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Bush NEVER ONCE did this. (Original Post) riqster Sep 2014 OP
And ain't that the truth? CaliforniaPeggy Sep 2014 #1
Booked marked so I have this pic Lochloosa Sep 2014 #2
Recommended. (nt) NYC_SKP Sep 2014 #3
True, the corporate media even helped Bush keep the caskets off the frontpage news. Rex Sep 2014 #4
Jogging Scarsdale Oct 2014 #29
Until 2009, no media was allowed to film returning caskets. 7962 Oct 2014 #72
In 2003 the Bush WH banned media cameras from taking pictures. Rex Oct 2014 #74
Oops. Guess you were wrong. Kingofalldems Oct 2014 #75
Those good media lap dogs! Always following the rules! Rex Oct 2014 #76
No, I'm NOT wrong. It was policy long before W. 7962 Oct 2014 #79
George Bush put the ban in place in 1991. My mistake it was his DAD. Rex Oct 2014 #85
He is right, it was George Bush sr. in 1991! Rex Oct 2014 #86
Thanks rigster. sheshe2 Sep 2014 #5
Thanks, sheshe. freshwest Sep 2014 #8
That's one of the first pictures I posted here. sheshe2 Sep 2014 #10
Thanks back atcha for your post. riqster Sep 2014 #12
... sheshe2 Sep 2014 #13
Yep. It was one of the first things the new President Obama did. calimary Sep 2014 #6
Now that was well said calimary. sheshe2 Sep 2014 #11
I'll have respect for both Obama and Clinton when they address the nation on how they Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #22
Oh, puleeze! Scarsdale Oct 2014 #31
Oh nononono, Bush and Obama are exactly the same... riqster Oct 2014 #33
Yep. And that's EXACTLY the kind of thinking that's gonna lose us the Senate. calimary Oct 2014 #67
Yep. Drat that darned pony shortage, anyway... riqster Oct 2014 #70
There MUST be a pony! Under all that horse shit, there MUST be a pony! calimary Oct 2014 #73
. stonecutter357 Oct 2014 #37
No you wont...nt SidDithers Oct 2014 #95
Bush even ordered one Goldstar Mother not to sell her commemorative medal on E-bay. Octafish Sep 2014 #7
I read it as, he JOKED to her, "don't go selling it on eBay " when he handed out the commemorative BlancheSplanchnik Sep 2014 #16
Holy fucking shit! nt Guy Whitey Corngood Oct 2014 #23
Wow! That is some twisted shite even for the AWOL pretzel boy. nt adirondacker Oct 2014 #82
But, but, he's not supposed to salute if he isn't wearing a hat, pangaia Sep 2014 #9
Well, I think it is OK, polmaven Oct 2014 #36
Ah ha ! Gotcha.. pangaia Oct 2014 #39
K n R stopwastingmymoney Sep 2014 #14
I remember the coffins coming back ... CaptainTruth Sep 2014 #15
:( BlancheSplanchnik Sep 2014 #17
Nice! FlatStanley Sep 2014 #18
And why does Obama keep bombing the crap out of people? Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #21
Ignoring Bush's mess won't make it go away. baldguy Oct 2014 #32
Neither does perpetuating Bush's mess. FlatStanley Oct 2014 #44
O. would not have been chosen by the PTB if they thought he would truedelphi Oct 2014 #71
I think we choose who we want. It takes little effort to believe the lies and ignore actions. FlatStanley Oct 2014 #77
Which is plainly NOT what is happening here. baldguy Oct 2014 #84
You are correct. FlatStanley Oct 2014 #88
If you believe Obama is worse than Bush, you're not a liberal, or a Democrat. baldguy Oct 2014 #90
Before you make a complete fool of yourself with YOUR PURITY FlatStanley Oct 2014 #91
You've already made a fool of yourself with your false, baseless accusations. baldguy Oct 2014 #92
I'm just making the President "do it" like he asked me to. FlatStanley Oct 2014 #93
Predictable. You've entered crazy-assed Teabagger territory. baldguy Oct 2014 #94
That would fit in your world view, I know. FlatStanley Oct 2014 #96
Wow. Seriously?...nt SidDithers Oct 2014 #98
