response to 7962 (Reply #79)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 07:52 PM

85. George Bush put the ban in place in 1991. My mistake it was his DAD.

 

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Response to Kingofalldems (Reply #75)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 07:53 PM

86. He is right, it was George Bush sr. in 1991!

 

Those fucking scumbag GOPukers...they always disrespect our war dead.

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Response to riqster (Original post)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 10:02 PM

5. Thanks rigster.

And here in one image, two people maligned endlessly. Hillary and Obama honoring the dead.





President Obama's full statement:

The United States has an unwavering commitment to bring to justice those responsible for harming Americans. Since the deadly attacks on our facilities in Benghazi, I have made it a priority to find and bring to justice those responsible for the deaths of four brave Americans. I recently authorized an operation in Libya to detain an individual charged for his role in these attacks, Ahmed Abu Khatallah. The fact that he is now in U.S. custody is a testament to the painstaking efforts of our military, law enforcement, and intelligence personnel. Because of their courage and professionalism, this individual will now face the full weight of the American justice system.

Even as we welcome the success of this operation, we also pause to remember the four Americans who gave their lives in Benghazi representing their country: Ambassador Chris Stevens, Sean Smith, Tyrone Woods, and Glen Doherty. As I said shortly after the attack, they exemplified the values that we stand for as a nation, including a commitment to freedom and justice. All Americans should be grateful for their service, just as we are grateful to all our personnel – civilian and military – who represent our country around the globe. We will continue to honor our fallen by carrying on their efforts in support of the Libyan people’s aspirations to live in a peaceful, prosperous, and democratic society.

With this operation, the United States has once again demonstrated that we will do whatever it takes to see that justice is done when people harm Americans. We will continue our efforts to bring to justice those who were responsible for the Benghazi attacks. We will remain vigilant against all acts of terrorism, and we will continue to prioritize the protection of our service-members and civilians overseas. We will also sustain our support for the Libyan people, as they work to overcome years of tyranny and do the difficult work of building a democracy.


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/06/17/1307630/-Benghazi-suspect-captured-now-in-U-S-custody#

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #5)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 10:14 PM

8. Thanks, sheshe.

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Response to freshwest (Reply #8)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 10:20 PM

10. That's one of the first pictures I posted here.

Or tried to. I could not figure out how to do it, someone posted it for me and told me how to make it so.

freashwest.

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #5)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 10:33 PM

12. Thanks back atcha for your post.

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Response to riqster (Reply #12)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 10:40 PM

13. ...



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Response to riqster (Original post)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 10:08 PM

6. Yep. It was one of the first things the new President Obama did.

He passed the "Dover test." As in - going to Dover AFB when the flag-draped coffins of the latest war dead returned to American soil. To greet them as their Commander-in-Chief, and show a visible thank-you with his solemn presence, for their service and their ultimate sacrifice. chickenhawk bushie boy couldn't be seen doing this. GOD FORBID! Might actually remind America that our precious young ones were being fed into the bush/cheney/blackwater/halliburton meat grinder over there. They didn't want to trouble our "beautiful minds" about that icky stuff. What you don't know won't hurt us, America, you gullible chumps! Outta sight, outta mind, dontchaknow.

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Response to calimary (Reply #6)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 10:26 PM

11. Now that was well said calimary.

Brava.







Photos of the Week (09/16/12) - GreendaleNOW
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, in Benghazi, Libya, on Sept. 13. The American ambassador to Libya and three other Americans were killed when a mob of protesters and gunmen overwhelmed the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, setting fire to

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #11)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 12:39 AM

22. I'll have respect for both Obama and Clinton when they address the nation on how they

advised their own children to put their boots on the ground.

Nope. That would never happen. Dead children for empire is for poor people. The rich, like Clinton and Obama, experience photo ops.

