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http://readersupportednews.org/news-section2/318-66/26260-isis-using-american-made-ammunitionn independent arms monitoring group has collected evidence that fighters in the Middle Eastern extremist group known as the Islamic State, labeled a network of death by President Obama, are using weapons and ammunition manufactured in at least 21 different countries, including China, Russia, and the United States.
The groups report, released Oct. 6, indicates that the Islamic States relatively newly-formed force has had little difficulty tapping into the huge pool of armaments fueling the conflicts in Iraq and Syria, supplied not only by the worlds big powers but also by up-and-coming exporters such as Sudan.
Much of the Islamic State arms and ammunition were captured on the battlefield, but intelligence reports have suggested that the groups income from oil sales and other sources is high enough to finance purchases of additional weapons directly from the companies and dealers that routinely profit from strife in the Middle East.
Experts say the fact that the armaments have such disparate sources some were even made at a major U.S. munitions plant in Missouri provides a cautionary note as Washington prepares to undertake expanded shipments of military supplies, including small arms, to rebel groups in Syria and to a revived Iraqi Army force.
We faced an enormous [monitoring] challenge when we, in effect, owned Iraq and had many bases where we could do this type of training, said Joseph Christoff, who directed international affairs and trade issues at the U.S. Government Accountability Office between 2000 and 2011, when the GAO repeatedly identified shortcomings in controlling the use of U.S. weapons in Iraq and Afghanistan.
I dont know how were going to do it securely in this new program meant to arm Western-allied rebel forces in Syria, Christoff said
merrily
(45,251 posts)madokie
(51,076 posts)in my opinion that is.
I mean what the fuck. We've got a world thats gone mad and they just keep pumping in more ammunition to keep the carnage going. It's insane if you ask me.
I'm proud of the fact I own Zero guns and even less fucking bullets. I spent 15 months with a gun handy, either on my side or within reach and that was enough for me.
fxstc
(41 posts)the ammo already has the manufacturers headstamp, and we know isis has that ammo. we know W gave them the ammo. what would a tracking sheet do?
KG
(28,751 posts)liberal N proud
(60,334 posts)So we can create new enemies to fuel further wars and we can supply both sides of those wars as well.
When you have a military industrial complex as large as what we have in the United States, this is the necessary component to those business profit margin.
KurtNYC
(14,549 posts)be the model for the current ISIS thing. Iran had all the Shah's weapons and planes, mostly US-made so the war forced them to buy ammo and spare parts from us. We sold billions to Iraq also and the war remained an unwinnable stalemate for years, perhaps by design.
Oil out, weapons in, Cha-ching!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Iraq_War
Are_grits_groceries
(17,111 posts)We are the Johnny Appleseeds of mayhem worldwide. Others countries are too.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Or countries that let their weapons fall into the wrong hands.
The ammo? every 1,000 rounds, one should be a dud with a gps chip in it.
CaptainTruth
(6,591 posts)... trading. Twice. While we were at war in Iraq.
To summarize: Illegal arms (international blackmarket trading) were being supplied to the terrorists who were shooting at & killing US troops. The UN tried to launch programs to crack down on it, twice, & the Bush administration (with John Bolton as UN ambassador) blocked it, twice.
The Bush administration directly aided & abetted the enemy. By blocking the UN efforts they put more weapons into the hands of the terrorists who were killing our troops.
And these people walk free today ...
rickford66
(5,523 posts)The US has a huge investment in military hardware to protect our oil supplies and shipping routes. ISIS has no trouble protecting their oil interests with captured arms and smuggled ammunition? I guess we've wasted a lot of money on our military then.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)[font size3]The object of waging a war is always to be in a better position in which to wage another war.[/font size]
-1984, George Orwell
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)that we give our enemies a sporting chance by giving them lots of weapons to fight us with.