Seriously what? FlatStanley Oct 2014 #99
Right, supporting the Democratic President & the Democratic Party is now "drinking koolaid" on DU. baldguy Oct 2014 #105
Continuing Bush's strategy won't make it go away. Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #97
Because Chess. FlatStanley Oct 2014 #43
Because some people NEED the crap bombed out of them! 7962 Oct 2014 #80
Oh, man. Can we PLEASE have this as the picture of the day tomorrow? TrollBuster9090 Oct 2014 #19
Yes. Bush was an asshole. But Jesus Fucking Christ. Saluting the dead does not absolve Obama Luminous Animal Oct 2014 #20
. stonecutter357 Oct 2014 #38
The OP NEVER SAID IT DID. riqster Oct 2014 #42
Yes it does. It shows he cares. FlatStanley Oct 2014 #45
The phrase directly and unequivocally implying that his salute absolves him is where exactly? LanternWaste Oct 2014 #54
Bushco wanted to cover up the dead soldiers.. Pres Obama is acknowledging them and that they Cha Oct 2014 #24
We do get it. We also get that drones eases our conscience thus making perpetual war palatable. FlatStanley Oct 2014 #48
How will we pay to take care of our troops in this new war? grahamhgreen Oct 2014 #25
Good stamps. Pay attention. FlatStanley Oct 2014 #49
Oh yeah.... grahamhgreen Oct 2014 #52
I hate auto-incorrect! Or maybe my fingers are too big FlatStanley Oct 2014 #56
Gets me all the time! grahamhgreen Oct 2014 #63
Ain't that the truth! MADem Oct 2014 #26
Thanks for this! JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #27
What Bush never once did IronLionZion Oct 2014 #28
You Forgot The Tan Suit ProfessorGAC Oct 2014 #35
The best way to honor the dead RedCappedBandit Oct 2014 #30
They showed the fighting and the coffins on television for Vietnam and American's hated that war. tecelote Oct 2014 #34
Also, no draft. DeadLetterOffice Oct 2014 #64
bushieboy. jr heaven05 Oct 2014 #40
Thought you may like this 4Q2u2 Oct 2014 #57
I do like heaven05 Oct 2014 #69
Very emotional :( Lenomsky Oct 2014 #41
Good point. Kids who die for their countries get a raw deal. riqster Oct 2014 #51
I wish Obama would pull our troops out of Afghanistan and Iraq. former9thward Oct 2014 #46
One thing bothers me about the picture in the original post. JayhawkSD Oct 2014 #47
I believe the ceremony was at Dover AFB. On post. riqster Oct 2014 #50
Doesn't justify fatigues. JayhawkSD Oct 2014 #53
Exactly! ctsnowman Oct 2014 #55
And Joe Biden has never done this: Initech Oct 2014 #58
Nor did he shoot anyone in the face. riqster Oct 2014 #59
And make the other guy apologize for getting in the way of his shot. Initech Oct 2014 #61
This seems so naive. Marr Oct 2014 #60
Nope. I am a bitter, cynical old fart. riqster Oct 2014 #65
Bush was a bad CIC Gothmog Oct 2014 #62
Illegal and illegitimate for starters. Then he got worse. riqster Oct 2014 #66
Told the truth about something (including 9/11) ??? blkmusclmachine Oct 2014 #68
K&R Raffi Ella Oct 2014 #78
Actually, We Do Not Know erpowers Oct 2014 #81
There are also no pictures of the Easter Bunny or Santa Claus. riqster Oct 2014 #83
Totally Different erpowers Oct 2014 #87
Since Bush prohibited the cameras, it's his own fault if there are none. riqster Oct 2014 #89
I have not read this thread. Jenoch Oct 2014 #100
Partly true. riqster Oct 2014 #101
I am unaware of him mocking family Jenoch Oct 2014 #102
Read upthread for the "eBay" remark. That is mockery. riqster Oct 2014 #103
I'll check out that thread. Jenoch Oct 2014 #104
 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
4. True, the corporate media even helped Bush keep the caskets off the frontpage news.
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 09:54 PM
Sep 2014

