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Would your feelings about Ebola entering the US be different (Original Post) Puzzledtraveller Oct 2014 OP
Nope. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2014 #1
Thanks for your reply Puzzledtraveller Oct 2014 #3
I'm not sure what's partisan about some guy getting off a plane with Ebola Renew Deal Oct 2014 #5
Absolutely Puzzledtraveller Oct 2014 #8
Nope JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #2
No. n/t Aerows Oct 2014 #4
Nope Kalidurga Oct 2014 #6
No. LostInAnomie Oct 2014 #7
I agree Puzzledtraveller Oct 2014 #11
A lot of pseudo-intellectuals get off on thinking they are smarter... LostInAnomie Oct 2014 #14
^^^^ THIS kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #22
It's not that I don't take the deadliness of the virus seriously Marrah_G Oct 2014 #19
I'd be more worried. Republicans don't believe in public services. kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #9
Well yes, there is THAT point :) Marrah_G Oct 2014 #20
Yes, I have no confidence in Republicans to contain outbreaks. JaneyVee Oct 2014 #10
That is a good point, a different side to the equation. Puzzledtraveller Oct 2014 #12
yes, their solution would be to close the mexican border, build a wall etc JI7 Oct 2014 #13
I had not thought of that aspect. Marrah_G Oct 2014 #21
Probably not. AverageJoe90 Oct 2014 #15
Heck that CDC job would be headed by Michael Brown or similar character. Dont call me Shirley Oct 2014 #26
Of course not. It's independently scary. nt valerief Oct 2014 #16
That it is Puzzledtraveller Oct 2014 #23
I also think if it spreads in the U.S. it's a tool white supremacists can use against "the black valerief Oct 2014 #25
No Marrah_G Oct 2014 #17
No. eom MohRokTah Oct 2014 #18
No. 840high Oct 2014 #24
Yes. It would be panic. Gops only fill positions with political hacks, not anyone who knows anything Dont call me Shirley Oct 2014 #27
No. It's not a partisan issue. SheilaT Oct 2014 #28
Bush may be responsible for a lot of things MFM008 Oct 2014 #29
Maybe Poppy Bush, Lol. Puzzledtraveller Oct 2014 #30
Of course not. Blue_In_AK Oct 2014 #31
Only if they ignored it like Reagan ignored AIDS Warpy Oct 2014 #32

Puzzledtraveller

(5,937 posts)
3. Thanks for your reply
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 08:59 PM
Oct 2014

I'm really trying to get a feel for peoples reactions to the news reports and want to rules out, or at least see if there was any partisanship involved in how people are reacting to news reports. This is part of a conversation I was having with co-workers today also.

Renew Deal

(81,859 posts)
5. I'm not sure what's partisan about some guy getting off a plane with Ebola
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 09:00 PM
Oct 2014

The govt can't really control that.

Puzzledtraveller

(5,937 posts)
11. I agree
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 09:07 PM
Oct 2014

I am just trying to figure out what motivates those that believe it's just hype and want to down play it, here and elsewhere. I'm not sure myself what I believe. I at one point believed it was just hype, and more am leaning to it being a very real credible threat. I posed the question the way I did to maybe draw out some responses that may explain why some say it's hysterics and the threat is minimal.

LostInAnomie

(14,428 posts)
14. A lot of pseudo-intellectuals get off on thinking they are smarter...
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 09:13 PM
Oct 2014

... then the average person. As of now, the chances of them contracting ebola are incredibly slim. So, they can act smug and superior whenever someone shows concern about public safety.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
19. It's not that I don't take the deadliness of the virus seriously
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 09:28 PM
Oct 2014

I've done a lot of reading over the last 5 years on the topic of viruses- everything I can get my hands on (books, documentaries, biology web sites and papers). I was trying to understand the death of a friend in Germany who died from swine flu. Heck I even fall asleep to audiobooks on the topic. (edit to add: I am well aware that I am weird ~grin~) There is a difference between downplaying and dispelling misinformation being spread about through fear, ignorance and tv news ratings.

My reaction would not be different if it were a republican president, because having a republican president would not change the facts or science behind it.

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
10. Yes, I have no confidence in Republicans to contain outbreaks.
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 09:05 PM
Oct 2014

They're anti-science, anti-healthcare, and half of them aren't even vaccinated.

Also, they ignored 9/11 warnings, blew a surplus, and let a global financial collapse they created to happen on their watch.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
15. Probably not.
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 09:13 PM
Oct 2014

TBH, I don't think the CDC would've had any chance to stop this, regardless of whether Obama or a Repub was in office; once Duncan got past the airport security in Liberia, there wasn't much anyone could do.

Puzzledtraveller

(5,937 posts)
23. That it is
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 11:17 PM
Oct 2014

though I admit that earlier when all this started I was thinking it was mostly hype and scare tactics. I have come to believe that it is a credible and serious threat.

valerief

(53,235 posts)
25. I also think if it spreads in the U.S. it's a tool white supremacists can use against "the black
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 11:20 PM
Oct 2014

man" since ebola came from Africa.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
28. No. It's not a partisan issue.
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 11:52 PM
Oct 2014

It's also very facile of people here to pontificate on how that guy shouldn't have been allowed on the plane. First of all, he didn't have any symptoms, so unless all air traffic from Africa is embargoed, it was just a matter of time before someone got here with it.

The CDC has been saying for a couple of decades now that no place on the planet is more than 24 hours from any other place, thanks to air travel. They've been saying that it's inevitable that someday some very deadly disease will spread far and wide because of that air travel.

Despite all the snark in other threads here on DU, Ebola is still NOT easy to catch. It is NOT an airborne virus. Yes, that could conceivably change, but such changes are rare and so not very likely in this case.

It's the incubation period that is just long enough to make the spread somewhat easy and inevitable. People are not symptomatic for anywhere from two to twenty-one days. Fortunately they are not contagious when not symptomatic, because if they were contagious before symptoms appeared, well then God help us all.

I will recommend that everyone here read everything they can by Laurie Garrett. You could start with The Coming Plague, about emerging diseases, including Ebola. It came out in 1994 but does not feel at all dated. Then there's Betrayal of Trust which is about the systematic gutting of public health everywhere, including in this country. That came out in 2000.

Read them before making too many more comments.

Warpy

(111,256 posts)
32. Only if they ignored it like Reagan ignored AIDS
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 02:36 AM
Oct 2014

and as long as it's killing more black folks than white folks, they're likely to.

Reagan delayed the kind of R&D funding that could have taken care of AIDS for about 5 years. Now it's a chronic, progressive illness that joins a lot of other pain in the ass, chronic, progressive illnesses. Take care of them and have a lot of good time left.

It's a VIRUS. As long as research money is made available to discover ways to treat it, it will be less transmissible and more survivable.


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