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Response to Luminous Animal (Reply #22)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 06:55 AM

31. Oh, puleeze!

W went AWOL during his "service" His Daddy arranged a cushy assignment, and W was not capable of fulfilling it! Daddy also bought him slots at Harvard and Yale, that W was too ignorant to appreciate. Where were Cheney's kids? spending daddy's hard earned $$$$ from blood money of Halliburton. What about Romney's sons? Oh, right, according to Mittens they served the country by trying to help their Daddy get elected President. Trying to "fix" the ballots, but it did not work. We elected a man with BRAINS for a change.

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Response to Scarsdale (Reply #31)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 07:02 AM

33. Oh nononono, Bush and Obama are exactly the same...

According to some people around here, anyway. Eedjits.

Thanks for your post.

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Response to riqster (Reply #33)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 11:48 AM

67. Yep. And that's EXACTLY the kind of thinking that's gonna lose us the Senate.

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Response to calimary (Reply #67)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 12:56 PM

70. Yep. Drat that darned pony shortage, anyway...

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Response to riqster (Reply #70)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 01:21 PM

73. There MUST be a pony! Under all that horse shit, there MUST be a pony!

If I just hold out and keep looking...

Never mind that my old skateboard's still over there, scuffed up and a little dirty, and can get me easily to any candy store in the neighborhood in minutes. But I'd rather stay home and sift through all this horse shit! Cuz I just KNOW there must be a pony in there somewhere! And I just won't settle for ANYTHING BUT THAT DAMN PONY!!!!!!!!

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Response to Luminous Animal (Reply #22)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 07:50 AM

37. .

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Response to Luminous Animal (Reply #22)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 10:21 PM

95. No you wont...nt

Sid

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Response to riqster (Original post)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 10:10 PM

7. Bush even ordered one Goldstar Mother not to sell her commemorative medal on E-bay.

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Response to Octafish (Reply #7)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 11:17 PM

16. I read it as, he JOKED to her, "don't go selling it on eBay " when he handed out the commemorative

She had asked him earlier how the mission could have gone down as it did, why she lost her son.

And he made that "joke" at her later. UNBELIEVABLE! That is prime psychopath behavior, right there. Beyond heartless.

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Response to Octafish (Reply #7)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 12:44 AM

23. Holy fucking shit! nt

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Response to Octafish (Reply #7)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 05:59 PM

82. Wow! That is some twisted shite even for the AWOL pretzel boy. nt

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Response to riqster (Original post)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 10:17 PM

9. But, but, he's not supposed to salute if he isn't wearing a hat,

is he? Plus he is not 'military," is he?

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Response to pangaia (Reply #9)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 07:23 AM

36. Well, I think it is OK,

as long as he is not wearing a tan suit!

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Response to polmaven (Reply #36)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 08:04 AM

39. Ah ha ! Gotcha..

Thanks for clearing that up.

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Response to riqster (Original post)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 10:53 PM

14. K n R

Excellent, stealing for facebook

Esp 'bleats' lol

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Response to riqster (Original post)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 11:12 PM

15. I remember the coffins coming back ...

Seemed like it was always in the middle of the night, Bush's attempt to hide the results of his evil deeds in the darkness. There was one picture that got out, rows of coffins, covered in flags, in the belly of a massive airplane. Every one a life cut short, a lifetime of joy & love & infinite experiences ... taken ... all for a lie. I hung that picture on my wall so I could see it every day. Every American should have had that picture on their wall. That was the price we were paying ... & Bush wanted to keep it hidden.

I wanted to know more about that price, to not just see it in pictures, but to feel it, real, in front of me. So when a local serviceman was killed in Iraq, I went to his funeral. I didn't know him or anyone else there, but I knew what he represented. I saw his flag-covered coffin. His wife will always have a neatly-folded flag, but she will never again have him ... the love of her life. I saw the sadness & loss ... & I felt it. I felt it far more than Bush ever did.

Every American should attend a military funeral. It is a very humbling experience ... & it can make you think differently about the true cost of war.