Bush and Cheney are pathetic warmongers.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
29. Jogging
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 06:47 AM
Oct 2014

I was disgusted to see W jogging with young servicepeople with artificial limbs that HE was responsible for. Smirking, making sure the camera was on him. Disgusting, coward who was AWOL during his National Guard term. Now the repubs. want Jeb in the WH? Sick of the entire family, bleeding the taxpayers.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
72. Until 2009, no media was allowed to film returning caskets.
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 01:19 PM
Oct 2014

So the media were just following the rules at the time. Even now, consent of family is needed.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
74. In 2003 the Bush WH banned media cameras from taking pictures.
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 01:45 PM
Oct 2014

They did their best to hide the bodies coming home.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
79. No, I'm NOT wrong. It was policy long before W.
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 04:36 PM
Oct 2014

From 2009: "The Pentagon this year lifted its 18-year ban on the news media covering the return of U.S. service members killed in action, as long as the family consents to the coverage."
"Many mistakenly believe that it was President George W. Bush who enacted the ban."
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=7265545

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
86. He is right, it was George Bush sr. in 1991!
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 07:53 PM
Oct 2014

Those fucking scumbag GOPukers...they always disrespect our war dead.

sheshe2

(84,131 posts)
5. Thanks rigster.
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 10:02 PM
Sep 2014

And here in one image, two people maligned endlessly. Hillary and Obama honoring the dead.





President Obama's full statement:

The United States has an unwavering commitment to bring to justice those responsible for harming Americans. Since the deadly attacks on our facilities in Benghazi, I have made it a priority to find and bring to justice those responsible for the deaths of four brave Americans. I recently authorized an operation in Libya to detain an individual charged for his role in these attacks, Ahmed Abu Khatallah. The fact that he is now in U.S. custody is a testament to the painstaking efforts of our military, law enforcement, and intelligence personnel. Because of their courage and professionalism, this individual will now face the full weight of the American justice system.

Even as we welcome the success of this operation, we also pause to remember the four Americans who gave their lives in Benghazi representing their country: Ambassador Chris Stevens, Sean Smith, Tyrone Woods, and Glen Doherty. As I said shortly after the attack, they exemplified the values that we stand for as a nation, including a commitment to freedom and justice. All Americans should be grateful for their service, just as we are grateful to all our personnel – civilian and military – who represent our country around the globe. We will continue to honor our fallen by carrying on their efforts in support of the Libyan people’s aspirations to live in a peaceful, prosperous, and democratic society.

With this operation, the United States has once again demonstrated that we will do whatever it takes to see that justice is done when people harm Americans. We will continue our efforts to bring to justice those who were responsible for the Benghazi attacks. We will remain vigilant against all acts of terrorism, and we will continue to prioritize the protection of our service-members and civilians overseas. We will also sustain our support for the Libyan people, as they work to overcome years of tyranny and do the difficult work of building a democracy.


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/06/17/1307630/-Benghazi-suspect-captured-now-in-U-S-custody#

sheshe2

(84,131 posts)
10. That's one of the first pictures I posted here.
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 10:20 PM
Sep 2014

Or tried to. I could not figure out how to do it, someone posted it for me and told me how to make it so.

freashwest.

calimary

(81,632 posts)
6. Yep. It was one of the first things the new President Obama did.
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 10:08 PM
Sep 2014

He passed the "Dover test." As in - going to Dover AFB when the flag-draped coffins of the latest war dead returned to American soil. To greet them as their Commander-in-Chief, and show a visible thank-you with his solemn presence, for their service and their ultimate sacrifice. chickenhawk bushie boy couldn't be seen doing this. GOD FORBID! Might actually remind America that our precious young ones were being fed into the bush/cheney/blackwater/halliburton meat grinder over there. They didn't want to trouble our "beautiful minds" about that icky stuff. What you don't know won't hurt us, America, you gullible chumps! Outta sight, outta mind, dontchaknow.

sheshe2

(84,131 posts)
11. Now that was well said calimary.
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 10:26 PM
Sep 2014

Brava.







Photos of the Week (09/16/12) - GreendaleNOW
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, in Benghazi, Libya, on Sept. 13. The American ambassador to Libya and three other Americans were killed when a mob of protesters and gunmen overwhelmed the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, setting fire to

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
22. I'll have respect for both Obama and Clinton when they address the nation on how they
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 12:39 AM
Oct 2014

advised their own children to put their boots on the ground.

Nope. That would never happen. Dead children for empire is for poor people. The rich, like Clinton and Obama, experience photo ops.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
31. Oh, puleeze!
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 06:55 AM
Oct 2014

W went AWOL during his "service" His Daddy arranged a cushy assignment, and W was not capable of fulfilling it! Daddy also bought him slots at Harvard and Yale, that W was too ignorant to appreciate. Where were Cheney's kids? spending daddy's hard earned $$$$ from blood money of Halliburton. What about Romney's sons? Oh, right, according to Mittens they served the country by trying to help their Daddy get elected President. Trying to "fix" the ballots, but it did not work. We elected a man with BRAINS for a change.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
33. Oh nononono, Bush and Obama are exactly the same...
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 07:02 AM
Oct 2014

According to some people around here, anyway. Eedjits.

