timeline question re: Duncan and ebola

[Sheepshank]

Has it been announced anywhere, when Duncan purchased his airline tickets to the USA? Was it well before or after he helped his landlord's sick daughter (who sebsequently died)"?

[seabeyond]

1. he quit the job after. i have not heard when he bought the ticket. nt

[alcibiades_mystery]

2. Where'd you hear that?

NY Time has him quitting his job in "early September" after he had received a travel visa to the US. He was exposed on or around September 15, and flew out September 19. I read "early September" as pre-September 15 - that is, BEFORE he was exposed, not after. Where did you hear that he quit the job after September 15?

Certainly, he had applied for and received a travel visa before September 15, no?

[seabeyond]

5. one of the family members talking. and.... i wont stand by it. the story was and is developing.

you can well be correct

[herding cats]

13. His employer said he quit his job on Sept 4th.

According to the NYT.

Edit: oops, I meant to reply to seabeyond. My apologies!

[seabeyond]

14. i was going to go look up this article. thank you. i will read now. nt

[herding cats]

15. You're welcome.

I'm sorry I posted in the wrong spot.

[seabeyond]

16. meh. it worked herding cats. nt

[Sheepshank]

3. Could be he thought he may have caught the deadly virus and was coming here in anticipation?

or is my tin foil hat on too tight?

[seabeyond]

4. i think he absolutely knew the possibility was there, and he came here cause he could

he had family. could get in the country and if needed, be treated.

[alcibiades_mystery]

7. It's deeply unlikely that he applied for and received a travel visa between being exposed and

getting on the plane.

As I gather it from the New York Times, the trip was long planned, and he had received his travel clearances (i.e., a travel visa) in early September, at which point he quit his job. That is, he quit his job well before being exposed, and already had travel arrangements (or at least the visa) in place. He may have already had the ticket, which seems to have been purchased for him by his relative(s) here in the US.

[seabeyond]

12. i would liek to see the article. thank you for the info. i will go explore. nt

[misterhighwasted]

9. Agree. A few days ago the sister in N Carolina said they were angry to hear there was no more drug

available, the drug that cured the two Drs in Omaha & Atlanta.
I believe he came here with that hope in mind & his sister relied on the drug to be here to save his life.

It was not.

I do not believe that he didn't know he had been exposed to EBOLA. He knew very well, first hand, what a devastating course it takes on the body. He lived there. He's not uneducated, & he was untruthful on his Liberian Travel form.

Guess that part of the story is all a moot point now.
Its up to Texas Health Dept & our government to finally take this serious & make its containment & treatment an absolute priority.

I have my doubts about the last sentence, however.

[seabeyond]

11. personally. i see it as a good learning experience and allows a lot of agencies to better see

absolute rules that need ot immediately be implemented. i think this was an eye opener. and until the first case, there was no way, to truly see all the possible room for error. i expect we will continue to tweek it from here, not walking it perfectly. but. i believe that they did contain the first case, withing the period before others could become contagious and that is a good thing. we will see.

[morningfog]

17. If he came here seeking treatment, it seems he would have been screaming EBOLA as soon as he showed

symptoms. Still not sure why he wasn't screaming it at the first visit. He had to have known.

[seabeyond]

19. i think he and sister felt, per her saying she said liberia twice... that just mentioning

the countries name would be enough.

yes. he should have walked in and said. was with a dying girl, with ebola sept 15. they seemed to not want to share the info. but allow the medical team to put fever, liberia.... OMG, ebola, together.

finally a son? or someone flat out called cdc and said.... ebola.

so yes. why did they not walk into that hospital and yell.... ebola.

[alcibiades_mystery]

8. Unlikely...it take weeks at a minimum to get a travel visa from Liberia to the US

He was exposed on September 15 and left on September 19.

According to the NY Times, he already had his travel visa in early September.

[JimDandy]

24. His sister flew from the U.S. to Monrovia a few weeks

before he disappeared from his job and he met with her. Perhaps the family was trying to convince him to get out of Liberia before things became worse.

His employer said he didn't resign or give any notice to FedEx. He simply didn't show up for work on 2(?) Sep and the next time his employer heard anything about what had happened to him, it was on the news.

[uppityperson]

6. It takes weeks to months to get a visa, online says expect at least 6 weeks. No idea on ticket

[Sheepshank]

10. yes..tickets are independently purchased from visas

Regardless of his intent to visit the USA at some time (hence the need to apply for a Visa), I wonder if the purchase of the ticket and the travel date, came as a direct result of his concern for exposure.

[herding cats]

21. I know I've read someplace he purchased the tickets on Sept 2 from a travel agency.

I just can't recall where it was now. It was when his travel itinerary was released.

[GusBob]

18. what was the date of when he helped her? thats my?

I heard he quit his job on 9/4

[herding cats]

20. Sept. 15

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/10/01/us/retracing-the-steps-of-the-dallas-ebola-patient.html

[GusBob]

22. thanks herder of cats

For the info. One thing: I read they didn't know the young gal had Ebola they thought she was having a complication from pregnancy. Also they don't know how she contracted it

[herding cats]

23. I've read that as well.

Initially it was thought she was having complications with her pregnancy. This is what the taxi driver was told that night by the family of the girl Mr Duncan was helping, and doesn't seem unreasonable to assume it was what he was also told. If he survives he'll be able to confirm or deny what he knew about her condition. Sadly, I read on ABC news website today where his nephew says he's too sick to even speak with them on the phone anymore.