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Response to CaptainTruth (Reply #15)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 11:18 PM

17. :(

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Response to riqster (Original post)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 11:44 PM

18. Nice!

 

Bush was a psychopath. By definition he had no conscience.

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Response to FlatStanley (Reply #18)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 12:31 AM

21. And why does Obama keep bombing the crap out of people?

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Response to Luminous Animal (Reply #21)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 06:56 AM

32. Ignoring Bush's mess won't make it go away.

 

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Response to baldguy (Reply #32)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 10:26 AM

44. Neither does perpetuating Bush's mess.

 

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Response to FlatStanley (Reply #44)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 01:06 PM

71. O. would not have been chosen by the PTB if they thought he would

Go down a different path.

It is a shame that so many in the Democratic Party thought (and think) that they chose him.

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Response to truedelphi (Reply #71)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 02:39 PM

77. I think we choose who we want. It takes little effort to believe the lies and ignore actions.

 

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Response to FlatStanley (Reply #44)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 07:35 PM

84. Which is plainly NOT what is happening here.

 

And if you believe it is, then you're a RW tool.

Just ask yourself, who benefits when liberals attack the sitting Democratic President, or simply spread lies such as the one in your post? Democrats? Don't be absurd. Liberals? How has that worked out for you so far, huh?

The only people your attacks, falsehoods & lies help are RW Republicans. And you don't even get a "thank you".

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Response to baldguy (Reply #84)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 08:19 PM

88. You are correct.

 

Bush negotiated all troops out of Iraq. Obama is leaving troops in Afghanistan for another ten years.

Bush hardly used drones. Obama uses the drone as his go to response.

Bush instituted 100 percent of Bush tax cuts. Obama only kept 82 percent in place.

Are there some things Obama did that Bush didn't do? Sure.

Bush never said he would close Gitmo. Obama said he would.

Bush never said his wars would take years. Obama said his would take years.

Bush didn't vigorously pursue whistle blowers. Obama has tried more whistler blowers than all other Presidents combined.

If these are your values, you are no Democrat. You just vote for the D.

Now ask yourself. Who benefits when Democrats vote for any D on the ballot, regardless of actual policy?

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Response to FlatStanley (Reply #88)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 08:55 PM

90. If you believe Obama is worse than Bush, you're not a liberal, or a Democrat.

 

You're a RW tool. I hope that paycheck you got from Karl Rove was worth it.

What's that you say? You don't get paid by Karl Rove, or any other subversive RW trolls? I guess you're doing their work for free then, huh?

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Response to baldguy (Reply #90)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 09:39 PM

91. Before you make a complete fool of yourself with YOUR PURITY

 

You should know I voted for President Obama in 2008. I convinced my mother to vote for candidate Obama during the primaries even though I suspected this was my mother's best chance to vote for a viable female candidate. I also took my son to an Obama rally where went three hours early to get good seats. My son was fourteen at the time. I also told my daughter how lucky she was that her first presidential vote would be historic.

Now, fast forward to 2012. President Obama still received my daughter's vote and my son was ecstatic that his first vote would be for an historic President.

I, on the other hand, think actions count. So I looked at what the President did, not at what he said. And I found him wanting.

Do I think President Obama is worse than President Bush? I'll answer it like this. Like President Ford, President Obama let a criminal go unpunished. His failure to prosecute for war crimes, and to continue the Unitary Executive, and the perpetual war through false fear of faux terrorists has resulted in the codification of the aberration that was President Bush.

We may never recover. For that reason only I find President Obama worse than President Bush just as I found President Ford worse than President Nixon.

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Response to FlatStanley (Reply #91)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 09:47 PM

92. You've already made a fool of yourself with your false, baseless accusations.

 

If we never recover from the Bush disaster, it'll only be because people like you are more interested in phoney political purity than real progress, and are happy using RW attacks to bring down the Democrats like Obama who are tasked with the responsibility of leading the recovery.