Thanks for your post.

calimary

(81,632 posts)
73. There MUST be a pony! Under all that horse shit, there MUST be a pony!
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 01:21 PM
Oct 2014

If I just hold out and keep looking...

Never mind that my old skateboard's still over there, scuffed up and a little dirty, and can get me easily to any candy store in the neighborhood in minutes. But I'd rather stay home and sift through all this horse shit! Cuz I just KNOW there must be a pony in there somewhere! And I just won't settle for ANYTHING BUT THAT DAMN PONY!!!!!!!!

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
16. I read it as, he JOKED to her, "don't go selling it on eBay " when he handed out the commemorative
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 11:17 PM
Sep 2014

She had asked him earlier how the mission could have gone down as it did, why she lost her son.

And he made that "joke" at her later. UNBELIEVABLE! That is prime psychopath behavior, right there. Beyond heartless.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
9. But, but, he's not supposed to salute if he isn't wearing a hat,
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 10:17 PM
Sep 2014

is he? Plus he is not 'military," is he?

CaptainTruth

(6,626 posts)
15. I remember the coffins coming back ...
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 11:12 PM
Sep 2014

Seemed like it was always in the middle of the night, Bush's attempt to hide the results of his evil deeds in the darkness. There was one picture that got out, rows of coffins, covered in flags, in the belly of a massive airplane. Every one a life cut short, a lifetime of joy & love & infinite experiences ... taken ... all for a lie. I hung that picture on my wall so I could see it every day. Every American should have had that picture on their wall. That was the price we were paying ... & Bush wanted to keep it hidden.

I wanted to know more about that price, to not just see it in pictures, but to feel it, real, in front of me. So when a local serviceman was killed in Iraq, I went to his funeral. I didn't know him or anyone else there, but I knew what he represented. I saw his flag-covered coffin. His wife will always have a neatly-folded flag, but she will never again have him ... the love of her life. I saw the sadness & loss ... & I felt it. I felt it far more than Bush ever did.

Every American should attend a military funeral. It is a very humbling experience ... & it can make you think differently about the true cost of war.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
71. O. would not have been chosen by the PTB if they thought he would
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 01:06 PM
Oct 2014

Go down a different path.

It is a shame that so many in the Democratic Party thought (and think) that they chose him.

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
84. Which is plainly NOT what is happening here.
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 07:35 PM
Oct 2014

And if you believe it is, then you're a RW tool.

Just ask yourself, who benefits when liberals attack the sitting Democratic President, or simply spread lies such as the one in your post? Democrats? Don't be absurd. Liberals? How has that worked out for you so far, huh?

The only people your attacks, falsehoods & lies help are RW Republicans. And you don't even get a "thank you".

 

FlatStanley

(327 posts)
88. You are correct.
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 08:19 PM
Oct 2014

Bush negotiated all troops out of Iraq. Obama is leaving troops in Afghanistan for another ten years.

Bush hardly used drones. Obama uses the drone as his go to response.

Bush instituted 100 percent of Bush tax cuts. Obama only kept 82 percent in place.

Are there some things Obama did that Bush didn't do? Sure.

Bush never said he would close Gitmo. Obama said he would.

Bush never said his wars would take years. Obama said his would take years.

Bush didn't vigorously pursue whistle blowers. Obama has tried more whistler blowers than all other Presidents combined.

If these are your values, you are no Democrat. You just vote for the D.

Now ask yourself. Who benefits when Democrats vote for any D on the ballot, regardless of actual policy?

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
90. If you believe Obama is worse than Bush, you're not a liberal, or a Democrat.
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 08:55 PM
Oct 2014

You're a RW tool. I hope that paycheck you got from Karl Rove was worth it.

What's that you say? You don't get paid by Karl Rove, or any other subversive RW trolls? I guess you're doing their work for free then, huh?

 

FlatStanley

(327 posts)
91. Before you make a complete fool of yourself with YOUR PURITY
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 09:39 PM
Oct 2014

You should know I voted for President Obama in 2008. I convinced my mother to vote for candidate Obama during the primaries even though I suspected this was my mother's best chance to vote for a viable female candidate. I also took my son to an Obama rally where went three hours early to get good seats. My son was fourteen at the time. I also told my daughter how lucky she was that her first presidential vote would be historic.

