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uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
Sat Oct 4, 2014, 12:18 AM Oct 2014

Can you catch Ebola from an infected blanket?

The article has more information, presented in an easy to read manner.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2014/10/03/can-you-catch-ebola-from-an-infected-blanket/

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The Ebola virus is highly infectious but not very transmissible. That may sound to a lay person’s ear like a contradiction. What this means is that very little virus – in animal experiments, as few as 10 virus particles (virions) – can potentially lead to a fatal infection. That’s the “infectious” part of the equation.

But it’s not easy for that virus to be transmitted. Ebola is much less contagious than measles or influenza. It’s not an airborne virus. It’s transmitted through bodily fluids. The overwhelming majority of people who have been infected with Ebola are people who have directly cared for a person who is actively sick with the disease or have handled the body of someone who has died from it.

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In one laboratory experiment, scientists couldn’t recover Ebola virus that had contaminated a surface kept at room temperature. In another study, Ebola virus kept at cold temperature was recovered from plastic and glass surfaces after more than three weeks. But Peter Jahrling, director of the Integrated Research Facility of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases in Frederick, Md., doubts that in the real world the virus would survive nearly that long.

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Anyone dealing with the virus should be extremely careful, she said – because the consequences of a mistake are potentially so dire. “Because the outcome is so potentially dangerous – the case fatality is extremely high with this virus – you have to be extremely cautious. You need to take that extra step, because if you do have an exposure and if you are exposed to even a small quantity of the virus, the potential for a negative outcome is extremely high,” said Hensley.
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Can you catch Ebola from an infected blanket? (Original Post) uppityperson Oct 2014 OP
It sounds like you could in theory, but are unlikely to. Kalidurga Oct 2014 #1
Right. You have to weigh the unlikelihood of the infection against the devastating nature pnwmom Oct 2014 #2
Exactly. eom uppityperson Oct 2014 #4
I would say yes, if that blanket LuvNewcastle Oct 2014 #3
With zero snark or nastiness, is there a history to why this is posted? herding cats Oct 2014 #5
When he went to the hospital the second time, his relative took his blanket with her into the ER and LisaL Oct 2014 #6
Thank you. herding cats Oct 2014 #8
If you pull it off somebody who's bleeding out and chew on it Warpy Oct 2014 #7
While it's not a probable cause of transmission it is a "possible" one. herding cats Oct 2014 #11
What I want to know is... davidn3600 Oct 2014 #9
It depends on a number of factors. uppityperson Oct 2014 #14
Apparently, it's contagious enough that you can get it from... LostInAnomie Oct 2014 #10
Are you assuming MrDuncan carrying a woman with bodily fluids on her was his only exposure? uppityperson Oct 2014 #12
I'm saying if Duncan's story is true... LostInAnomie Oct 2014 #13
I thought I read that she was vomitting, had diarrhea. She died the next day I think, though I uppityperson Oct 2014 #15
She was also having generalized seizures, so we know there was urine... Barack_America Oct 2014 #19
Mr Duncan has no story herding cats Oct 2014 #16
But not contagious enough that you can be the cab driver... Barack_America Oct 2014 #17
Someone on here posted a link... LostInAnomie Oct 2014 #18
Probably a good rule of thumb. Barack_America Oct 2014 #20
that has been on my mind also! flobee1 Oct 2014 #21

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
1. It sounds like you could in theory, but are unlikely to.
Sat Oct 4, 2014, 12:24 AM
Oct 2014

I wouldn't suggest sharing blankets with an Ebola patient though.

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
2. Right. You have to weigh the unlikelihood of the infection against the devastating nature
Sat Oct 4, 2014, 12:36 AM
Oct 2014

of the illness -- and take strong precautions.

The common cold, for example, is far more contagious but far less likely to result in death.

LuvNewcastle

(16,845 posts)
3. I would say yes, if that blanket
Sat Oct 4, 2014, 12:47 AM
Oct 2014

was used by someone sick with the virus. Fluids from the infected person would probably soak into the blanket. I seriously doubt that you could be infected by a blanket that was merely stored in the same room as an Ebola patient, however. Nevertheless, I would keep materials for Ebola patients separate from those for others.

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
5. With zero snark or nastiness, is there a history to why this is posted?
Sat Oct 4, 2014, 01:20 AM
Oct 2014

I've read the link, as it's already grayed out for me, and I think it may be what I saw earlier when I was at dinner with a friend when they went to the restroom. Only it wasn't in this thread since the times don't work for that. I could well have read the link earlier for some other reason since I've been following this topic, though. However, I know I saw something related to this earlier here but I was busy and didn't follow up.

My question I think is if there's some controversy I'm not aware of on this topic. I'm aware that textiles can potentially harbor the virus, which is why they're supposed to be removed from the rooms of the patients per the CDC's guidelines. So, I'm not being a jerk here. I'm just curious as to what the confusion is on the matter. Did something happen I'm not aware of yet?

On edit: I found the post I'd seen earlier after replying to yours. I'm sorry if I sound painfully confused in your thread, it wasn't my intention even if it was in part the reality. I've read the other thread which I now realize is the one I saw earlier, and still don't understand what the contention is regarding this fact. If it weren't an issue why would the CDC recommend all textiles be removed from the rooms of infected persons before they were placed into them? SMH and still confused here.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
6. When he went to the hospital the second time, his relative took his blanket with her into the ER and
Sat Oct 4, 2014, 01:34 AM
Oct 2014

kept it next to her while sitting in the ER.