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Response to baldguy (Reply #92)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 09:52 PM

93. I'm just making the President "do it" like he asked me to.

 

And if you don't draw the line at war crimes, well, I don't know how low your team can go. But your team is not the Democratic Party. Your team is the one with the D next to the politician's name, regardless of policy. And if President Bush had had a D next to his name, you would have voted for him too.

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Response to FlatStanley (Reply #93)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 10:08 PM

94. Predictable. You've entered crazy-assed Teabagger territory.

 

Trying to redefine reality to suit your needs. Unfortunately for you, reality doesn't work that way.

You're probably a fan of that lying sack of shit Greenwald, too, aren't you.

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Response to baldguy (Reply #94)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 10:43 PM

96. That would fit in your world view, I know.

 

I read Greenwald's work as well as others and draw my own conclusions. Living in the county whose Congressional Representative was murdered in Jonestown, I'm not a big fan of koolaid. I don't drink it.

But I do look forward to your unwavering support of boots on the ground in 2015.

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Response to FlatStanley (Reply #96)

Thu Oct 2, 2014, 12:08 AM

98. Wow. Seriously?...nt

Sid

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Response to SidDithers (Reply #98)

Thu Oct 2, 2014, 12:19 AM

99. Seriously what?

 

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Response to SidDithers (Reply #98)

Thu Oct 2, 2014, 08:49 PM

105. Right, supporting the Democratic President & the Democratic Party is now "drinking koolaid" on DU.

 

This is Teabagger territory.

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Response to baldguy (Reply #32)

Thu Oct 2, 2014, 12:06 AM

97. Continuing Bush's strategy won't make it go away.

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Response to Luminous Animal (Reply #21)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 10:25 AM

43. Because Chess.

 

And Peace Prizes
And Not Romney
And My Team

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Response to Luminous Animal (Reply #21)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 04:39 PM

80. Because some people NEED the crap bombed out of them!

 

Obama sees a LOT more of whats going on in the world than we do.

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Response to riqster (Original post)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 12:22 AM

19. Oh, man. Can we PLEASE have this as the picture of the day tomorrow?

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Response to riqster (Original post)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 12:29 AM

20. Yes. Bush was an asshole. But Jesus Fucking Christ. Saluting the dead does not absolve Obama

from continuing our endless wars.

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Response to Luminous Animal (Reply #20)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 07:51 AM

38. .

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Response to Luminous Animal (Reply #20)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 10:25 AM

42. The OP NEVER SAID IT DID.

JF Christ back atcha.

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Response to Luminous Animal (Reply #20)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 10:28 AM

45. Yes it does. It shows he cares.

 

And it promotes drone usage, so that only other people die. It's what make us the the home of the brave.

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Response to Luminous Animal (Reply #20)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 10:42 AM

54. The phrase directly and unequivocally implying that his salute absolves him is where exactly?

 

The phrase directly and unequivocally implying that his salute absolves him is where exactly?

Or was your own implication stated as such to merely to add melodrama to a potion which consists of little else...?

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Response to riqster (Original post)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 01:18 AM

24. Bushco wanted to cover up the dead soldiers.. Pres Obama is acknowledging them and that they

are honored.

Obviously some don't get that.

thanks riqster

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Response to Cha (Reply #24)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 10:30 AM

48. We do get it. We also get that drones eases our conscience thus making perpetual war palatable.

 

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Response to riqster (Original post)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 03:54 AM

25. How will we pay to take care of our troops in this new war?

 

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Response to grahamhgreen (Reply #25)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 10:31 AM

49. Good stamps. Pay attention.

 

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Response to FlatStanley (Reply #49)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 10:37 AM

52. Oh yeah....

 

Food stamps

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Response to grahamhgreen (Reply #52)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 10:52 AM

56. I hate auto-incorrect! Or maybe my fingers are too big

 

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Response to FlatStanley (Reply #56)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 11:02 AM

63. Gets me all the time!

 

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Response to riqster (Original post)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 04:58 AM

26. Ain't that the truth!

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Response to riqster (Original post)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 05:08 AM

27. Thanks for this!

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Response to riqster (Original post)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 06:23 AM

28. What Bush never once did

was send troops after Bin Laden.