Now, fast forward to 2012. President Obama still received my daughter's vote and my son was ecstatic that his first vote would be for an historic President.

I, on the other hand, think actions count. So I looked at what the President did, not at what he said. And I found him wanting.

Do I think President Obama is worse than President Bush? I'll answer it like this. Like President Ford, President Obama let a criminal go unpunished. His failure to prosecute for war crimes, and to continue the Unitary Executive, and the perpetual war through false fear of faux terrorists has resulted in the codification of the aberration that was President Bush.

We may never recover. For that reason only I find President Obama worse than President Bush just as I found President Ford worse than President Nixon.

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
92. You've already made a fool of yourself with your false, baseless accusations.
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 09:47 PM
Oct 2014

If we never recover from the Bush disaster, it'll only be because people like you are more interested in phoney political purity than real progress, and are happy using RW attacks to bring down the Democrats like Obama who are tasked with the responsibility of leading the recovery.

 

FlatStanley

(327 posts)
93. I'm just making the President "do it" like he asked me to.
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 09:52 PM
Oct 2014

And if you don't draw the line at war crimes, well, I don't know how low your team can go. But your team is not the Democratic Party. Your team is the one with the D next to the politician's name, regardless of policy. And if President Bush had had a D next to his name, you would have voted for him too.

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
94. Predictable. You've entered crazy-assed Teabagger territory.
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 10:08 PM
Oct 2014

Trying to redefine reality to suit your needs. Unfortunately for you, reality doesn't work that way.

You're probably a fan of that lying sack of shit Greenwald, too, aren't you.

 

FlatStanley

(327 posts)
96. That would fit in your world view, I know.
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 10:43 PM
Oct 2014

I read Greenwald's work as well as others and draw my own conclusions. Living in the county whose Congressional Representative was murdered in Jonestown, I'm not a big fan of koolaid. I don't drink it.

But I do look forward to your unwavering support of boots on the ground in 2015.

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
105. Right, supporting the Democratic President & the Democratic Party is now "drinking koolaid" on DU.
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 08:49 PM
Oct 2014

This is Teabagger territory.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
80. Because some people NEED the crap bombed out of them!
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 04:39 PM
Oct 2014

Obama sees a LOT more of whats going on in the world than we do.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
20. Yes. Bush was an asshole. But Jesus Fucking Christ. Saluting the dead does not absolve Obama
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 12:29 AM
Oct 2014

from continuing our endless wars.

 

FlatStanley

(327 posts)
45. Yes it does. It shows he cares.
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 10:28 AM
Oct 2014

And it promotes drone usage, so that only other people die. It's what make us the the home of the brave.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
54. The phrase directly and unequivocally implying that his salute absolves him is where exactly?
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 10:42 AM
Oct 2014

The phrase directly and unequivocally implying that his salute absolves him is where exactly?

Or was your own implication stated as such to merely to add melodrama to a potion which consists of little else...?

Cha

(298,252 posts)
24. Bushco wanted to cover up the dead soldiers.. Pres Obama is acknowledging them and that they
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 01:18 AM
Oct 2014

are honored.

Obviously some don't get that.

thanks riqster

tecelote

(5,122 posts)
34. They showed the fighting and the coffins on television for Vietnam and American's hated that war.
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 07:08 AM
Oct 2014

Now, it's all whitewashed with "Boots on the Ground" and "Collateral Damage".

Americans seem to be fine with endless war as long as it is packaged correctly.

DeadLetterOffice

(1,352 posts)
64. Also, no draft.
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 11:24 AM
Oct 2014

The "all volunteer military" makes it easier for some people to stomach the relentless military interventions.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
40. bushieboy. jr
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 08:54 AM
Oct 2014

is/was a spoiled little rich kid who was also an awol coward. Drunk, high and partying while myself and hundreds of thousands more visited the war of my generation. I have nothing but disdain for that waste of human flesh/user of oxygen. Romtwit, darth and many other 'leaders' are that in name only. No respect here, NONE. I do respect a commander-in-chief that acknowledges our honored dead, WITH A SALUTE. And that C-17 landing late at night, during king georges reign, with all those flag draped coffins in it sealed it for me. Bush was trying to hide his evil.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
69. I do like
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 12:39 PM
Oct 2014

thanks. Not surprised though, a politician, is a politician, is a politician.........ad infinitum....

