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ariesgem

(1,634 posts)
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 03:05 PM Oct 2014

Teacher fired for defending student against bullies

An Arizona teacher was fired after she stood up to bullies who were tormenting a fourth grade student, calling him the n-word and using other derogatory language. Pam Aister was removed from her classroom at Four Peaks Elementary School after 24 years in the classroom.

The veteran teacher was defending nine-year-old Malachi Gillis from a group of boys who were calling Gillis “monkey” and “crackhead” and telling him “you belong in a zoo.” Aister told ABC she stepped in and told the bullies, “If you pick on him, you’re picking on me.”

However, the bullies told their parents Aister told them to “shut up” and told one he had an “ugly face.” Parents of the bullies reported what they were told to the district, and on Monday Fountain Hills Unified School District officials voted 4-1 to terminate Aister.

“That makes me beyond mad because why is she being fired for something she is supposed to do?” Jennifer Gillis, Malachi’s mother said. “She’s supposed to be standing up for the students.”

Gillis’ family told CBS the abuse was so bad Malachi transferred to a different school. “They didn’t like it, so it turned into her threatening the kids because she stood up for this one black child in her class,” said Jennifer.

http://thegrio.com/2014/10/03/teacher-fired-defending-student-bullies/

There's a petition going on to have her reinstated here:

https://www.change.org/p/fountain-hills-unified-school-district-board-overturn-decision-to-fire-pam-aister


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Teacher fired for defending student against bullies (Original Post) ariesgem Oct 2014 OP
But if she joined in on picking on the kid with the bullies, she would still have her job. chrisa Oct 2014 #1
Shut up yeoman6987 Oct 2014 #2
If she even said it. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #4
^^That. Orrex Oct 2014 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author chrisa Oct 2014 #6
Maybe that's part of the problem. We let kids have too much control. chrisa Oct 2014 #8
Seriously? Drahthaardogs Oct 2014 #11
Like parent like child. jwirr Oct 2014 #3
They deserved to be told to shut up gollygee Oct 2014 #5
SO manyl levels of BS in that school district,,,,, benld74 Oct 2014 #9
There has to be more to this story. cigsandcoffee Oct 2014 #10
I was thinking the same thing. NaturalHigh Oct 2014 #13
SOP in public schools: Bullies are in charge. Eleanors38 Oct 2014 #12

chrisa

(4,524 posts)
1. But if she joined in on picking on the kid with the bullies, she would still have her job.
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 03:08 PM
Oct 2014

Bullies are overwhelmingly favored and coddled in schools. Those "special little snowflakes" are immune to consequences. Usually their parents are assholes too.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
2. Shut up
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 03:14 PM
Oct 2014

By teachers is prohibited in most schools now. However I think a discussion with the teacher on different tactics may have been more adventageous then firing her. I wonder how the union will view this.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
4. If she even said it.
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 03:21 PM
Oct 2014

I wouldn't be surprised to find out that the bullies got together and coordinated a story to tell their parents specifically to get the teacher in trouble. It's gotten to the point where I would think teachers might welcome video and audio surveillance in classrooms to show what really goes on, as opposed to what is said to have happened.

Response to yeoman6987 (Reply #2)

chrisa

(4,524 posts)
8. Maybe that's part of the problem. We let kids have too much control.
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 03:30 PM
Oct 2014

Why can't a teacher say "shut up?" A special little snowflake's feelings will be hurt? Teachers have it bad enough - overly sensitive parents make it much worse. No wonder their kids have such behavior problems.

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
11. Seriously?
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 04:48 PM
Oct 2014

The kids are saying "shit" and "fuck" and everything under the sun but a teacher cannot tell them to shut up? They listen to music that makes me blush.

My principal in 4th grade would not have had "discussions" with the teacher. He would have paddled the bullies's rear end and made them sit inside for a recess. If the parents came to grief him, he would likely have paddled them too.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
5. They deserved to be told to shut up
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 03:25 PM
Oct 2014

Also, when she said, "Shut up" it might very well have been part of, "You all need to shut up with the insults." And she might very well have said their behavior was ugly or something, rather than that someone had an "ugly face." Kids don't always remember everything exactly how it happened.

I side with the teacher here.

cigsandcoffee

(2,300 posts)
10. There has to be more to this story.
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 03:56 PM
Oct 2014

I find it hard to believe they'd fire a 24-year teacher over something like this, where nothing can be really substantiated.

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
13. I was thinking the same thing.
Sat Oct 4, 2014, 07:43 AM
Oct 2014

This whole situation seems screwed up, but there has to be more to this. As for the little bullies, yes they need to shut up and learn to be decent human beings. Their parents should be ashamed of the way their kids acted.

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