But still, the coffee cups...

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Response to IronLionZion (Reply #28)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 07:11 AM

35. You Forgot The Tan Suit

That and the coffee cup thing. Bush never wore a tan suit!

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Response to riqster (Original post)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 06:51 AM

30. The best way to honor the dead

is to make sure they're the last

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Response to riqster (Original post)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 07:08 AM

34. They showed the fighting and the coffins on television for Vietnam and American's hated that war.

Now, it's all whitewashed with "Boots on the Ground" and "Collateral Damage".

Americans seem to be fine with endless war as long as it is packaged correctly.

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Response to tecelote (Reply #34)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 11:24 AM

64. Also, no draft.

The "all volunteer military" makes it easier for some people to stomach the relentless military interventions.

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Response to riqster (Original post)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 08:54 AM

40. bushieboy. jr

 

is/was a spoiled little rich kid who was also an awol coward. Drunk, high and partying while myself and hundreds of thousands more visited the war of my generation. I have nothing but disdain for that waste of human flesh/user of oxygen. Romtwit, darth and many other 'leaders' are that in name only. No respect here, NONE. I do respect a commander-in-chief that acknowledges our honored dead, WITH A SALUTE. And that C-17 landing late at night, during king georges reign, with all those flag draped coffins in it sealed it for me. Bush was trying to hide his evil.

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Response to heaven05 (Reply #40)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 10:55 AM

57. Thought you may like this

A detailed list of all of those who sold you Great Vietnam Vets out.

http://www.nhgazette.com/chickenhawks/

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Response to 4Q2u2 (Reply #57)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 12:39 PM

69. I do like

 

thanks. Not surprised though, a politician, is a politician, is a politician.........ad infinitum....

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Response to riqster (Original post)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 10:23 AM

41. Very emotional :(

Normally things like this don't affect me but this did .. maybe because I really respect Obama and have empathy for anybody that's passed especially young people that never got much time.

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Response to Lenomsky (Reply #41)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 10:37 AM

51. Good point. Kids who die for their countries get a raw deal.

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Response to riqster (Original post)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 10:29 AM

46. I wish Obama would pull our troops out of Afghanistan and Iraq.

That way no one would have to greet coffins.

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Response to riqster (Original post)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 10:30 AM

47. One thing bothers me about the picture in the original post.

 

A fallen soldier is coming home carried by and being met by his brothers in arms who are wearing fatigue uniforms. To me that is a gesture of disrespect, although it seems the modern military does not regard "undress" uniforms the same way that we did when I served.

We were not allowed off base in anything other than "Class A" dress uniform, squared away and looking professional. We were proud to serve and wore the uniform with respect. We would never slouch around in public spaces in dungarees, or in dress uniform hatless. Today one almost never sees a service person wearing anything other than fatigue uniform, and half the time they do not bother with a hat. I don't know how that affects most people, but it certainly reduces my respect for them. They look like bums who have no respect for their service.

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Response to JayhawkSD (Reply #47)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 10:35 AM

50. I believe the ceremony was at Dover AFB. On post.

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Response to riqster (Reply #50)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 10:42 AM

53. Doesn't justify fatigues.

 

The ceremony itself, the import of the monemt in which a fallen soldier is returning home, and the presence of the President of The United States of America, absolutely demand Class A uniform.

In my day, a formation being reviewed by the captain of the ship required Class A's, and a review by the Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces certainly would. The idea that President Eisenhower would see us in fatigues would make our Captain faint.