Lenomsky

(340 posts)
41. Very emotional :(
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 10:23 AM
Oct 2014

Normally things like this don't affect me but this did .. maybe because I really respect Obama and have empathy for anybody that's passed especially young people that never got much time.

former9thward

(32,192 posts)
46. I wish Obama would pull our troops out of Afghanistan and Iraq.
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 10:29 AM
Oct 2014

That way no one would have to greet coffins.

 

JayhawkSD

(3,163 posts)
47. One thing bothers me about the picture in the original post.
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 10:30 AM
Oct 2014

A fallen soldier is coming home carried by and being met by his brothers in arms who are wearing fatigue uniforms. To me that is a gesture of disrespect, although it seems the modern military does not regard "undress" uniforms the same way that we did when I served.

We were not allowed off base in anything other than "Class A" dress uniform, squared away and looking professional. We were proud to serve and wore the uniform with respect. We would never slouch around in public spaces in dungarees, or in dress uniform hatless. Today one almost never sees a service person wearing anything other than fatigue uniform, and half the time they do not bother with a hat. I don't know how that affects most people, but it certainly reduces my respect for them. They look like bums who have no respect for their service.

 

JayhawkSD

(3,163 posts)
53. Doesn't justify fatigues.
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 10:42 AM
Oct 2014

The ceremony itself, the import of the monemt in which a fallen soldier is returning home, and the presence of the President of The United States of America, absolutely demand Class A uniform.

In my day, a formation being reviewed by the captain of the ship required Class A's, and a review by the Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces certainly would. The idea that President Eisenhower would see us in fatigues would make our Captain faint.

Yes, sadly, I am that old, but I also served under Kennedy.

Initech

(100,166 posts)
61. And make the other guy apologize for getting in the way of his shot.
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 11:01 AM
Oct 2014

I still can't get over the balls that it takes to shoot a guy in the face and have him say "my bad".

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
60. This seems so naive.
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 10:59 AM
Oct 2014

I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but this is a national politician managing his public image and selling policy. These politicians you adore don't love you back, and they don't cry for dead soldiers. Obama is stylistically different from Bush here-- but the person in the box is still dead.

It's odd to me how so many of the people who accuse the left of being emotional and irrational have such a childish view of political reality themselves, apparently seeing the whole thing as something like a professional wrestling match between good guys and bad guys.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
65. Nope. I am a bitter, cynical old fart.
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 11:26 AM
Oct 2014

This is a tool to use against Wingnuts, using facts to counter lies via a visual presentation.

It won't change anyone's mind on either side: but it can impact those in the middle.

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
81. Actually, We Do Not Know
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 04:43 PM
Oct 2014

Considering there were no cameras there, we do not know what President Bush did, or did not do. He did not go to most funerals, but I do think President Bush met with families of the fallen. So it is very possible that he went to Dover and met the caskets of fallen soldiers.

Before you question whether or not I am a Bush bot, or a troll, I am not a Bush fan. I just know there were not photos taken at that time.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
83. There are also no pictures of the Easter Bunny or Santa Claus.
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 06:41 PM
Oct 2014

The lack of photos in those cases is not taken as an indicator of possible existence.

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
87. Totally Different
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 07:56 PM
Oct 2014

Those are two totally different issues and ideas. Everyone, except small children, know the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus are not real. We know they are not real because know they are characters from folk lore and storybooks. On the other hand, we know President Bush was real, Dover is/was real, real caskets were sent back to America. It is very possible that President Bush, on at least one occasion, greeted a returning casket. I do not think people should claim he did not greet the caskets when photos were not allowed during that time.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
100. I have not read this thread.
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 12:21 AM
Oct 2014

Not to defend W., but he did give up golf during the wars and he did meet with the families of the deceased war dead. That is not defending Bush, but it is factual.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
101. Partly true.
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 05:27 AM
Oct 2014

Bush gave up golf because of knee problems and "watch this drive".

And he met with some families of war dead, but mocked others and refused to see at least one who was vocally anti-war.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
102. I am unaware of him mocking family
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 07:58 PM
Oct 2014

members of war dead. If I were him I would not have met with Cindy Sheehan either.

riqster

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103. Read upthread for the "eBay" remark. That is mockery.
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 07:59 PM
Oct 2014

And I am sure Bush appreciates your support.

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