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
8. Thank you.
Sat Oct 4, 2014, 01:37 AM
Oct 2014

I'd not heard anything about that yet. I'm behind the curve this evening and trying to figure out what I've missed it seems. This explains why this is being discussed quite well.

My thanks for your reply.

On edit: It's usually the caregivers who come down with Ebola. My thoughts are with her.

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
11. While it's not a probable cause of transmission it is a "possible" one.
Sat Oct 4, 2014, 02:03 AM
Oct 2014

Do by any chance have the link to what started this discussion? I don't want to say anything which could be taken out of context and have no idea what the thought process here is at the moment.

I will say that textiles can potentially harbor this specific virus. Being cautious of the potential and using proper precautions and hygiene is recommended. If this was a caregiver we're speaking of here, then the blanket is an aside. Their real risk comes from caring for the sick person. Which by no means is to say they will become sick, just that their chances are much higher for being a caregiver to a person sick with Ebola. However, I'm unclear on the details and suspect I'm way off base on this one.

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
9. What I want to know is...
Sat Oct 4, 2014, 01:49 AM
Oct 2014

Say this scenario...
Someone infected with Ebola boards a plane. They then develop symptoms on the flight. They vomit and have diarrhea. In the lavatory. If someone on that plane goes into that lavatory afterwords, what's the chance of them being infected?

Dr. Bradley got infected even though he was taking all precautions. He still has no idea how he got it.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
14. It depends on a number of factors.
Sat Oct 4, 2014, 02:12 AM
Oct 2014

At what stage of the disease was the sick person because they get more contagious as the disease progresses?
Does the next person have and openings in theor skin, cuts, abrasions, etc because those would allow access to the virus?
Does the person wash their hands well, using a clean noncontaminated paper towel to shut off the water and open the door?

It would be nice to have exact answers to your questions, I agree. But unfortunately, it depends. However, it sounds like most of the cases result in people who are caregivers for the ill. They take care of those who are sick, contagious, dead. Then they get sick, and the next person takes care of them through death, repeat repeat repeat. Not all, but from what I have read, the great majority. Adding in the lack of adequate healthcare facilities, equipment, caregivers and the custom of hand washing, touching, patting the extremely contagious dead people.

The problem is not that it is so easy to catch, but that it is so deadly when caught. That is the ending of the article also, and why hazmat suits are worn.

LostInAnomie

(14,428 posts)
10. Apparently, it's contagious enough that you can get it from...
Sat Oct 4, 2014, 01:55 AM
Oct 2014

... helping a sick woman from a car to her home.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
12. Are you assuming MrDuncan carrying a woman with bodily fluids on her was his only exposure?
Sat Oct 4, 2014, 02:04 AM
Oct 2014

or are you pointing out that carrying someone who is very contagious is a way to become infected?

Or do you mean someone else?

I do not understnd who you mean. Thank you for clarifying.

LostInAnomie

(14,428 posts)
13. I'm saying if Duncan's story is true...
Sat Oct 4, 2014, 02:10 AM
Oct 2014

... that his contact with that woman was enough to infect him.

I don't know what bodily fluids she had on her. Sweat is most likely. If contact with a sweaty person is enough to infect you, that's pretty damn contagious to me.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
15. I thought I read that she was vomitting, had diarrhea. She died the next day I think, though I
Sat Oct 4, 2014, 02:15 AM
Oct 2014

would not swear to that without looking it up. But that is what I recall. And I do not know if he said he'd had other contact. I have read that people get more contagious the longer they are sick, with dead bodies being really contagious, so if it was right before she died, that makes sense.

The whole thing is awful, I feel so bad for all the people involved in W Africa, so scary, sad, awful.

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
19. She was also having generalized seizures, so we know there was urine...
Sat Oct 4, 2014, 02:22 AM
Oct 2014

...and our Mr. Duncan was carrying her legs.

By the by, the family told the cab driver that she was miscarrying, swearing that she did not have Ebola. I wonder what they told Mr. Duncan?

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
16. Mr Duncan has no story
Sat Oct 4, 2014, 02:18 AM
Oct 2014

He's said nothing that we know of as to his exposure to the virus. For all we know he was told the woman he handled was sick from pregnancy related issues the same as the taxi driver was.

He has no official statement that we've heard tell of so far. Let us not put words into his mouth until, and if, he can himself.

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
17. But not contagious enough that you can be the cab driver...
Sat Oct 4, 2014, 02:18 AM
Oct 2014

Sitting in the front seat, breathing the same air, but NEVER actually touching the patient, while you drive her to 4 hospitals and back home, and become infected. They interviewed the cab driver the other day, he's fine, the only one to not get Ebola out of the situation (day 20 after exposure, by my count), and the only one in the cab that had no direct contact.

LostInAnomie

(14,428 posts)
18. Someone on here posted a link...
Sat Oct 4, 2014, 02:22 AM
Oct 2014

... from the CDC earlier the said if you have spent time within three feet of someone infected, you should consider yourself exposed.

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
20. Probably a good rule of thumb.
Sat Oct 4, 2014, 02:28 AM
Oct 2014

But exposure never guarantees infection. It would have been enough to get the driver quarantined for observation here, but it ultimately wasn't enough to get him infected.

flobee1

(870 posts)
21. that has been on my mind also!
Sat Oct 4, 2014, 08:33 AM
Oct 2014

it may very well be hard to spread, but it seems to be spreading just fine in africa, and I have a hunch they are not purposely ingesting the virus.....

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