Yes, sadly, I am that old, but I also served under Kennedy.

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Response to riqster (Original post)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 10:46 AM

55. Exactly!

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Response to riqster (Original post)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 10:55 AM

58. And Joe Biden has never done this:



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Response to Initech (Reply #58)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 10:57 AM

59. Nor did he shoot anyone in the face.

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Response to riqster (Reply #59)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 11:01 AM

61. And make the other guy apologize for getting in the way of his shot.

I still can't get over the balls that it takes to shoot a guy in the face and have him say "my bad".

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Response to riqster (Original post)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 10:59 AM

60. This seems so naive.

 

I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but this is a national politician managing his public image and selling policy. These politicians you adore don't love you back, and they don't cry for dead soldiers. Obama is stylistically different from Bush here-- but the person in the box is still dead.

It's odd to me how so many of the people who accuse the left of being emotional and irrational have such a childish view of political reality themselves, apparently seeing the whole thing as something like a professional wrestling match between good guys and bad guys.

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Response to Marr (Reply #60)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 11:26 AM

65. Nope. I am a bitter, cynical old fart.

This is a tool to use against Wingnuts, using facts to counter lies via a visual presentation.

It won't change anyone's mind on either side: but it can impact those in the middle.

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Response to riqster (Original post)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 11:02 AM

62. Bush was a bad CIC

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #62)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 11:27 AM

66. Illegal and illegitimate for starters. Then he got worse.

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Response to riqster (Original post)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 11:48 AM

68. Told the truth about something (including 9/11) ???

 

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Response to riqster (Original post)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 02:44 PM

78. K&R

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Response to riqster (Original post)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 04:43 PM

81. Actually, We Do Not Know

Considering there were no cameras there, we do not know what President Bush did, or did not do. He did not go to most funerals, but I do think President Bush met with families of the fallen. So it is very possible that he went to Dover and met the caskets of fallen soldiers.

Before you question whether or not I am a Bush bot, or a troll, I am not a Bush fan. I just know there were not photos taken at that time.

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Response to erpowers (Reply #81)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 06:41 PM

83. There are also no pictures of the Easter Bunny or Santa Claus.

The lack of photos in those cases is not taken as an indicator of possible existence.

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Response to riqster (Reply #83)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 07:56 PM

87. Totally Different

Those are two totally different issues and ideas. Everyone, except small children, know the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus are not real. We know they are not real because know they are characters from folk lore and storybooks. On the other hand, we know President Bush was real, Dover is/was real, real caskets were sent back to America. It is very possible that President Bush, on at least one occasion, greeted a returning casket. I do not think people should claim he did not greet the caskets when photos were not allowed during that time.

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Response to erpowers (Reply #87)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 08:37 PM

89. Since Bush prohibited the cameras, it's his own fault if there are none.

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Response to riqster (Original post)

Thu Oct 2, 2014, 12:21 AM

100. I have not read this thread.

 

Not to defend W., but he did give up golf during the wars and he did meet with the families of the deceased war dead. That is not defending Bush, but it is factual.

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Response to Jenoch (Reply #100)

Thu Oct 2, 2014, 05:27 AM

101. Partly true.

Bush gave up golf because of knee problems and "watch this drive".

And he met with some families of war dead, but mocked others and refused to see at least one who was vocally anti-war.

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Response to riqster (Reply #101)

Thu Oct 2, 2014, 07:58 PM

102. I am unaware of him mocking family

 

members of war dead. If I were him I would not have met with Cindy Sheehan either.

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Response to Jenoch (Reply #102)

Thu Oct 2, 2014, 07:59 PM

103. Read upthread for the "eBay" remark. That is mockery.

And I am sure Bush appreciates your support.

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Response to riqster (Reply #103)

Thu Oct 2, 2014, 08:05 PM

104. I'll check out that thread.

 

I am not supporting Bush, I said I was unaware of any mockery.

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