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Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 03:01 AM Oct 2014

Ginsburg Was Right: Hobby Lobby ruling now opening the door for religious to claim extra privileges

On Hobby Lobby, Ginsburg Was Right

The great Oliver Wendell Holmes once observed that important Supreme Court decisions “exercise a kind of hydraulic effect.” Even if the authors of such decisions assert that their rulings will have limited impact, these cases invariably have a profound influence. So it has been with Burwell v. Hobby Lobby Stores, Inc., which is less than six months old.

In Hobby Lobby, a narrow five-to-four majority of the Court held that the Religious Freedom Restoration Act of 1993 gave the proprietors of a chain of retail craft stores the right to exempt themselves from certain provisions of the Affordable Care Act. Specifically, the A.C.A. requires firms with more than fifty employees to provide insurance that includes birth-control coverage, or else pay a fine. There was an exemption already for religious institutions. Hobby Lobby, a closely held corporation, is a secular, for-profit business, but the Court held that because the owners of Hobby Lobby held a sincere religious belief that certain forms of birth control caused abortions, they could deny employer-paid insurance coverage for them. Justice Samuel Alito insisted, in his opinion for the Court, that his decision would be very limited in its effect. Responding to the dissenting opinion by Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, who called it “a decision of startling breadth,” Alito wrote, “Our holding is very specific. We do not hold, as the principal dissent alleges, that for-profit corporations and other commercial enterprises can ‘opt out of any law (saving only tax laws) they judge incompatible with their sincerely held religious beliefs.’ ” Ginsburg, though, wondered where the guidance was for the lower courts when faced with similar claims from employers with religiously grounded objections to blood transfusions (Jehovah’s Witnesses); antidepressants (Scientologists); medications derived from pigs, including anesthesia, intravenous fluids, and pills coated with gelatin (certain Muslims, Jews, and Hindus); and vaccinations (Christian Scientists, among others).

The exchange between the two Justices gets to the heart of the issue in Hobby Lobby. When do religious convictions allow individuals (or corporations) to excuse themselves from obligations that are binding on everyone else?

A sampling of court actions since Hobby Lobby suggests that Ginsburg has the better of the argument. She was right: the decision is opening the door for the religiously observant to claim privileges that are not available to anyone else.


Read more: http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/hobby-lobbys-troubling-aftermath

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Ginsburg Was Right: Hobby Lobby ruling now opening the door for religious to claim extra privileges (Original Post) Cali_Democrat Oct 2014 OP
No surprise here marym625 Oct 2014 #1
Citizens United and Hobby Lobby MattBaggins Oct 2014 #2
And Scalia. . . ProfessorGAC Oct 2014 #10
What enragesme most about the Hobby Lobby decision SheilaT Oct 2014 #3
Exactly right. nt Cali_Democrat Oct 2014 #4
PLUS ONE, a huge bunch! Enthusiast Oct 2014 #6
To this court rich corporate owner rights will always trump individual rights. Kablooie Oct 2014 #15
This BrotherIvan Oct 2014 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author AZ Progressive Oct 2014 #5
Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Oct 2014 #7
But....but... "Hobby Lobby was no big deal!" MADem Oct 2014 #8
Hell, I read that reaction from some right here on DU theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #11
Yeah, who knew Charlie "Sweetheart" Baker of the GOP was a DU member!!! nt MADem Oct 2014 #12
dont buy their products or services underthematrix Oct 2014 #9
In my mind ...all of the justices understand this to be true etherealtruth Oct 2014 #13
K & R !!! WillyT Oct 2014 #14

MattBaggins

(7,904 posts)
2. Citizens United and Hobby Lobby
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 03:19 AM
Oct 2014

Justice Roberts will most likely go down in history as one of the dumbest Chief Justices.

ProfessorGAC

(65,013 posts)
10. And Scalia. . .
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 06:15 AM
Oct 2014

. . .will go down as THE dumbest jurist. He'd be a slam dunk except Thomas is there too. Might end up being a tie.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
3. What enragesme most about the Hobby Lobby decision
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 03:34 AM
Oct 2014

is that no matter how they parse it, the religious beliefs of the owners are simply not being violated, because they are not themselves being obligated to use birth control. What they personally want to do, or not do, relating to their reproduction, is not really at stake. What is at stake is allowing their employees to exercise THEIR own beliefs and control of their bodies. What the owners of the corporation believe should NEVER be at issue.

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MADem

(135,425 posts)
8. But....but... "Hobby Lobby was no big deal!"
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 05:00 AM
Oct 2014

I heard it from that "liberal" Republican sexist asshole running for governor of MA on the GOP ticket!

Wish I was kidding....

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
13. In my mind ...all of the justices understand this to be true
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 09:23 AM
Oct 2014

ruling was designed this way.

The only difference is that Ginsberg and those that voted with her were honest with the American public about the far reaching implications of The the ruling.

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